# Break the "don't touch me" vibe

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 8, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854 "2009-02-08T17:22:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![cygnus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cygnus/32/962_2.png) [@cygnus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cygnus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/1 "2009-02-08T17:22:09Z")

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I need an advice in how to break the “don’t touch me” vibe

For example, I have a 21yr female friend who is very extroverted, playful and talkative.. she occasionally shows some IOI’s.. but she have a very strong physical barrier which makes she feels uncomfortable.

In this case, she had a very positive response response from [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), but the “don’t touch me” (or “dont get too close”) vibe was still there.

any advice?

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/2 "2009-02-08T17:37:40Z")

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> [@cygnus](#):
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> I need an advice in how to break the “don’t touch me” vibe
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> For example, I have a 21yr female friend who is very extroverted, playful and talkative.. she occasionally shows some IOI’s.. but she have a very strong physical barrier which makes she feels uncomfortable.
> 
> In this case, she had a very positive response response from Ammo, but the “don’t touch me” (or “dont get too close”) vibe was still there.
> 
> any advice?

This is where _you have to put in your part, the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are already doing there part. Now you are the only one who can fix this. If you can’t, then maybe you will have to move on as she might be feeling uncomfortable for a reason._

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**Author:** ![cygnus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cygnus/32/962_2.png) [@cygnus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cygnus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/3 "2009-02-08T17:41:31Z")

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> [@mikotorocks714](#):
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> This is where _you have to put in your part, the pheromones are already doing there part. Now you are the only one who can fix this. If you can’t, then maybe you will have to move on as she might be feeling uncomfortable for a reason._

I understand… but she is naturally “UNtouchy-feely”. Not exclusively with me..

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/4 "2009-02-08T17:50:18Z")

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> [@cygnus](#):
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> I understand… but she is naturally “UNtouchy-feely”. Not exclusively with me..

Oh, I wasn’t saying just because of you. Perhaps she has deep personal issues that affect her wanting to get close to a guy, or be touchy feely. I suggest you REALLY talk to her as a good friend, and basically be honest and ask her that you notice that she seems to have this “barrier” around her. I think she may actually tell you a reason why, so add some IH and IO before asking her so she can be open to you verbally and honestly.

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**Author:** ![cygnus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cygnus/32/962_2.png) [@cygnus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cygnus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/5 "2009-02-08T17:55:07Z")

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> [@mikotorocks714](#):
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> Perhaps she has deep personal issues that affect her wanting to get close to a guy, or be touchy feely.

Exactly. Got the point.

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/6 "2009-02-08T18:04:56Z")

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Plus Instant Female magic!

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/7 "2009-02-08T18:16:03Z")

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Is she Aquarius? Those types are too often all talk and no action.

In any case, maybe she has high barriers? That can be an appropriate choice for a woman. You either overcome that with male strength of character or you find another TG. I recommend the latter course since there seems little sign you going to get anywhere as-is.

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**Author:** ![cygnus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cygnus/32/962_2.png) [@cygnus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cygnus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/8 "2009-02-08T18:17:18Z")

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I think arousal plus intimacy would be great in those cases.. what do you think 😕

By the way… Ammo+ Ifm = Arousal & intimacy?

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**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/9 "2009-02-08T18:24:22Z")

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Good combo, if you want to take things slow you could do 2x ifm and 1 shot ammo. That would be good because she’d feel really safe and secure around you but you wouldn’t lose all sexual presence. Then next time around you could switch the ammo for tuth or apply 2 shots of ammo instead of 1.

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**Author:** ![cygnus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cygnus/32/962_2.png) [@cygnus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cygnus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/10 "2009-02-08T18:31:12Z")

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> [@Whitehall](#):
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> Is she Aquarius? Those types are too often all talk and no action.

Taurus. But she really acts like you said: Talks a lot, but run away when the subject is ‘action’.  
Moving on has always been an option, but is hard do it cos she ocasionally show some IoI’s… 🙄

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**Author:** ![d23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/d23/32/1465_2.png) [@d23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/d23)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/11 "2009-02-08T18:34:17Z")

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> [@Whitehall](#):
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> Is she Aquarius? Those types are too often all talk and no action.

My ex was an Aquarius and she was all action and very little talk.

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/12 "2009-02-08T18:49:33Z")

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My experience is lots of wasted time but that’s with slightly older women. Some Aquarians are wild I’m told but I’ve yet to meet one.

Lucky you!

