# Can anyone give me some ideas for "Not caring" pheromones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 18, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790 "2009-07-18T05:47:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/1 "2009-07-18T05:47:30Z")
Any molecules/mixes would be nice. I’ve heard TAH was good, but it didn’t really do much for me. Of course I only used 2 or 3 sprays. Anything you got would be greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 8:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/2 "2009-07-18T08:11:19Z")
Oh no, what happened? That sucks if you feel you need “not caring” pheros! ☹ I have found MX300 to help, also there is that putative that makes you feel “cold and reptilian” but I’m braindead right now and can’t for the life of me think of it, even though I reported on it. I’ll find out what that is and get back to you. Spaceland supposedly helps some (it doesn’t do much for me), and MX274 can cheer you up and make things less irksome in your mind. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/3 "2009-07-18T08:15:29Z")
Okay, that one was p87, the totally emotionless one. And how much TAH did you use? 40-50mcg is a good dose for me. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 11:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/4 "2009-07-18T11:55:47Z")
Try TAC, I have found it to give me that “I dont care feeling” Not in a bad way but more of a laid back, go with the flow kinda vibe. Oh and what MCG of TAH are you using ? You probably just need more if the dosage is low. I use 50 to 75 mcg’s most of the time unless its in a mix with other mones. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Tessa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Tessa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tessa)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/5 "2009-07-18T15:45:08Z")
I/S A or just straight TAL gives me an “I don’t care what people think” attitude. (With me it’s more playful and confident than aggressive and confrontational though. I know with some women it goes the other way.) I really like TAL. Tisha made a good suggestion with TAC. It gives me a really chilled out feeling. Great for self-effects. I haven’t used it much lately…going to have to dig out my bottle!! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/6 "2009-07-18T19:39:42Z")
I’m only using 12.5 mcg so I think I’ll up the sprays to about 4 or 5 next time and see what effects I get. Thanks 🙂 I’ll need to check out that P87. I’ve never heard of the effects of it so I’ll be looking into that. I’ll keep the TAC and TAL in mind. Thanks guys. You’ve all been a big help! 🙂 If anyone else wants to chime in that’d be great. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/7 "2009-07-18T19:43:19Z")
Hmm, I used TAH at 12.5 so I guess I’ll up the sprays to 4 or 5. Thanks! Never heard of any effects by P87. I’ll def be looking into that one. I’ll try out the TAC and TAL as well. At what mcg do you guys use to get your not caring effects for both of these? Thanks all for the advice! If anyone else wants to chime in it would be greatly appreciated! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Legaleaglegirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Legaleaglegirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Legaleaglegirl)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/8 "2009-07-18T20:15:17Z")
IS/A gives me the “i dont care what others think” attitude like Tessa, but also makes me a bit jumpy, alert and anxious, like caffeine. Does TAL used alone not have those self effects? ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/9 "2009-07-18T20:22:12Z")
I do well with none and rone when I need an emotional buffer. I have weird reactions to things though so eh might not work for you and the mixed signal to guys while the boy vibe works for me somehow might also not be good. However, if you’re chillin at home or need it for study stress its a nice confidence boost and buffer. ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/10 "2009-07-19T07:28:54Z")
I’ve used both -none and -rone based products. I got more of the idc vibe from -rone then I did -none, but not enough to really make a difference. I was just using a dab tho. I wonder. Would it be bad to actually spray a -rone product like IG? ---
**Author:** ![Warren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/97f17d/32.png) [@Warren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Warren)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 7:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/11 "2009-07-19T07:52:43Z")
[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) - I don’t need anybody else. P103 - The pressures of life are gone! ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/12 "2009-07-19T07:54:43Z")
I will look into [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/), and I’m definitely getting P103 after mikoto’s post about the Drunken Mix. Thanks so much! ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 9:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/13 "2009-07-19T09:31:10Z")
P87 really shuts off the positive, connecting emotions. It is very chill, but not in a laid back, playful way. IMO, this is a very intellectual and cold molecule, but not much fun. It rather ramps up the assessing/calculating part of your mind, while dampening out the emotions. It definitely makes you not care, but I’m not sure this is really what you are looking for. If you are looking for a feel good molecule that ramps up your positive feelings about yourself to the extent that others’ negativity doesn’t bother you, I’m be much more enclined to play with Meo-Est (methoxyest), or one of the androstenols. They make you feel good, while keeping your connecting-playful self. Diane ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/14 "2009-07-21T02:46:01Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > P87 really shuts off the positive, connecting emotions. It is very chill, but not in a laid back, playful way. IMO, this is a very intellectual and cold molecule, but not much fun. It rather ramps up the assessing/calculating part of your mind, while dampening out the emotions. It definitely makes you not care, but I’m not sure this is really what you are looking for. > > If you are looking for a feel good molecule that ramps up your positive feelings about yourself to the extent that others’ negativity doesn’t bother you, I’m be much more enclined to play with Meo-Est (methoxyest), or one of the androstenols. They make you feel good, while keeping your connecting-playful self. > > Diane Yep, exactly what I’m looking for. Thanks for giving me more detail. Emotions get in the way sometimes. Would be nice to use when I just need to forget the troubles of the day and work on what needs to be worked on. Feel good molecules might be good also, but I like the idea of P87. Thanks for the insight. It was really helpful ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/15 "2009-07-21T03:14:39Z")
> [@happykitsune](#): > > Yep, exactly what I’m looking for. Thanks for giving me more detail. Emotions get in the way sometimes. Would be nice to use when I just need to forget the troubles of the day and work on what needs to be worked on. > > Feel good molecules might be good also, but I like the idea of P87. Thanks for the insight. It was really helpful Sure, np. Please do post your test results after you’ve had a chance to check it out. I’m especially interested in this molecule and how it works. I haven’t tested it in a long time, because I’m normally too intellectual. So, I’m for balancing that out with all the touchy-feely stuff. But I am still really curious about the effects of this one. Diane ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/16 "2009-07-21T03:22:15Z")
Oh really? I’m more of an emotional/sensual person so this might be just what I need to balance me out. I get way too emotional sometimes. Should be an interesting molecule to try out. I will definitely be reporting on it ---
**Author:** ![Sunbubbles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@Sunbubbles](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunbubbles)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/17 "2009-07-22T20:44:27Z")
whatevers in [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) gives me a COMPLETE non-chalant attitude I LOVE that stuff! Id love to see what some TAC would do. Isnt TAH the main ing in IS/B? I thought it was all sexy kitten like? ---
**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-give-me-some-ideas-for-not-caring-pheromones/30790/18 "2009-07-24T09:36:21Z")
I should try some TAC with IShine some time. Yeah Tah is the main component in B, but apparently it makes you feel special, like you can be happy without a guy…idk…just heard something to that effect on a report.