# Break the "don't touch me" vibe

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 8, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854 "2009-02-08T17:22:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/21 "2009-02-09T23:12:01Z")

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If we’ve gone for the astrological aspect, let’s consider that the sun sign is next to worthless for understanding a person as a whole. It will give you about 5% of the personality by itself. That said, Taurus is a very slow moving and sensual sign. If she’s hesitant to be touchy feely it could be an ASD because Taurus women know they have a weakness for the right touch from a man they find attractive.

Taurus women tend to prefer stronger androstenone, but if you want to “sooth the savage beast”, go low on the androstenone and high on the comfort and socials.

1-2 sprays of ammo, 2-3 sprays of IFM, 2-3 sprays of IS, equal sprays of both IO and IH (2 each oughta do it) and maybe some meo-est, based on what I have seen it do.

Other things you can do to get a Taurus girl in the mood are to use body language to “speak your mind” - slow, sensual movements that are sexy… lazy, bedroom eyes that linger… a low, soft, almost breathy, seductive voice, a massage, brushing her hair (depending on age). She’ll appreciate being cooked for, especially if it is good food. As a secondary, taking her to a restaurant where the lights are low and you can have a cozy conversation in your seductive voice with eye contact works well too. But don’t go about it in a way that doesn’t make sense for the situation, because this can easily turn ridiculous if not done in appropriate location or circumstance.

Liquid Trust might be another you could try. Couple sprays of that might help, but it also might put her to sleep or send her to the bathroom every few minutes.

Whatever you do… DO NOT push this woman in ANY way. Pushing will almost ALWAYS be met with immovable (and likely permanent) resistance. Instead, make her want to share in your desired outcome, and motivate her to meet you half way.

The key is to overcome her resistance by gaining her **trust** and letting her move at her own pace and in her own way. These women typically have Mercury in Taurus also, which makes them slow to form opinions and even slower to change them, somewhat rigid in their thinking and beliefs, and very practical. They are seeking long term security, usually concerning finances and material goods, and if you can provide for that desire for security, you get brownie points. Security is important for Taurus.

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**Author:** ![MaChMa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@MaChMa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MaChMa)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/22 "2009-02-09T23:17:35Z")

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Damn, sounds like the exact same situation I am in. I will catch most girls in my school eyeing me, well the ones that I want to notice anyway. And because I am a Senior (mr big dog on campus) and a well built, mature looking guy, most are way to intimidated to talk to me. I have been trying to get this certain girl for a while now, and I have to tell you its like trying to break a rock.  
Ive had some of my friends tell me they have tried, but this girl just wont even as go as far to talk to guys. I was doing well until recently, I dont know, she just seems uninterested now. So now Im going to go from instant shine to instant honesty since IFM is out of stock for a while. Hopefully, I can get her to talk about things a little more.

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**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/23 "2009-02-09T23:32:13Z")

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“These women typically have Mercury in Taurus”

That does not compute. How do get from statements about Taurus females to very specific and highly variable chart details?

I will agree that you don’t want to push or anger a Taurus - I still have the emotional scars from one!

BTW, I have a theory about sun signs and personality development. Perhaps I’ll post a long write-up in “Lounge” later this week. It correlates pre-natal development and maternal seasonal sunlight exposure. At least in the Northern Hemisphere.

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**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/24 "2009-02-09T23:34:50Z")

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lots of alcohol 😃

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**Author:** ![dhh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/258eb7/32.png) [@dhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dhh)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/25 "2009-02-10T00:21:47Z")

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Get her used to your touch. go kino with some friendly touching. bait her and get her to qualify herself to you and reward her with an ioi. then pull away. set the frame that she is chasing you. be careful to not fall into the friend zone. its a killer

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if all else fails, go the “loads of alcohol” route

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/26 "2009-02-10T00:24:46Z")

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> [@Whitehall](#):
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> “These women typically have Mercury in Taurus”
> 
> That does not compute. How do get from statements about Taurus females to very specific and highly variable chart details?
> 
> I will agree that you don’t want to push or anger a Taurus - I still have the emotional scars from one!
> 
> BTW, I have a theory about sun signs and personality development. Perhaps I’ll post a long write-up in “Lounge” later this week. It correlates pre-natal development and maternal seasonal sunlight exposure. At least in the Northern Hemisphere.

