# Broke the MX297 barrier **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 14, 2010, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802 "2010-08-14T08:09:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/1 "2010-08-14T08:09:22Z")
**A314 x3, P93 15 mcg, P83 30 mcg, P75 5 mcg, AMMO x1, P79 15 mcg, IH4x x1** Venue was outdoors. **Temps:** Low 70’s low humidity. It wouldn’t be testing unless I got some input from reading other users’ experiences. I’m going to give you a little background so that everything can be read from my perspective. Steve had a report on [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) with having P90-91 qualities that had a beta effect on him. Although I had amazing results with MX297, I’ve never escalated to the point of close physical contact. I’ve had Kino and massive flirting but nothing that’s gone any further. Nothing ever came out of the results as in closer physical contact. We’ll say the barrier is a kiss. I always thought it was my game that it never led up to that level and it was my own fault for not following through. I looked at it more and more and decided to try a different avenue tonight. I love love love A314 so I was going to use that as my base mix. I love AMMO and I almost always combine A314, AMMO and IS together. But since tonight I got a fresh cut, looked good, nice and clean cut I decided to skip the IS and go for the IH, I was meeting new girls I haven’t met before. The only thing missing from the mixes were the P79, 83, 93, 75. I applied the same dosage as I did with the MX297. At the beggining of the night I thought, crap, there has to be something in the MX297 that’s making this mix work, I can’t seem to find it right now. Still I was outgoing and having fun so it was no big deal. Even one of my guy friends told me, “damn you’re around a lot, everytime I see you you’re talking to someone new, you’re like Mr. Popular over here”. I always am friendly and talk to everyone I know because that’s who I am. I genuinely enjoy seeing people I know and interacting with them. I really didn’t see much of attraction based hits. I noticed girls I was talking to kept playing with their hair and fidgety but I didn’t think much of it at the time. I guess at that time I relegated to myself that this mix was a bust and MX297 has something else in it that was making it work better for me. I was walking around after grabbing a drink and I saw one of my friends, of course I decided to say hi and talk. She introduced me to this girl and we started talking, got to know each other, I built rapport really quick. I was stunned at how pretty her face was, and I’m always a sucker for light colored eyes so I was just like a kid in a candy store. Now here comes the kicker, no nervousness, no hesitations. I was confident as fuck. Now typically, I would babble, comply with her, do the normal beta stuff when I see a girl that’s really my type. But tonight, nope, I just kept going and initiated physical contact quick. I believe like the other posts and other users have noticed about A314 was that their perception was better at reading women’s and other people’s reactions and it was an enhancer in that respect. I noticed pretty quickly she had an interest. I must have had the balls of an elephant tonight because once Kino escalation started, that was that. Now I realized I was getting tested a little bit, but it seemed from the get go, I had the power and control of the interaction from the beginning. This was weird to me cause usually I get shit tested a lot. Maybe this girl was from out of town that’s why I didn’t get it as much. I kept getting the eye contact that’s just like “make a move, stupid”. I went in a couple of times and she still kept playing hard to get. Now I’m not a PUA or a master at these things but I handled it pretty well. I knew it wasn’t the ok, that’s weird wtf, because she kept hugging me and bringing me in close. Now she’s only known me for a couple of hours and I understand the hesitation, everyone was there so it wasn’t as private. I got a little kiss but that’s just quick for me, it might not be for some of our veterans here, but that’s probably the fastest I’ve ever made a move that quick. She’s gonna end up coming tomorrow night to another event we had and she was teasing me about how much fun it’ll be tomorrow. I made jokes here and there about she’s gonna have to catch up, I have a lot of fun, and I kept it light. I can’t remember the exact conversation, but I know I’m going to have some fun tomorrow night. