# Can anyone share their experiences with P83? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 1, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243 "2010-05-01T22:00:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![darkxiao](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/darkxiao/32/1321_2.png) [@darkxiao](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkxiao)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 10:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/1 "2010-05-01T22:00:35Z")
I’ve been thinking about picking this up but would like to hear some other experiences with it. From the low mcg (2.5-10) to the high (20+). Just trying to get a general idea on some of the effects from high and low dosages. ---
**Author:** ![ramon\_69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ramon_69/32/490_2.png) [@ramon\_69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ramon_69)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/2 "2010-05-01T22:24:53Z")
> [@darkxiao](#): > > I’ve been thinking about picking this up but would like to hear some other experiences with it. From the low mcg (2.5-10) to the high (20+). Just trying to get a general idea on some of the effects from high and low dosages. I seem to only get results with just one spray from a 12.5 mcg togo bottle. I have yet to see any good results if I use more than one spray, but everyone is different. Perhaps I also need to do more experiments for more sprays as well. I used to sit next to a girl at work named Jennifer who is practically a mute. She just sits there all day and rarely says anything at all. I came into work one day with just one spray of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and all of a sudden she would not shut up at all. She wasn’t talking to me, she was chatting to the girl next to her NON-STOP. The other girl made a statement “Jennifer, what’s gotten into you today?” I’m guessing that my P83 rubbed off on mute Jennifer cuz I was sitting next to her. Oh, also, I have gotten some very nice results with 1 spray of P83 plus one drop of A314. I posted my results here some while ago, but basically I got some excited reactions from females that I never typically see. It’s like they were excited to see me and were much more talkative than usual. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/3 "2010-05-02T01:06:10Z")
[http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7294/searchforum.jpg](http://img402.imageshack.us/i/searchforum.jpg/) ---
**Author:** ![darkxiao](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/darkxiao/32/1321_2.png) [@darkxiao](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkxiao)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/4 "2010-05-02T01:48:18Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > [http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7294/searchforum.jpg](http://img402.imageshack.us/i/searchforum.jpg/) Been there done that. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/5 "2010-05-02T02:03:43Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > [http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7294/searchforum.jpg](http://img402.imageshack.us/i/searchforum.jpg/) I almost guarantee that you’ll probably get more out of search option than you will out of asking about it. The molecule is meant to be tested. Obviously based on your observation of what is written in the forum you’ve decided to purchase P83. You must have some idea or you wouldn’t be interested in it. It sounds a little harsh saying it that way but honestly it’s better to come to the conclusion that you’ve seen for yourself through different trials than to use a prejudged dose that someone else has mentioned. I’d say you need to wear at least 10-12.5 mcgs to see anything noticeable but beyond that a lot of people wear varying degrees of P83. At its best I’d say P83 is a coercive molecule that smoothes out what your trying to project [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) wise but at its worst it can take a very unfavorable attribute of a mix and amplify it to the point of cock blocking yourself (which I’ve experienced my fair share) ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/6 "2010-05-02T02:30:32Z")
> [@darkxiao](#): > > Been there done that. A good trick I’ve learned is to do an advanced search and search for “title”. This will bring up threads that have whatever you’re searching for in the main title and will help narrow down your search.😉 ---
**Author:** ![darkxiao](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/darkxiao/32/1321_2.png) [@darkxiao](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkxiao)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/7 "2010-05-02T02:48:41Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > I almost guarantee that you’ll probably get more out of search option than you will out of asking about it. The molecule is meant to be tested. Obviously based on your observation of what is written in the forum you’ve decided to purchase P83. You must have some idea or you wouldn’t be interested in it. > > It sounds a little harsh saying it that way but honestly it’s better to come to the conclusion that you’ve seen for yourself through different trials than to use a prejudged dose that someone else has mentioned. I’d say you need to wear at least 10-12.5 mcgs to see anything noticeable but beyond that a lot of people wear varying degrees of P83. > > At its best I’d say P83 is a coercive molecule that smoothes out what your trying to project pheromone wise but at its worst it can take a very unfavorable attribute of a mix and amplify it to the point of cock blocking yourself (which I’ve experienced my fair share) I’ve read and observed posts about [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/); yes you are right about that. However I have not purchased anything yet. I did searches on the product and haven’t found much information as far as low dosage and so forth. I wouldn’t have asked the question if I found the answer I was looking for. Most posts on the forum about P83 are all based on dosages from anywhere between 20-40mcg which is why I asked about the low dosages. I’m not asking