# Business and personal edge **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 11, 2009, 8:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-and-personal-edge/33198 "2009-10-11T08:54:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![limoeiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@limoeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/limoeiro)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 8:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-and-personal-edge/33198/1 "2009-10-11T08:54:09Z")
Hi Everyone. **a) Your age, or general range** 24 years old. **b) Sex (male, female),** Male. **c) General location (don’t worry, nobody wants to stalk you 🙂), and** Australia, Sunshine Coast. **d) Most importantly, tell us a bit about yourself**, **your personality** , **why you’re here, and what you hope pheromones will do for you.** I am both an introvert and an extrovert, but I do shine a lot brighter in one-on-one situations than I do in group situations (unless I know a larger portion of the group). My career is a business entrepreneurship / development and I am currently developing my own personal training business. I am greatly involved in word-of-mouth / networking type business and I am going well at it, but I want to do better. Business wise I flow quite well but I also want to be able to connect with other business men / women on a more personal level, as effectively as possible. Preferably too when being exposed to large group of people (networking events, after work drinks, parties) where everyone has a different career, personality and most importantly often are twice my age. I want to establish common ground, respect and trust immediately and while I know pheromones is not the one solution (I spend a lot of time developing my networking skills), I hope that it will give me an edge, placebo or otherwise, to really shine in those situations. Relationships equal money, and the better I become at it, and especially connecting, making small talk and creating common ground - the better for my business and myself. I also believe that I may have more to prove being younger. I am also looking for an edge on a personal level. Now, I don’t make friends in business just to make money, not at all. I do it to make friends and business is a great bi-product. Being a young entrepreneur it is very easy (as I am really passionate about it) to get caught up and end up socializing mostly with people far outside your age group. I have no problem with that, but I don’t want to loose edge with people my edge just because I’m busy making a career for myself. I don’t want to wake up in 20 years regretting that I partied my years away, nor that I grew up too fast and missed out on having crazy fun. As I’ve been busy with work I have also been “too busy” for a relationship. It has served me well on a business level, but I believe I’m missing out on a personal level and you need both. I need to get back into the game again and find a balance in between the two to reach a new stage of happiness, but since my priorities have been of another kind lately, I would appreciate an edge. You could almost say that I’ve been married to my business for a few years now and have lost touch with dating and relationships. So basically, I’m looking for an edge to personal and business happiness, on a social level. I believe that I owe it to myself to render any means necessary to become the best I can be. My life needs more balance and I hope that pheromones will be one of the ingredients in my success. While haven’t really tried pheromones before, I am not sure what to expect (if anything), but would definitely promote your products in my circuits should I find them helpful and effective. **A gift certificate would be greatly appreciated**. You would’ve had my order anyway, but now I might as well wait until I receive it. I just might buy more products than planned, thank you. ---
**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 10:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-and-personal-edge/33198/2 "2009-10-11T10:54:08Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk, Limoeiro You’re a perfect fit for A314. Excellent for business use, it will project the aura of The Man, the alpha. Perfect for establishing trust and respect in business circles. It may also make you appear older and more experienced which will put you on an equal footing with your older peers. On a personal level, I’ve used A314 to great effect in meeting women, but dating is more of a by-product, a pleasant side effect to its true function. I use it because the androstenone-heavy pheros don’t mesh with me all that well. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is another good one for establishing trust and respect in business circles, promoting deep conversation. In dating, I’ve also used this one to good effect and it accelerates the getting-to-know-you phase considerably. Get it in x4 strength if you can. You’ll have a laugh when using it. The slips of the tongue you’ll hear are often very amusing. Musk ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 1:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-and-personal-edge/33198/3 "2009-10-11T13:18:03Z")
Welcome. Great intro! a313 for sure. It will be a big help in business relations. Also IG for a similar competent male vibe, but with more warmth. Ideal for the Aussie social interactions. You may want ammo in your initial arsenal also, for sparking interest with the ladies. ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-and-personal-edge/33198/4 "2009-10-11T13:55:59Z")