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not that type to hit it and quit, but when fun comes around and it’s mutual, I’m down for it. And I can see maybe how this might have a fallout effect, but not as serious, if you get what I mean. \*\*Technicals: A314:\*\* Hands down why I love this for work, for social, over and over again, it’s the reliable one that you can always trust to get you through. The confidence and high status it gives you is just amazing. You cannot beat the alpha qualities it gives you and the confidence. **IH:** It definitely, as always, helped me get the deeper parts of the conversation in. **P83:** Obviously the dis inhibitor. Love this stuff. Still not sure on the P93, P79. **P75:** The longer the effect, the closer you get. I had her really just initiating physical contact with me, the longer the exposure, the better it is. I think this definitely has the bonding effect physically, IH just brings the entire package together. Whew. Time for bed. ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 4:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/2 "2010-08-14T16:11:37Z")
sounded like you were super confident… it was you that made that kino escalation and kiss close.. not the moness.. great job and great report! ---
**Author:** ![HellzDuDe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hellzdude/32/359_2.png) [@HellzDuDe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HellzDuDe)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/3 "2010-08-14T16:41:10Z")
Good moves there mustang, Knock em dead! I’ve been wanting to get some A314, But it is a bit pricey, understandable that it pays for itself. but I’m still inching into this. Not like I need help getting the alpha personality, Because its there for sure. But I tend to back off in women oriented situations. Defense mechanism I suppose. But it sounds like A314 really helps through that from what I have been reading. Very interesting report, would love to hear more. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/4 "2010-08-14T16:43:42Z")
> [@HellzDuDe](#): > > Good moves there mustang, Knock em dead! I’ve been wanting to get some A314, But it is a bit pricey, understandable that it pays for itself. but I’m still inching into this. Not like I need help getting the alpha personality, Because its there for sure. But I tend to back off in women oriented situations. Defense mechanism I suppose. But it sounds like A314 really helps through that from what I have been reading. Very interesting report, would love to hear more. A314 does, what do you mean by defense mechanisms. Maybe we can take a look at it and see what’s up. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/5 "2010-08-15T04:23:51Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > **A314 x3, P93 15 mcg, P83 30 mcg, P75 5 mcg, AMMO x1, P79 15 mcg, IH4x x1** > > Venue was outdoors. > > **Temps:** Low 70’s low humidity. > > It wouldn’t be testing unless I got some input from reading other users’ experiences. I’m going to give you a little background so that everything can be read from my perspective. > > Steve had a report on MX297 with having P90-91 qualities that had a beta effect on him. Although I had amazing results with MX297, I’ve never escalated to the point of close physical contact. I’ve had Kino and massive flirting but nothing that’s gone any further. Nothing ever came out of the results as in closer physical contact. We’ll say the barrier is a kiss. > > I always thought it was my game that it never led up to that level and it was my own fault for not following through. I looked at it more and more and decided to try a different avenue tonight. > > I love love love A314 so I was going to use that as my base mix. I love AMMO and I almost always combine A314, AMMO and IS together. But since tonight I got a fresh cut, looked good, nice and clean cut I decided to skip the IS and go for the IH, I was meeting new girls I haven’t met before. The only thing missing from the mixes were the P79, 83, 93, 75. I applied the same dosage as I did with the MX297. > > At the beggining of the night I thought, crap, there has to be something in the MX297 that’s making this mix work, I can’t seem to find it right now. Still I was outgoing and having fun so it was no big deal. Even one of my guy friends told me, “damn you’re around a lot, everytime I see you you’re talking to someone new, you’re like Mr. Popular over here”. I always am friendly and talk to everyone I know because that’s who I am. I genuinely enjoy seeing people I know and interacting with them. I really didn’t see much of attraction based hits. I noticed girls I was talking to kept playing with their hair and fidgety but I didn’t think much of it at the time. I guess at that time I relegated to myself that this mix was a bust and MX297 has something else in it that was making it work better for me. > > I was walking around after grabbing a drink and I saw one of my friends, of course I decided to say hi and talk. She introduced me to this girl and we started talking, got to know each other, I built rapport really quick. I was stunned at how pretty her face was, and I’m always a sucker for light colored eyes so I was just like a kid in a candy