# Can Mones make you test positive for steroid? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 19, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206 "2009-11-19T03:18:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/1 "2009-11-19T03:18:04Z")
I was looking into some mone stuff and came across **AndrosteRone, Androstenone, and Adrostenol on love scent. I kno androsterone Is a steroid… If I use androsterone as a part of one of my products… can i test positive in a drug test…lets say at the olympics?.. I dont think it can enter the blood stream.. since there is no trasmition substance like gel steroids probably have… but lets say I tain my sample because some of this stuff is on my hand and it gets on the cup I piss in.. is it possible??** ---
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/2 "2009-11-19T04:10:05Z")
Seriously 10 view no replies?? OK well I asked a pro ill get an awnser for you soon 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![shadeline](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b2d939/32.png) [@shadeline](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/shadeline)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/3 "2009-11-19T04:15:46Z")
Even though I viewed a few times, I do not know that answer. I’ve been hoping it would be answered soon too 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/4 "2009-11-19T04:25:20Z")
hahahah… its a funny concept imagine an athlete at the olympics gets sprayed by another athlete b4 a test… BAM!! there goes his life.. I asked cces… anti doping in canada…when they reply ill post the awnser… its there job to protect athlete from accidently taking a banned substance… not only to police the hell out of us… imagine waking up at 6am to go to school and drug control is waiting outsid eyour door to test you… cmon man i jsut took my morning piss im gonan be late for my exam!!! lol… I hope they dont send me a generic awnser like be carefull what you put on your body!!! lolol its not about me…its what about other ppl spray too!! tell u the truth after making search on the net…i found no connection between the 2… so i dont think its possible… i dont think the [pheromone](https://a314.com/) versions can be metabolised… i dont think its the smae molecule as the one used for steroid purposes…it might only by the smell part of the substance!! the reason why some orders get held at the border could prabably also be screening for roids…as they might be snuk in like that… but in the end I found no info on testing positive for pheros as a stroid in a drug test.. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/5 "2009-11-19T04:35:20Z")
I’m thinking the answer will be No. It’s not like you are ingesting the [pheromones](https://a314.com/). They are also very very subtle to a persons body compared to something like steroids!!! You may be confusing the names of the pheromones with hormones. Although they may change the hormone balance in your body, they would not cause you to be tested positively for steroids. ---
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/6 "2009-11-19T04:46:43Z")
Im thinking and hoping NO!!.. I dont think Im searching the wrong names because I copy pasted it straight form the love scent site… here is an example of one…`http://www.love-scent.com/product_info.php/c/kits-supplies/p/androsterone/cPath/11/products_id/61` … i found them on this list… `http://www.love-scent.com/index.php/c/kits-supplies/cPath/11?osCsid=b31f35484c4c0e474503f32c86437f86...` you talked about the possibility of it changing my hormone level…that worries me… do you kno how that is possible…im curiouse…i dont understand hwo soemthign outside the body can change the level… its interesting!! ---
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/7 "2009-11-19T04:57:17Z")
WOW!!! WHY DIDNT I THINK OF THIS B4!!! Pheromones are produced naturally by the body… so what ever pheromones are in the product are already on my skin…threw sweat glands..right??? the function of the epithilial tissue of the sweat gland is one way…secreation!!!..so the pheros are out naturally…with no way to go in…so adding more shpuld not making me test positive…the question is can they enter the body… hmmmm ---
**Author:** ![BLADE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blade/32/2083_2.png) [@BLADE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BLADE)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/8 "2009-11-19T04:59:33Z")
I’m pretty sure the answer will be no… Pheromones don’t enter your bloodstream. It would be the same likelihood of testing positive simply for being particularly sweaty and smelly 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/9 "2009-11-19T05:06:30Z")
hahahahah that would be crazy jks… yeah I have to much of an alpha me vide im gonna have to take ur sporting career away… I had to ask and find out because anti- doping agencies are stiklers… aboout everyhting!!! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 6:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/10 "2009-11-19T06:59:54Z")
Androstenone and other mones are naturally present in male urine, sweat, saliva and semen. I’m positive even if you were completely covered in the before mentioned fluids you’d merely gross out the nurse or doctor administering the steroid test (or get a date). You can also drink the before mentioned fluids and test negative. Perhaps if you mainlined dry chemset mones dissolved in ice water you might get a twitch… ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/11 "2009-11-19T16:06:02Z")
I made a thread that talked about this not too long ago. It’s in the phero theory forum ([The Science Behind the Mayhem](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-science-behind-the-mayhem/33548)) if you want to check it out. I believe the pheros are in fact absorbed by the skin and do enter the blood stream and act to create modest increases in testosterone levels. They are however (for the most part) hormones that are naturally found in the body (i.e Androstenidione is the direct precursor to Testosterone). So while they may increase hormone levels, they should not be detected as exogenous steroids unless you literally bathe in them (in which case you have some issues to work through 🙂) ---
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/12 "2009-11-19T19:16:34Z")
yeah sry… i saw the thread… but i have another qustion… do u think the substances in the products can be identified in the urine as being manufactured…instead of produced naturally?? ---
**Author:** ![Skadeh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Skadeh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Skadeh)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/13 "2009-11-19T19:57:28Z")
Google steroids and pheromones and look at their chemical compositions. They’re completely different. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/14 "2009-11-19T20:16:24Z")
