# Breaking the friend zone with pheromones: a user guide attempt from Serbia

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [April 17, 2013, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/breaking-the-friend-zone-with-pheromones-a-user-guide-attempt-from-serbia/58768 "2013-04-17T02:21:50Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 18, 2013, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/breaking-the-friend-zone-with-pheromones-a-user-guide-attempt-from-serbia/58768/9 "2013-04-18T05:57:54Z")

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> [@Miss\_Dragon](#):
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> You said that p75 counters the effects of none? In what way? Might this be a key to women using A314?

I did. Let me be more specific. P75 makes me a bit grumpy. I speculate the effects on other men are like a bad case of stage fright. -eNone can make men combative for sexual dominance, so much so that Evolver got on the wrong end of some unfortunate male violence and swore off NONE. As a man who has seen **serious** violence in Florida bars (shootings, stabbings not uncommon), I take this seriously. Men using 75 tends to diffuse or eliminate the aggression in men that NONE can bring. Take a look at the AD store entry on IJ – you can see that high NONE can have big effects on men and women. Not all are positive. At the same time, 75 lacks sexuality per se, and thinking of it as a NONE substitute, I think, is misguided. NONE and 75 compliment each other perfectly.

A limited number of women have tried 75. Still more have tried NONE.

> [@P75....on females.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-on-females/30815):
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> I need to know if there are any women here who have tried [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) and if they got the effects like “I don’t need anyone”. I’ve found a few, but was wondering if anyone else had any reports. It’s really hard for me to comb through journals confused Also, I’ve read that it should be used at a low dosage. Has anyone used it at a high dosage with good effects? Apparently it makes people disrespect you at high dosages. Is this true? Thanks

But the older reports you see may have to do with samples being given out. I kinda doubt women are rushing to buy P80 and 75. However, that’s not always a good thing. There’s a need always for new female RU users who will test all these myriad mones, even if the effects turn out lowsy. I’d truly hate to see the women’s journals become stuck in 2010, but it seems that way at times.

I wouldn’t expect either to be good for attraction with men **when women wear it**. It could be good for self effects. If you wish to experiment, I’d dilute your 75 and ExperiMone -eNone to .5 or .25 mcg per spray. You will probably find a dose at which either makes you uncomfortable. I find that TAC is uniquely an antidote or remedy for some of the cranky attitude I get with 75. You may find that you can counteract the bad effects of NONE or 75 with TAC and keep the good ones. I would consider these two on women experimental, much like TAL or TAH on a guy. Some like them, some will not. However, if we are to have more adventures and discoveries with mones (and not be stuck in limbo or in the past), my opinion is that we must take chances. So, if you want to take a few, go for it.

I would have totally never figured I could wear 10 mcg of NONE without smelling like a cat box, but I can. I’d love to see you test P80, P79, 75 and NONE. The women’s section could do with more of it, I think. Could you blend .5 micro gram of 75 and -eNone with, say, 20 mcg or more of [Molecule C](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/)? Yes, I think you could. I’ve never actually **found** a report of a woman doing this, so maybe you can be the pioneer. I’d no sooner tell you you can’t or shouldn’t than tell a man not to wear 50 mcg of 75. Good luck.

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