store. > > Now here comes the kicker, no nervousness, no hesitations. I was confident as fuck. Now typically, I would babble, comply with her, do the normal beta stuff when I see a girl that’s really my type. But tonight, nope, I just kept going and initiated physical contact quick. I believe like the other posts and other users have noticed about A314 was that their perception was better at reading women’s and other people’s reactions and it was an enhancer in that respect. I noticed pretty quickly she had an interest. I must have had the balls of an elephant tonight because once Kino escalation started, that was that. Now I realized I was getting tested a little bit, but it seemed from the get go, I had the power and control of the interaction from the beginning. This was weird to me cause usually I get shit tested a lot. Maybe this girl was from out of town that’s why I didn’t get it as much. I kept getting the eye contact that’s just like “make a move, stupid”. I went in a couple of times and she still kept playing hard to get. Now I’m not a PUA or a master at these things but I handled it pretty well. I knew it wasn’t the ok, that’s weird wtf, because she kept hugging me and bringing me in close. Now she’s only known me for a couple of hours and I understand the hesitation, everyone was there so it wasn’t as private. I got a little kiss but that’s just quick for me, it might not be for some of our veterans here, but that’s probably the fastest I’ve ever made a move that quick. > > She’s gonna end up coming tomorrow night to another event we had and she was teasing me about how much fun it’ll be tomorrow. I made jokes here and there about she’s gonna have to catch up, I have a lot of fun, and I kept it light. I can’t remember the exact conversation, but I know I’m going to have some fun tomorrow night. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not that type to hit it and quit, but when fun comes around and it’s mutual, I’m down for it. And I can see maybe how this might have a fallout effect, but not as serious, if you get what I mean. > > \*\*Technicals: > > A314:\*\* Hands down why I love this for work, for social, over and over again, it’s the reliable one that you can always trust to get you through. The confidence and high status it gives you is just amazing. You cannot beat the alpha qualities it gives you and the confidence. > > **IH:** It definitely, as always, helped me get the deeper parts of the conversation in. > > **P83:** Obviously the dis inhibitor. Love this stuff. > > Still not sure on the P93, P79. > > **P75:** The longer the effect, the closer you get. I had her really just initiating physical contact with me, the longer the exposure, the better it is. I think this definitely has the bonding effect physically, IH just brings the entire package together. > > Whew. Time for bed. Wait are you saying you don’t like [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/)? That it gives you beta qualities too? ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/6 "2010-08-15T04:58:36Z")
Great report. I have some 297 coming in on the next shipment, will take into consideration the things you have pointed out. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/7 "2010-08-15T17:40:20Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > Wait are you saying you don’t like MX297? That it gives you beta qualities too? I’m have a test planned over the next month or so. I’m going to go with mixes of A314 and MX297 with: P83, IH, P75 I will compare results. Happy if you saw the hottie I got with this. You would be like holy shit. I don’t know if MX297 worked but I gotta compare notes when I do try this out. But first things first I have to order more MX297. Essentially there have been about 3 girls exposed to the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) signature and I’ve established baselines for them. I might just have to reverse the mix in order to try that out. As for the beta qualities, I’m not too sure about it. I’m still a newbie at this and perception is the key to recognizing these things and I haven’t fully honed my senses towards it. Unfortunately I was happy enough that I got results from MX297 just like everyone else had that I didn’t notice the beta effect that Steve had mentioned. I was going to compare what the two were doing to me by subbing the A314 in but my tests haven’t conclusively validated that, for me, yet. Last night she was there again. I got hammered so I can’t really remember much. But it was the same as the other night. I know she wants me and I could have gone further but the people she was there wanted to leave, and she really didn’t have a choice in the matter because she’s from out of town so it put her in a bind. The texts I got the other night did confirm my thoughts on this mix. I"m leaning more now towards the P83 with having the greatest effect. I might