# call the next day? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [September 27, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094 "2010-09-27T01:23:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/1 "2010-09-27T01:23:31Z")
I talked to this “PUA” and he said that I SHOULD call this girl that I met today ,around noon, tomorrow evening. I told him it would make me desperate, but he said it doesn’t, since she lives in the same apartment complex as me? I don’t understand his reasoning for this. Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/2 "2010-09-27T02:08:38Z")
Call once, if she doesn’t answer then leave a BRIEF message but don’t call again until she calls you. Calling the next day is fine imo so long as you have something to talk about other than “Hey I really enjoyed meeting you”. If you want to score a date actually have someplace to go, someplace you’d be going even if she said she was busy. “Hey I was wondering if you’d like to go grab a bit to eat or something tonight”=Bad “Hey I’m gonna be heading out to this great mexican place I like, you should come along, I’d like to talk to you a bit more and besides, the fajita’s at this place are the shit!”=good. When you call doesn’t matter so much as how you call and what you communicate when you talk to her. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/3 "2010-09-27T02:11:06Z")
Concur with Radman. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/4 "2010-09-27T02:14:31Z")
Call whenever you like, is what I say … UNLESS … she’s read it somewhere that men that call the next day are desperate! :o It’s those books and articles that are planting messed up seeds in people’s heads … IF … you asked me. 🙄 And yes, as usual, the Rad Mon is sharing good info! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/5 "2010-09-27T02:33:37Z")
I usually go with what Rad says, but I don’t know… haha… still …calling the next day is something that I didn’t think ANY guy would agree too, lol ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/6 "2010-09-27T02:37:24Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I usually go with what Rad says, but I don’t know… haha… still … **calling the next day is something that I didn’t think ANY guy would agree too** , lol That’s what happens when people say it, hear it and read it … a lot. Going with the flow is NOT ALWAYS the way to go, but that will always depend on your target’s knowledge of what society is SAYING what today’s fashion is. 😉 Why would a woman think you’re desperate or hit you with a failing grade, because you’re interested in her enough to call/wanna call her the next day? \ ---
**Author:** ![mrarob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@mrarob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrarob)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/7 "2010-09-27T02:42:48Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I usually go with what Rad says, but I don’t know… haha… still …calling the next day is something that I didn’t think ANY guy would agree too, lol This is what I do: Meet girl Get number Text her something like, “Get home safe girl -Arob” or “I had an amazing time tonight” Then next day, I text her saying, “Holy shit…last night was the craziest night ever” Her: “omgz, what happenned??” Me: “Even if I told you you wouldn’t believe me…” Her: Yes, I would, tell me!" Then, I call her up. I may or may not have an interesting story to tell, but the point is simple: I’m not texting her to have a textversation with her, I’m texting her so that she gets close to her phone. THEN, I call her up and say, “Laura…holy shit…” and THEN I ask her out or set up something. I’m not a big fan of leaving messages. But calling the next day isn’t that big of a deal. If you make it a big deal, then “what you feel, she feels”. If I call the next day, she has a better chance of remembering who I am and the “vibe” that we have isn’t forgotten or overshadowed by her going back to her normal life activities. ---
**Author:** ![mrarob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/fbc32d/32.png) [@mrarob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mrarob)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/8 "2010-09-27T02:44:51Z")
> [@mrarob](#): > > This is what I do: > > Meet girl > Get number > Text her something like, “Get home safe girl -Arob” or “I had an amazing time tonight” > > Then next day, I text her saying, “Holy shit…last night was the craziest night ever” > Her: “omgz, what happenned??” > Me: “Even if I told you you wouldn’t believe me…” > Her: Yes, I would, tell me!" > > Then, I call her up. I may or may not have an interesting story to tell, but the point is simple: I’m not texting her to have a textversation with her, I’m texting her so that she gets close to her phone. THEN, I call her up and say, “Laura…holy shit…” and THEN I ask her out or set up something. > > I’m not a big fan of leaving messages. > > But calling the next day isn’t that big of a deal. If you make it a big deal, then “what you feel, she feels”. If I call the next day, she has a better chance of remembering who I am and the “vibe” that we have isn’t forgotten or overshadowed by her going back to her normal life activities. And to further add on, I wouldn’t even need to call up with a story, I’d just text her so that I know she has her phone close and handy when I call her. Typically, if a girl texts me back immediately for 3 or 4+ texts, then I know that she’s not busy doing something and I call her back. However, if there is 2+ hour intervals between each reply, then I don’t really try and call. I might leave a message, but I’d probably just wait until she’s in a good talking time. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/9 "2010-09-27T02:47:28Z")
