# Can pheromones make up for not being good looking? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 15, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141 "2007-04-15T12:30:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/41 "2007-04-18T15:28:28Z")
I hope everyone calms down so we can get back on topic.. Perhaps you can try to get your target to drink a lot of alcohol… 😃 edit: Perhaps there is some putative which may be a see-everything-good-and-beautiful pheromone… tacitus? any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/42 "2007-04-18T15:33:04Z")
> [@m3turbo](#): > > …If a nice guy can learn to convince women that he is an arrogant dipshit to the point where they want to change him then making the conversion to being a nice boyfriend is not much of a stretch at all. This tactic can lead to many fruitful and meaningful relationships with women … This may be true, but if so, each of us should ask himself to what length he is willing to degrade his character in order to get laid. The famous physicist Richard Feynman addressed this in his autobiography “Surely you’re joking, Mr. Feynman.” When Feynman was a young nerd an older guy explained this theory of treating women like dirt. Feynman tried it out and found that it worked as advertised. Then after a bit of reflection Feynman decided he didn’t want to be like that, even if it was a successful strategy with some women. ---
**Author:** ![leto44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@leto44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leto44)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 3:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/43 "2007-04-18T15:42:05Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > I hope everyone calms down so we can get back on topic.. > > Perhaps you can try to get your target to drink a lot of alcohol… 😃 > > edit: Perhaps there is some putative which may be a see-everything-good-and-beautiful pheromone… > tacitus? any ideas? HAHAHAHAHA ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/44 "2007-04-18T15:53:15Z")
I searched the forum and found a post by MHarris saying that he gets ‘beer goggles’ from IFM. I wonder if us men putting on an IFM made for women would work that way. Or does do women get a similar effect when we wear the normal IFM? I wonder… ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/45 "2007-04-18T16:20:11Z")
Apologies to m3turbo, I actually thought you were interested in getting to know the poor woman (the one who enjoys being treated like dirt). ---
**Author:** ![leto44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@leto44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leto44)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/46 "2007-04-18T19:30:42Z")
You can go back to the topic. Maybe someone is interested. ---
**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/47 "2007-04-18T20:49:29Z")
> [@leto44](#): > > This is for the thread about “the good girls and the bad guys”! > > Yesterday a guy that I know, almost killed his girlfriend because she met his friend for a coffee! This is not for the first time he beats her. One of the times he did that, he made her to fall on her knees and to apologize\*. And she did it, not because she is made to, but because she wanted him to forgive her. > > I think some of the things are absolute truth for the good girls who like bad guys. > > For some girls who choose the “bad guy” it’s a hazadous choice, because this guy won’s stand a girl to cheat on him, not even a thought about it. The choice is hers. > > For me, hitting/beating a girl is a thing I wouldn’t do (well maybe if this saves her life or something), but understanding the “good girl - bad guy” relationship is the key to understand the thesis of m3turbo. perhaps you would be better off delineating the girls **you know** who enjoy being treated like dirt, as opposed to making a blanket statement in regards to ALL WOMEN. ---
**Author:** ![bmthint](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bmthint/32/1283_2.png) [@bmthint](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bmthint)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/48 "2007-04-19T01:03:57Z")
well i dun blame m3 for saying this, i mean b4 i started reading pu material and psycology of women and stuff, i did assume that women like arrogant jerks. i mean look, we even have a product here to make u seem like that (instant jerk). i mean when u look at the world 2day, at least 2 me, i c many hbs with some jackass that treats her like shit. so m3 wasnt trying to be an asshole, that is just how he, and many other guys actualy c it. btw to all the women reading in the men’s forums, plz understand that we can be rude and brash and “assholes” sometimes, but thats just how we are. sam, i understant u have strong feelings about this but we _are_ in the mens forum so it is the _mens_ point of view m3 was expressing here. i am sure he was not advocating rape or anything as that is a sick and heinous crime. ---
**Author:** ![fullmoonnow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fullmoonnow/32/1821_2.png) [@fullmoonnow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fullmoonnow)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/49 "2007-04-19T01:56:51Z")
No problem. I found the arrogant jerk behaviour exhibited by m3turbo to be pretty repulsive however, maybe it only works in real life. Who knows. Back to the topic: Click [here](http://nymag.com/nymetro/nightlife/sex/columns/mating/10030/) for article on how an ugly guy mates with many hot women - from a woman’s perspective. > [@](#): > > “When I see a really attractive guy,” says Stella, “I assume he’s gay or a player and I don’t even bother talking to him. If something about him screams sexy, that’s never a good sign. Those are the ones you should run away from.” I think it’s all charisma. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/50 "2007-04-19T02:05:14Z")
> [@steveo](#): > > I wear a paper bag and it suites me just fine. > > Seriously though man, lose the negativity about yourself. Look at my picture. I get lots of attention from the ladies. It’s all about your inner game and believing in yourself. …but you didn’t mention what “kind” of ladies!??😛 😛 😃 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/51 "2007-04-19T02:13:42Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Please, please mention this in the woman’s forum. …and I have predicted what’s going to happen to him!!😛 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/52 "2007-04-19T02:22:49Z")
> [@](#): > > This may be true, but if so, each of us should ask himself to what length he is willing to degrade his character in order to get laid. Now there’s an insightful and telling thought. As I recall, when I was in my teens and early 20s, I was willing to dance naked in red square if I thought it would get me laid. After a few years of shameful and characterless deeds merely to get honey on my stinger, I had enough. I decided to be myself do what I wanted: have relationships with women I liked and those that preferred being treated like human beings. Of course I had to be a lot more picky and suddenly the field narrowed mainly to intelligent and educated women. Oddly, they proved to be much better companions and bed partners than my cute airhead lovers. ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/53 "2007-04-19T02:23:38Z")
> [@leto44](#): > > Can I compensate the attractivness of a good look? Yes. People do it all the time. Its called MONEY. Women will completely ignore what you look like if you have enough of it. Smartmones is working on a spray version of it. I think its called the Ted Dibiasi Mix. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/54 "2007-04-19T02:56:43Z")
> [@sam17](#): > > ARE YOU FOR REAL??? > > _ **THAT’S** _ THE KIND OF IGNORANT COMMENTARY that makes you seem like the type of guy that would say that a girl was “asking for it” when she got raped & beaten because she was wearing a miniskirt. > > Though I don’t know, maybe you _ **ARE** _ that type of guy… > > I **pity** your target girl… Hi Sam! You can contribute your valuable views/opinions in this thread: It’s Macho To Stand Up For Women.. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/55 "2007-04-19T03:50:04Z")
Hmm, where’d ma post go? ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 4:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/56 "2007-04-19T04:14:04Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Hmm, where’d ma post go? Bermuda Triangle, I believe!!😛 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 6:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/57 "2007-04-19T06:11:10Z")
What is weird is I saw it displayed. I came back later and it was gone. I thought maybe the censors got it. However I didn’t use any dirty words or discuss banned pheromone wholesalers. Odd indeed… ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/58 "2007-04-19T07:17:22Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > What is weird is I saw it displayed. I came back later and it was gone. I thought maybe the censors got it. However I didn’t use any dirty words or discuss banned pheromone wholesalers. Odd indeed… It’s just a technical malfunction…and still hasn’t fully rectified yet.. ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/59 "2007-04-19T07:53:09Z")
huh…? ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/60 "2007-04-19T14:09:32Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Hmm, where’d ma post go? The forum gremlin ate one of mine as well. A bit of a piss off ain’t it? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141.md?page=4)