# Can mixing Instant Openness and Instant Honesty 1:1 replace CTTM2? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 23, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093 "2009-06-23T04:23:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/1 "2009-06-23T04:23:27Z")
i’ve been wanting to try CTTM2 for a while now, but lately i’ve been reading that it is a 50/50 mix of alpha and beta -nol. i have both instant openness and instant honesty so if i use those two in a 1:1 ratio would i end up with the same stuff as CTTM2 or is CTTM2 so different that i have to buy it? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 4:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/2 "2009-06-23T04:34:37Z")
I believe the ratio is closer to 70/30 with Alphanol being the 70%, but don’t quote me on that. You could combine your [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty, but buing that we don’t know the levels of nols in either, you’re not going to get the same results. Give it a shot though, couldn’t hurt! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/3 "2009-06-23T05:08:10Z")
As far as I know, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty include other molecules than Alpha and Beta -nol. These two are by far the highest in concentration and the main molecules, but if I’m not mistaken neither of them are pure alpha or beta -nol. You could get a similar effect than CTTM2, but it won’t be an exact both because as Mark said you don’t know the levels of nol in them and because other molecules are there as well. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/4 "2009-06-23T08:40:07Z")
If you wanna dupicate CTTM2, buy Experimone alpha & beta nols at the same mcg as CTTM and mix 1:1. You could even make CTTM 2X, 4X, etc., if you have a couple spare benjamins. 4X would be sorta an intelligent Spaceland without the hippie stink. ---
**Author:** ![SoulCreator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soulcreator/32/236_2.png) [@SoulCreator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SoulCreator)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/5 "2009-06-23T12:04:13Z")
Even if you did get the proper ratio of Alpha nol to Beta nol by mixing [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Honesty your mix would still be thrown off by the fact that the both of them have buffering pheromones which would throw your mix out of wack… I think Geogoi is on to something, you could probably mix the experimones at a 1:1 radio and get something pretty similar. But to answer your question, yes you could put on 2 sprays of IO and two sprays of IH and the end result wouldn’t be all too bad, but would I probably wouldn’t call it CTTM. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/6 "2009-06-23T13:34:46Z")
CTTM is straight 50/50 anol and bnol. IO is 70% anol and 30% bnol with another added undisclosed molecule. Now Mharris has said that you can use a 50/50 layering of IO and IH for a similar effect and it works well if not better because of they are buffered with other mones. CTTM is more raw. It makes people talk and draws them but the attraction and connection factor seems less prominant with it. I still enjoy the mix but i prefer to use IO and IH instead myself. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/7 "2009-06-23T17:32:20Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > CTTM is straight 50/50 anol and bnol. > > IO is 70% anol and 30% bnol with another added undisclosed molecule. > > Now Mharris has said that you can use a 50/50 layering of IO and IH for a similar effect and it works well if not better because of they are buffered with other mones. > > CTTM is more raw. It makes people talk and draws them but the attraction and connection factor seems less prominant with it. I still enjoy the mix but i prefer to use IO and IH instead myself. > > Tisha can you put one spray on top of another or will that cause a weird chemical reaction ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/8 "2009-06-23T20:23:53Z")
> [@meow333x](#): > > can you put one spray on top of another or will that cause a weird chemical reaction It will explode, so be careful.😃 ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/9 "2009-06-23T20:32:43Z")
lol, cttm is great, but to get the effects I like I have to use 8 sprays. I like that… OMG WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!!!.. and I have never met them before 😉 ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/10 "2009-06-23T21:49:32Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > lol, cttm is great, but to get the effects I like I have to use 8 sprays. > > I like that… OMG WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!!!.. > > and I have never met them before 😉 isn’t that one of the principle ingredients in panty scorcher? ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 9:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/11 "2009-06-24T09:35:09Z")
> [@meow333x](#): > > isn’t that one of the principle ingredients in panty scorcher? Sure is. Eight sprays, in fact. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/12 "2009-06-24T09:46:45Z")
Sure you can layer the two and no it wont cause a weird chemical reaction. It will give you a buffered more connecting version of CTTM. I like all three products but I prefer IO and IH separately for the versatility. This way I can layer when I want or just use one or the other. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mixing-instant-openness-and-instant-honesty-1-1-replace-cttm2/30093/13 "2009-06-24T15:34:43Z")
> [@Ball.Saxbury](#): > > Sure is. Eight sprays, in fact. how do you get eight sprays into one spray? concentrated juju juice?