I concur. The only thing I would change is some of the wording. Too many 'I’s and 'You’s make the girl feel like she has an option. Add some 'We’s to create the illusion of participation in decision making and thinking of the two of you as a unit. Once she starts thinking of the two of you as ‘We’ it’s easier for her to picture the two of you as one. “Hey I’m gonna be heading out to this great mexican place I like, **why don’t you** (Tag question: makes it easier to agree with you.) come along? **We** can talk a bit more and besides, the fajita’s at this place are the shit!”. My 2 cents. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/10 "2010-09-27T03:04:59Z")
I will call. She was really hot - a drop-dead blonde bombshell with her half cleavage popping out in the middle of day. Texting would be a joke to her, I guess, lol ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/11 "2010-09-27T03:06:55Z")
I’ve been using the “you should come along” and it works pretty good for me ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/12 "2010-09-27T03:07:27Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I will call. She was really hot - a drop-dead blonde bombshell with her half cleavage popping out in the middle of day. Texting would be a joke to her, I guess, lol DUDE you know better than that. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/13 "2010-09-27T03:10:12Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > DUDE > > you know better than that. I never asked about texting vs call. I was just wondering why this one “PUA” thought calling the following day was ok, when most others say at least 3 days 😉 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/14 "2010-09-27T03:11:24Z")
Don’t over think it like these guys. https://www.youtube.com/embed/2aN4w2AfkEY?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/15 "2010-09-27T03:12:52Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > I never asked about texting vs call. I was just wondering why this one “PUA” thought calling the following day was ok, when most others say at least 3 days 😉 You wait the three days She’ll know you’re playing the dumb game we all do. I call when I have free time, your time frame your rules ---
**Author:** ![iSmellNice](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ismellnice/32/1188_2.png) [@iSmellNice](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/iSmellNice)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/16 "2010-09-27T10:28:54Z")
It’s really about the frame you are holding. I, for one, NEVER think about when I’m going to call her, because for me it’s just not an issue. If you don’t care about it, you’ll convey your dispassion and it won’t become a problem in the slightest. You’ll call when you damned well please and she’ll be fine with it. I’ve called girls an HOUR after meeting them and made plans to meet the next day. I don’t think anything of it and therefore THEY don’t. I’m sub-communicating dispassion, among other things. And you know what happens? Dates. Sex. Naked farm animal parachuting (kidding, but I would try!). And they don’t run away screaming ‘OMG STINKY DESPERATE MAN WHO HASN’T READ _THE RULES!!!_ OMG!!!’ Isn’t this better than “waiting” 3 days to call, 3 days that could have been spent bringing fun into both of your lives? I’d say get away from this “when do I call” nonsense that has been drilled into people’s heads by Swingers, The Rules, and other countless sources of misinformation. It’s terribly misleading and inefficient. Ask yourself - how does “when do I call” help you and her? It doesn’t. It’s an unnecessary form of self-denial that is supposed to create the illusion of non-neediness. The irony is it just creates more neediness and confusion for BOTH parties. Furthermore, if people in general were less needy, questions like “when should I call” would become trivial at best. I’d say the first step to answering when you should call is to stop asking the question. Instead, realize “When you should call” is about you and how you convey yourself. Seeing this will save you a bunch of complication. By the way, the author of _The Rules_ got a divorce a few years back. 🙂 I just read this over. I sound cranky. I’m not… LOL, it’s 6:00AM and… well, I need get back to this awesome dream I was having - involved ice cream, a dwarf, and Princess Leia. All I’m gonna say about that. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/call-the-next-day/42094/17 "2010-09-27T16:24:44Z")
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