for people’s dosage to mimic, i’m just looking for a general median so I can decide whether it’s worth buying the 2.5mcg/spray or anything above that… ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/8 "2010-05-02T03:18:08Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > [http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7294/searchforum.jpg](http://img402.imageshack.us/i/searchforum.jpg/) > [@darkxiao](#): > > I’ve read and observed posts about P83; yes you are right about that. However I have not purchased anything yet. I did searches on the product and haven’t found much information as far as low dosage and so forth. I wouldn’t have asked the question if I found the answer I was looking for. Most posts on the forum about P83 are all based on dosages from anywhere between 20-40mcg which is why I asked about the low dosages. I’m not asking for people’s dosage to mimic, i’m just looking for a general median so I can decide whether it’s worth buying the 2.5mcg/spray or anything above that… You’ve basically answered your own question by mentioning 20-40 mcgs as you’ve read. A median as any person who has ever taken a math course before is an average number between the higher and lower extremes of the spectrum. Based on what you’ve said that makes it about 30 mcgs. Based on that account a 7.5 or a 10 or a 15 mcg per spray bottle would be ideal for you usage/ experimentation. These sort of questions are asked a lot and the posts within them from other members is usually never in absolute accordance with what the thread maker desired. As much I’d like to be spoon fed every aspect of every little thing on this forum at certain times it simply isn’t plausible with the way things work here. If your curious about a low dosage then give it a few trials and see if its worth it or not. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/9 "2010-05-02T03:33:56Z")
> [@darkxiao](#): > > I’ve read and observed posts about P83; yes you are right about that. However I have not purchased anything yet. I did searches on the product and haven’t found much information as far as low dosage and so forth. I wouldn’t have asked the question if I found the answer I was looking for. Most posts on the forum about P83 are all based on dosages from anywhere between 20-40mcg which is why I asked about the low dosages. I’m not asking for people’s dosage to mimic, i’m just looking for a general median so I can decide whether it’s worth buying the 2.5mcg/spray or anything above that… Just buy it and try it, only way to know for sure. I know you don’t want to buy it and have that dose not work for you but _this is the only way_ you’ll personally find out with effects unique to your body (not someone else.) ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/10 "2010-05-02T04:00:13Z")
Olfact and mikoto are dead on. That really is the only way to know what dose works for you. When I first started using p83 I had read a bunch of reports that went so far as to warn against using more than 25mcg at a time. I didn’t notice anything at the lower doses and now I typically use 40-60mcg with great results. Everyone is different. I’d suggest getting a to-go to start with so you can figure it out before investing in a 30mL. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/11 "2010-05-02T04:12:13Z")
thing is and I think this is his concern. If he gets too strong a concentration and the product becomes useless to him, too weak of one, and he’ll burn through a togo sized bottle in days trying to find his ideal dose. I imagine he’s just wanting a good ballpark estimate so he won’t feel like he’s throwing money away. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/12 "2010-05-02T04:17:35Z")
A good ballpark estimate is the dosage Steve always recommends starting with on putatives, that dose being 12.5 mcg. That’s pretty much a default “testing” dose which is good enough as a default amount to start with. As a matter of fact, I wish they had this mcg amount for 30 ml bottles. ---
**Author:** ![minimalistic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/minimalistic/32/1676_2.png) [@minimalistic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/minimalistic)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 8:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/13 "2010-05-02T08:33:50Z")
Use the tag search option, then type in only p83. just p83 youl get the best results. For dosage, mikoto’s right, 12.5 is usually best. If youre getting a bigger bottle than id suggest getting either 10 or 15mcg. ---
**Author:** ![darkxiao](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/darkxiao/32/1321_2.png) [@darkxiao](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/darkxiao)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/14 "2010-05-02T15:54:32Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > You’ve basically answered your own question by mentioning 20-40 mcgs as you’ve read. A median as any person who has ever taken a math course before is an average number between the higher and lower extremes of the spectrum. Based on what you’ve said that makes it about 30 mcgs. Based on that account a 7.5 or a 10 or a 15 mcg per spray bottle would be ideal for you usage/ experimentation. > > These sort of questions are asked a lot and the posts within them from other members is usually never in absolute accordance with what the thread maker desired. As much I’d like to be spoon fed every aspect of every little thing on this forum at certain times it simply isn’t plausible with the way things work here. If your curious about a low dosage then give it a few trials and see if its worth it or not. I didn’t say a median between 20-40mcgs. I was looking for a median between low dosages and high dosages. I said the posts i’ve read they’ve talked about any number between 20-40mcgs and was looking for information on the lower dosages. Regardless, I appreciate the information everyone has given me on what would be a good place to start as RADMAN said. ---
**Author:** ![millwark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/millwark/32/560_2.png) [@millwark](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/millwark)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/15 "2010-09-02T19:34:59Z")
Nice thread. I found my answer in it about dosages of p83 and that side effect of amplifying the worst… ---