have to take that out of the mixes to see if that’s what is really driving it. I can’t detail more about this but when I test there is another person that does it that really doesn’t post in the forum because of privacy reasons. We tried the MX297 mix with it, but like you happy, used A314 along with it. Had the same putative mix as I did and tried it out. Sorry I can’t give a lot of details but when you bed a shy, reserved, always proper girl, then it had to be a pheromone enhancement. When I say this is totally out of left field and we were both shocked at what happened, this couldn’t have proved more that they work more than now. > [@thegentleman](#): > > Great report. I have some 297 coming in on the next shipment, will take into consideration the things you have pointed out. It’s just something to be watchful of, I remember you said you had some issues with your co worker giving you crap. I’d be interested to hear how the situation changes with it. ---
**Author:** ![HellzDuDe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hellzdude/32/359_2.png) [@HellzDuDe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HellzDuDe)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/8 "2010-08-15T22:39:13Z")
By defense mechanisms I guess what I mean is that I’m afraid of rejection. Just a blow to your self esteem ya know? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/9 "2010-08-15T22:53:11Z")
> [@HellzDuDe](#): > > By defense mechanisms I guess what I mean is that I’m afraid of rejection. Just a blow to your self esteem ya know? We all have that. But let me ask you. Are you attracted to every woman you meet or find them desireable? ---
**Author:** ![HellzDuDe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hellzdude/32/359_2.png) [@HellzDuDe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HellzDuDe)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/10 "2010-08-15T23:03:04Z")
Mostly women who are average to fit, who obviously know how to take care of thier bodies. Cute face etc.. Not barbie but overall know how to take care of themselves. Dont really care for heavier set women. tried a few of those out once upon a time. Wasnt my cup of tea. but for some reason thats what I ultimatly attract. I guess I am picky to an extent, So no I wouldnt say I’m attracted to every woman I come across, or find them desireable ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/11 "2010-08-15T23:22:33Z")
Then that’s how some women perceive you, just not their type, you can’t attract everyone. You might as well go for every shot you can take and let things happen the way they come. You just never know. ---
**Author:** ![HellzDuDe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hellzdude/32/359_2.png) [@HellzDuDe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HellzDuDe)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/12 "2010-08-15T23:31:45Z")
Very true. This is why I started getting into [pheromones](https://a314.com/) though, maybe give me the little edge I need to move into a wider variety of women. Usually its either fat chicks or total nutcases ---
**Author:** ![hoplessly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoplessly/32/2319_2.png) [@hoplessly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoplessly)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/13 "2010-08-16T04:21:00Z")
> [@HellzDuDe](#): > > Very true. This is why I started getting into pheromones though, maybe give me the little edge I need to move into a wider variety of women. Usually its either fat chicks or total nutcases how much wider can you get than a fat chick? I agree with you about wanting a more “normal” girl. Someone who doesn’t have a ton of emotional baggage. ---
**Author:** ![HellzDuDe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hellzdude/32/359_2.png) [@HellzDuDe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HellzDuDe)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/14 "2010-08-16T05:20:24Z")
ROFL! I know right? But seriously, I dont enjoy the cushion. Generally speaking )Not always the case) how the woman takes care of her body is how she takes care of her family and home. So yea.. thats my theory behind it anyway. May sound shallow, But I found it to be true most of the time ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2010, 5:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/broke-the-mx297-barrier/40802/15 "2010-08-16T05:24:53Z")
> [@HellzDuDe](#): > > ROFL! I know right? But seriously, I dont enjoy the cushion. Generally speaking )Not always the case) how the woman takes care of her body is how she takes care of her family and home. So yea.. thats my theory behind it anyway. May sound shallow, But I found it to be true most of the time I want someone who takes care of themselves, period. I’m not like picky when it comes down to it, but if you’re bordering on that level. No way.