Hmm… transdermal topical cream consisting of Androsterone, DHEA, and pregnolone: "1-T" 1-Androsterone (1-DHEA, 1-Androstene-3b-ol) DHEA Topical ([http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/1-t.html?&cat=256](http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/1-t.html?&cat=256)) Suggested application of 5 pumps contains a whopping 112.5mg of 1-Androsterone™. Boasts that skin enzymes convert 1-Androsterone™ and DHEA to Testosterone. Scientific blurb supporting the effects of the product: [Articles about nutrition, supplements, drugs, health, training, ect](http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/educational-articles.html?id=49) ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/15 "2009-11-19T21:14:35Z")
> [@AK\_47](#): > > yeah sry… i saw the thread… but i have another qustion… do u think the substances in the products can be identified in the urine as being manufactured…instead of produced naturally?? Please take whatever information I give with a grain of salt. I have not done my own peronal clinical research on the subject, and as such, I can only use what information I have found from existing clinical studies. There is no guarentee what I say is correct, it is simply my educated opinion. That being said, I feel that the concentrations that AD pheros use have a low enough concentration of pheromones to not have much an effect on urine levels. This of course does not apply to custom orders (example: Meo-Est) that can be ordered with concentrations in the hundreds to thousands of micrograms. I did a quick search and found a few articles online about an Anabolic steroid called Nandrolene, which is an analogue of testosterone (modified testosterone molecule). It seems that people take this steroid in amounts upwards of 100 **milli** grams at a time, and even with these amounts, it is only detected in significant levels in 14% of individuals. **I am not telling you to take Nandrolene.** It has a LOT of adverse effects on the body and can cause serious damage to organs. Now taking that information into consideration, androtics pheromones have concentrations in **micro** grams. (1 milli = 1000 micro). Based off of this information, using AD pheros will probably increase steroid levels in the blood, and maybe in the urine, but I doubt to any appreciable level. Again, take this with a grain of salt. This is only the opinion of a med student that has a while to go in school 😛. ---
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/16 "2009-11-19T23:41:29Z")
> [@Pheraoh](#): > > Hmm… transdermal topical cream consisting of Androsterone, DHEA, and pregnolone: > > "1-T" 1-Androsterone (1-DHEA, 1-Androstene-3b-ol) DHEA Topical ([http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/1-t.html?&cat=256](http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/1-t.html?&cat=256)) > > Suggested application of 5 pumps contains a whopping 112.5mg of 1-Androsterone™. > > Boasts that skin enzymes convert 1-Androsterone™ and DHEA to Testosterone. > > Scientific blurb supporting the effects of the product: > > [Articles about nutrition, supplements, drugs, health, training, ect](http://www.primordialperformance.com/store/educational-articles.html?id=49) I think thisis equivalent to taking tribulus… ---
**Author:** ![AK\_47](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ak_47/32/819_2.png) [@AK\_47](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AK_47)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/17 "2009-11-20T02:10:42Z")
It jsut sucks…cuz i ordered A314, IO, and TUTH… with my bro… I jsut want to be able to try them…and its taking forever to get an awnser from cces. ---
**Author:** ![alfredjr18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@alfredjr18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alfredjr18)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/18 "2009-12-11T13:59:44Z")
Instant Drug Test Kits I think in order for it to get into the system, it would need to be taken orally and enough amount on the gel application. My friend told me about a [steroid drug test](http://www.testcountry.com/categories.html?cat=349&middle) you can purchase to test yourself. I think it is called Steroid Confirm or something like that.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/19 "2009-12-11T17:35:05Z")
While I don’t think wearing pheromones is like taking drugs, I would be very circumspect about using them if I was an athlete at the level of competition that would have to worry about doping tests. Biggest concern would be unknown pheromones like the putatives. Like you said even having it on your hands could result in contamination. Why take that chance with your career? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206/20 "2009-12-12T11:18:31Z")
Just so you know over half the pheromones here are classified as steroids or androgens. My simple answer is no they wont make you test positive but I have never seen studies to back this up and I am not sure of there testing procedures and I am unsure of what they are testing for exactly. I assume much like testing for pot, when they test for high levels of THC, they are testing for unnatural levels of androgens in your body. NO pheromone has been proven to increase the natural levels of androgens in the body except copulins (testosterone). While they do bind to receptors in the brain they do not bond to the nuclear receptors in your cells like steroids would if you ingested or injected them therefore, I believe you wont test positive. So… If the test is a blood or urine test your fine. I would still take some precautions though… If its a hair test do not spray product to your hair. Pheromones will absorb to some extent to hair and I am not sure if this may trigger a positive response. I would suggest that you stop using pheromones about a week before testing. Anything that may have entered your system (which is not likely but better safe then sorry) will be worked out of your system by your metabolism by then. Do not use your A314 or any oil blend. Oils absorb more. The alcohol ones diffuse away from the body easier. Keep this in mind, Pheromone signaling doesn’t change the natural cells in the body. They cause no permanent change, once the signal is gone its gone. If they did you would not need to continually use them to see results. Think of it this way… could you be effected from spending time in a room with higher testosterone men. You wont test positive for steroid use then and your inhaling a great deal of androgens in this environment. If a sweaty high testosterone level guy sweats all over me during sex I am not going to test for high testosterone. They are testing on a more cellular level. Taking steroids orally does change the cell structure. Spraying them up your nose could change cell structure but not inhaling natural airborne pheromones. Its those changes in the binders and receptors and the proteins this gives off they are probably testing for. I know some guys will claim that when they stop using the product they notice hits still. This is not due to the pheromones its due to peoples preconceived notions and the users attitude change. Usually there confidence levels increase and this is just a placebo effect of sorts. Ultimately because this situation has never occurred before we can not give you a answer that is set in stone so this is a judgement you will have to make for yourself. Tisha [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-mones-make-you-test-positive-for-steroid/34206.md?page=2)