Hello limoeiro, welcome to the forum. Nice introduction. It is always pleasant when someone really takes the time to describe themselves. For business use, and to give you an edge in your social standing, you’ll definitely want A314. It is a competent, powerful, alpha-male vibe that increases your social value. That is a great asset in any situation. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is good too, it gives you a safe, dependable feeling that puts women at ease. It will make a lady feel more willing to trust you, as well. Ammo is a great tool in the dating arena, but it is unfortunately out of stock. They are giving it a new scent, and it will be out for a while yet. Instant Shine will give you a fun sparkle, a youthful, happy vibe. Makes people more cheerful, yourself included. Instant Honesty for bonding. Encourages others to open up and say what they really think, builds deeper communication in a relationship. Best of luck to you! ---
**Author:** ![limoeiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@limoeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/limoeiro)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-and-personal-edge/33198/5 "2009-10-11T23:44:05Z")
Thanks for the warm welcome. I am trying to keep my first order down to three or four products to keep it simple while I’m testing it out. How do you feel about this for a start and feel free to make suggestions (as you already have). It seems to fit my goals and your earlier recommendations, but you’ll know more about this than me. **1. Alpha.A314** (business / dating edge) \*\*2. Instant Shine **(confidence boost, softens the effect of a314) 3**. Instant Honesty [OR] Instant Openness \*\*(ice breaker / relationship builder together with a314, but unsure which one) **(4.) Instant Female Magic [OR] Turn Up The Heat [OR] AMMUNITION** (extra dating edge, but unsure which one or if to get it at all) ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-and-personal-edge/33198/6 "2009-10-12T01:03:22Z")
Very good choices, and versatile for a variety of applications. I think you’ll be particularly pleased with the Instant Shine. When it comes to Instant Honesty and Instant Openness, most people find this helpful to understanding how they work: Alpha-androstenol lends itself to lighthearted chatter, easy going conversations. Beta-androstenol lends itself to deeper, more intimate communication. Instant Openness is a 70/30 mix of alpha and beta nols. Instant Honesty is a 30/70 mix of alpha and beta nols. If you’re not sure what you want, you can try Come Talk to Me, which is more of a 50/50 mix. It encourages all sorts of conversation, but does not lean heavily in one direction or the other [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is not available and will likely not be available again. It’s main ingredient was androstadienone, which is now a patented molecule, and Androtics does not have permission to market it. They may come up with another formula eventually, but there is no IFM available now. Ammunition is also unavailable, as it is undergoing a refit of fragrance. This is a temporary matter, and it should be available again soon. Out of the three products mentioned in option #4, the only one available right now is TUTH. Wear this one sparingly, and be sure to use IShine or other social as a buffer. TUTH is mostly raw androstenone, very sexually attractive, but makes you seem sorta like a horn-dog. Hope this helps. ---
**Author:** ![hohohate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hohohate/32/2429_2.png) [@hohohate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hohohate)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-and-personal-edge/33198/7 "2009-10-12T02:56:14Z")
A good one to think about is InstantGentleman, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), or Tuth. They are all good, expecially the first two. I’ve always found shine helpful as well, because what employeer would not want to hire a happy go lucky person with an infectious case of the smiles? Just personal experiences on what businesses look for. Good luck on the interviews man! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/business-and-personal-edge/33198/8 "2009-10-12T18:01:56Z")
Hello and welcome to PheroTalk. I am so happy you were able to discover this most amazing community. We consider each other like family here and are totally committed to helping each other out. There are so many great people here and now another too 🙂. Currently we are in the process of seeking out an additional forum Host or two to help with the upkeep of the forum. With that in mind I will be issuing your GC in just a short while to your email. I would love to be able to personally respond to every new user signing on, but because I want to ensure you get the GC in time I can only reply with this message at this time. I’m sure you are anxious to get started, just like the rest of us were too 🙂. Its cool! Of course I am available to answer any question you might have regarding mones selection by calling me personally on the hotline. Please select extension one and I will be able to consult you one on one. Welcome to the forum.