**Author:** ![Pheebs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheebs/32/1180_2.png) [@Pheebs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheebs)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/16 "2010-09-23T00:31:26Z")
Hi! I’m still new with all these but I did want to share this since it happened twice to me. Twice now I have worn 1 drop of A314, 2 sprays of instant shine (2x), 1 spray of Come Talk To Me, 1 Instant Honesty and 3 sprays of P83. Both nights were social occasions. And both nights I had a 5 hr energy drink early afternoon and was drinking alcohol. (1 night I wore 2 sprays of Instant Sexy A and 1 spray of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) as well). The effects I noticed both nights was that I when I ran out of steam, it happened HARD & FAST. I was monitoring my alcohol intake mindfully because I wanted to enjoy the evening. And I rarely get completely plastered. But both evenings I seemed to go from a happy buzz to lead-filled eyelids in a matter of 30 minutes. I tell ya what, it was scary. So I’m not sure what the exact ‘sandman’ combo was, but I know that both times a 5 hr energy drink, alcohol & P83 were involved. On another note, I noticed that my memory of those evenings was very ‘one on one’ even though I was surrounded by people. My memory seems to focus or highlight one person at a time, very vividly, like I had blinders on when having a conversation with someone. I didn’t notice so much at the time but rather looking back. I also got fabulous compliments. Often. Like beyond the norm. Even after the fact…emails since with compliments. Anyway, don’t know if that helps but I wanted to share! ~ Pheebs ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/17 "2010-09-23T04:48:21Z")
> [@Pheebs](#): > > Hi! > > I’m still new with all these but I did want to share this since it happened twice to me. > > Twice now I have worn 1 drop of A314, 2 sprays of instant shine (2x), 1 spray of Come Talk To Me, 1 Instant Honesty and 3 sprays of P83. Both nights were social occasions. And both nights I had a 5 hr energy drink early afternoon and was drinking alcohol. (1 night I wore 2 sprays of Instant Sexy A and 1 spray of Instant Openness as well). > > The effects I noticed both nights was that I when I ran out of steam, it happened HARD & FAST. I was monitoring my alcohol intake mindfully because I wanted to enjoy the evening. And I rarely get completely plastered. But both evenings I seemed to go from a happy buzz to lead-filled eyelids in a matter of 30 minutes. I tell ya what, it was scary. So I’m not sure what the exact ‘sandman’ combo was, but I know that both times a 5 hr energy drink, alcohol & P83 were involved. > > On another note, I noticed that my memory of those evenings was very ‘one on one’ even though I was surrounded by people. My memory seems to focus or highlight one person at a time, very vividly, like I had blinders on when having a conversation with someone. I didn’t notice so much at the time but rather looking back. > > I also got fabulous compliments. Often. Like beyond the norm. Even after the fact…emails since with compliments. > > Anyway, don’t know if that helps but I wanted to share! > > ~ Pheebs [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) typically leads to a crash like that. I’m not sure how long you’ve been using some of these molecules, but sometimes they will overload your brain (don’t know the scientific term) and you’ll have a caffeine like crash afterwards, I remember I was getting that from P130 lately, and that’s a completely new molecule. Stay hydrated and move around, try not to sit or it’ll knock you on your ass. But once you’re used to it, you should be good to go. I’ve worn 150+ mcgs of pheromones a night so I’m used to anything I put on but when I first started using it, I was passing out. You’ll be fine after you get used to the effects. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/18 "2010-09-28T04:30:57Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > I almost guarantee that you’ll probably get more out of search option than you will out of asking about it. The molecule is meant to be tested. Obviously based on your observation of what is written in the forum you’ve decided to purchase P83. You must have some idea or you wouldn’t be interested in it. > > It sounds a little harsh saying it that way but honestly it’s better to come to the conclusion that you’ve seen for yourself through different trials than to use a prejudged dose that someone else has mentioned. I’d say you need to wear at least 10-12.5 mcgs to see anything noticeable but beyond that a lot of people wear varying degrees of P83. > > At its best I’d say P83 is a coercive molecule that smoothes out what your trying to project pheromone wise but at its worst it can take a very unfavorable attribute of a mix and amplify it to the point of cock blocking yourself (which I’ve experienced my fair share) olfact, you crack me up, lol ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/19 "2010-09-28T04:32:20Z")
> [@darkxiao](#): > > I’ve read and observed posts about P83; yes you are right about that. However I have not purchased anything yet. I did searches on the product and haven’t found much information as far as low dosage and so forth. I wouldn’t have asked the question if I found the answer I was looking for. Most posts on the forum about P83 are all based on dosages from anywhere between 20-40mcg which is why I asked about the low dosages. I’m not asking for people’s dosage to mimic, i’m just looking for a general median so I can decide whether it’s worth buying the 2.5mcg/spray or anything above that… Dude, steve said start from low… like 2.5mcg per spray. that is good! really! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243/20 "2010-09-28T05:52:17Z")
> [@CoolKatDC](#): > > Dude, steve said start from low… like 2.5mcg per spray. that is good! really! I dunno about 2.5 for P83 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-anyone-share-their-experiences-with-p83/38243.md?page=2)