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**Author:** ![cygnus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cygnus/32/962_2.png) [@cygnus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cygnus)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/13 "2009-02-08T19:32:18Z")

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hey folks. i’ve been serching the forum and I found some nice reports about p83…  
what about p83 + ammo or tuth?

Look what i’ve found\>\>

> [@Hello from Atlanta](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-atlanta/22915/6):
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> I’ve been researching all of the pheros and I think I’m going to use it towards p83. I love the touchy-feely, loss of inhibitions affect people say it has…

> [@Hello from Atlanta](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-atlanta/22915/7):
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> Shy girls will react different, they may flirt more and be more expressive but shyness still holds them back some. Outgoing girls will be more blatant they bump you, rub up against you, display more, act more seductively.

\>Source ([Hello from Atlanta](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-from-atlanta/22915))

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/14 "2009-02-08T20:28:32Z")

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If I was you I’d stick with the ammo and add a whole load of TAA or Insatnt Shine on top. With this mix, Personal space = zero.

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**Author:** ![d23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/d23/32/1465_2.png) [@d23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/d23)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/15 "2009-02-09T21:28:19Z")

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> [@Whitehall](#):
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> My experience is lots of wasted time but that’s with slightly older women. Some Aquarians are wild I’m told but I’ve yet to meet one.
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> Lucky you!

not lucky she was a complete nutter!!!

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/16 "2009-02-09T21:42:51Z")

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> [@d23](#):
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> not lucky she was a complete nutter!!!

I’m guessing “nutter” means something altogether different in the mother country, but in the states “she’s a nutter” means she is a good lay.

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**Author:** ![d23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/d23/32/1465_2.png) [@d23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/d23)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/17 "2009-02-09T21:44:10Z")

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uh she was alright, but she was a crazy lady absolutely insane woman!!!

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**Author:** ![robert1940](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@robert1940](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/robert1940)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/18 "2009-02-09T21:47:40Z")

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My personal experience while trying to seduce a beatuful taurus:

Throw the bate.They are slow to get it put once they get it they beome like bugs.

I would take her out for dinner.60$ per person at least restaurant.  
Some soft music after .Not rock,not pop.

Wine .

Kissing in the neck.

Be a gentleman.Do not rush .

I would put Instant gentleman,with some ammo and IFM.

FOr 1- times .

Then IFM,ammo or tuth (1-2 sprays)

If she smokes put one more spray to be sure.

Then start adding honesty and openess on your tummy near your genitals.

When you talk ,stare at her neck and boobs.

Point your hand when referring to you to your genitals.

They are pretty slow but as I told you when they get the message they usually do the move ..

Good luck

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**Author:** ![sax\_for\_money](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/0ea827/32.png) [@sax\_for\_money](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sax_for_money)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/19 "2009-02-09T21:56:31Z")

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> [@robert1940](#):
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> My personal experience while trying to seduce a beatuful taurus:
> 
> Throw the bate.They are slow to get it put once they get it they beome like bugs.
> 
> I would take her out for dinner.60$ per person at least restaurant.  
> Some soft music after .Not rock,not pop.
> 
> Wine .
> 
> Kissing in the neck.
> 
> Be a gentleman.Do not rush .
> 
> I would put Instant gentleman,with some ammo and IFM.
> 
> FOr 1- times .
> 
> Then IFM,ammo or tuth (1-2 sprays)
> 
> If she smokes put one more spray to be sure.
> 
> Then start adding honesty and openess on your tummy near your genitals.
> 
> When you talk ,stare at her neck and boobs.
> 
> Point your hand when referring to you to your genitals.
> 
> They are pretty slow but as I told you when they get the message they usually do the move ..
> 
> Good luck

i dont know i may be old fashioned but if you cant get her to move into the “action” phase why try and use chemicals to get that from her.  
stick to what you think works for you as far as pheros and try getting to the bottom of it with conversation. if you think its pheros that got you where you are currently let it be you and your conversation that brings it home.

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/20 "2009-02-09T22:02:57Z")

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When I read “nutter” I see that as a nut case, wacko, strange in the head.

Nutter - that’s my general notion of Acquarians!

Never heard of Gegogi’s explanation but then we move in different circles and often have differring perspectives.

As to Taurus - some of best lays there are, especially if you like 'em plumb and soft. Get ready for some serious digging! But then, I’m also an Earth sign (Capricorn.) The throat is a definite erogenous zone for most of them. Hint -ask her to sing for you.

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