# Builtup - How many days after using None do you need to get the same good results? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 18, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005 "2011-07-18T16:35:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/1 "2011-07-18T16:35:28Z")
The days I have detailed analyzed my [pheromone](https://a314.com/)-diary (which I lead since 2003) and came to the conclusion that ever if I have used None the day after I have already None, It has worked only faint or nothing. Even two days later the effects were not as good as when using it the first time after a long periode (for example one week). How is it with you…? How many days after using None do you need to get the same good results with None-products? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/2 "2011-07-19T16:36:59Z")
Interesting. Not looking to insult you in any way, but how are you washing the application areas? I can wear none every day of the week with great results. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/3 "2011-07-19T16:48:38Z")
I scrub pretty thoroughly when I shower and in hotter weather I shower twice a day, I honestly have never experienced None buildup at all, and I’ve done stretches of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) and project UF for several days at a time. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/4 "2011-07-24T13:16:02Z")
Is none really that hard to wash off? This friday I went straight from the work shop to the bar, still in my work gear. I only took my shirt off and washed myself a little in the bathroom before I left. I applied a couple of sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) though I had already been wearing some during the day. The effects were what I expect from Ammo. I met some friends and some women and nobody seemed to take offense to smell or anything. I only had one beer and then went home, took a shower and then put on a real phero bomb before I went out again a few hours later. I wore none again and the mix worked perfectly. In fact I had more hits than I’ve had in quite a while. So I’d say you can wear none every day. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/5 "2011-07-27T18:42:23Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > Is none really that hard to wash off? This friday I went straight from the work shop to the bar, still in my work gear. I only took my shirt off and washed myself a little in the bathroom before I left. I applied a couple of sprays of Ammo though I had already been wearing some during the day. > > The effects were what I expect from Ammo. I met some friends and some women and nobody seemed to take offense to smell or anything. > > I only had one beer and then went home, took a shower and then put on a real phero bomb before I went out again a few hours later. I wore none again and the mix worked perfectly. In fact I had more hits than I’ve had in quite a while. > > So I’d say you can wear none every day. Some people have poor washing and hygiene habits. That’s not to say the OP does, but only that some people do. While androsteNONE is a heavy molecule (molecular weight wise) it has issues getting off the skin. There for we call it sticky or heavy. You need a very good type of diffusion to get it airborne. With basic soap and water it is not an issue of removing it. I believe some people read something by someone and all of a sudden that becomes some type of law. I’ve heard, seen and read of people using solvents and witch hazel to remove mones. Personally this is silly. AndrosteNONE lasts long because of its molecular weight causes it to lay on the skin longer. TAA is probably the lightest molecule and therefore dissipates much quicker. With either of them, you still need soap and water to wash them off you. Most weeks when I shower I only use soap 4 out of 7 days. The other days I just give myself a good rinse. I still have never had a buildup effect with mones. Its a good way for me to also replenish my sebum’s natural oils and [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) working too. ---
**Author:** ![kevindill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kevindill/32/1429_2.png) [@kevindill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kevindill)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/6 "2011-07-27T19:31:22Z")
I have used a none heavy mix several days in a row. In general I find that it gets better results after the target is exposed for a couple of days. ---
**Author:** ![Pandakun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pandakun/32/953_2.png) [@Pandakun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pandakun)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/7 "2011-07-27T20:07:50Z")
> [@kevindill](#): > > I have used a none heavy mix several days in a row. In general I find that it gets better results after the target is exposed for a couple of days. This is True… If You are Congruent with the Mix your Targets Will Start to Show Stronger Effects over Several Exposures… They Become Used to the MIX as Being a Part of You… This Effect was Insane with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)… It Is Noticeable with All Products and Mixes Though… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/8 "2011-08-04T05:38:17Z")
I have to agree with Steve, people misunderstand the whole build up thing. You dont really need witch hazel or any other astringent to get mones off you just need some soap and water. Build up only occurs after **prolonged use** and usually only occurs for those who dont take daily showers. I know most of us do take daily showers but lots of people dont. If your hairy you may experience more buildup as well. Hair tends to absorb some of the molecules and hold onto a little of them. Clothes tend to get build up before people do. Some people dont wash there clothes after each use. The suggestion of witch hazel was just for those occasions when someone felt they may be experiencing build up or have not been able to hit the showers, to help clear the slate so you could reapply Tisha ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/9 "2011-08-06T15:10:56Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I have to agree with Steve, people misunderstand the whole build up thing. You dont really need witch hazel or any other astringent to get mones off you just need some soap and water. Build up only occurs after **prolonged use** and usually only occurs for those who dont take daily showers. I know most of us do take daily showers but lots of people dont. > > If your hairy you may experience more buildup as well. Hair tends to absorb some of the molecules and hold onto a little of them. Clothes tend to get build up before people do. Some people dont wash there clothes after each use. > > The suggestion of witch hazel was just for those occasions when someone felt they may be experiencing build up or have not been able to hit the showers, to help clear the slate so you could reapply > > Tisha I do a shower every day. Especially the application points I do wash and scrub very carefully, but if I use androstenone two days in row, the second day will not show the same great results like the first one, even I try to clean the application-points several times. ---
**Author:** ![Strike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Strike](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Strike)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/builtup-how-many-days-after-using-none-do-you-need-to-get-the-same-good-results/190005/10 "2011-08-15T19:06:59Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I have to agree with Steve, people misunderstand the whole build up thing. You dont really need witch hazel or any other astringent to get mones off you just need some soap and water. Build up only occurs after **prolonged use** and usually only occurs for those who dont take daily showers. I know most of us do take daily showers but lots of people dont. > > If your hairy you may experience more buildup as well. Hair tends to absorb some of the molecules and hold onto a little of them. Clothes tend to get build up before people do. Some people dont wash there clothes after each use. > > The suggestion of witch hazel was just for those occasions when someone felt they may be experiencing build up or have not been able to hit the showers, to help clear the slate so you could reapply > > Tisha Your posts is very helpful. 🙂 So the fact I shower every morning and use a314 and is each day I am safe? Lol I usually scrub pretty good anyways since I live in the desert and hot days are very often meaning sweating. I think my use of tuth will be very rare as I only go out in those situations maybe once a week if that.