Traditional astrology is still the most commonly used, and is always geocentric. Heliocentric calculations also work, but geocentric is most commonly used. In a geocentric solar system, Venus and Mercury never stray very far from the Sun. The result is that Mercury will be located in the same sign as the Sun in about 80% of charts, and in the sign before or after in the rest. It is therefore a pretty good bet that when the woman’s sun is in Taurus, her Mercury is also - at least in a geocentric chart. I think it’s a maximum of 28 degrees that Mercury can be found from the location of the Sun in these cases.

Your theory sounds interesting. 🙂

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**Author:** ![cygnus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cygnus/32/962_2.png) [@cygnus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cygnus)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/27 "2009-02-10T02:00:44Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> The key is to overcome her resistance by gaining her **trust** and letting her move at her own pace and in her own way. These women typically have Mercury in Taurus also, which makes them slow to form opinions and even slower to change them, somewhat rigid in their thinking and beliefs, and very practical. They are seeking long term security, usually concerning finances and material goods, and if you can provide for that desire for security, you get brownie points. Security is important for Taurus.

Catlord, it seems you know lot about taurus.. You gave a very accurate description of her personality!  
I have lots of interest in learning how to seduce a taurus woman, but they tends to be a little hard for me..

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/28 "2009-02-10T03:25:00Z")

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> [@cygnus](#):
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> Catlord, it seems you know lot about taurus.. You gave a very accurate description of her personality!  
> I have lots of interest in learning how to seduce a taurus woman, but they tends to be a little hard for me..

Shy of looking at the rest of her chart, there’s not much more I can say - and I’d rather not start doing synastric astrology for everyone. lol

Taurus women are best dealt with in the understanding that they require independence, patience, and strength from the man. They are VERY strong women, and a woman typically wants a man at least as strong as she herself is. You can’t push, you can’t force - Taurus is the strongest of all the signs. They’re damned near unbreakable in most cases when it comes to “making” them do anything.

So… as I said before… instead of the direct route… do what it takes to get her to want to do what you want her to do, and then meet her half way. 🙂 Since Taurus is so sensual and can be hedonistic, these are good ways to go about your goal… but her trust is the most valuable thing you could ever get from her. Shy of her love, of course. Make that a priority.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/29 "2009-02-10T03:40:45Z")

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I ought to ask Cat and Whitehall about Saggitarian women … lol.

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**Author:** ![dirusrules](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dirusrules/32/1966_2.png) [@dirusrules](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dirusrules)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/30 "2009-02-16T05:02:31Z")

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anyone wanna help a brother out and fill me in on a virgo… a smokin hott virgo 😃

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/break-the-dont-touch-me-vibe/25854/31 "2009-02-16T05:48:17Z")

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> [@cygnus](#):
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> I need an advice in how to break the “don’t touch me” vibe
> 
> For example, I have a 21yr female friend who is very extroverted, playful and talkative.. she occasionally shows some IOI’s.. but she have a very strong physical barrier which makes she feels uncomfortable.
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> In this case, she had a very positive response response from Ammo, but the “don’t touch me” (or “dont get too close”) vibe was still there.
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> any advice?

If you’re getting a positive response, man up and burst through the barrier.

At worst, she’ll slap you in the face and be secretly proud of her attractiveness. At best, you’ll see the barrier melt away and be in for an incredible time.

Even in the “slap in the face” scenario, that can be a prelude to passion. Even after the slap, let her have no doubt that you’re interested.

Whatta you wanta be, friends?

Pardon my lack of political correctness.

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