# Can someone identify this molecule: is it Meo-Est? **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [July 2, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-someone-identify-this-molecule-is-it-meo-est/30316 "2009-07-02T01:07:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-someone-identify-this-molecule-is-it-meo-est/30316/2 "2009-07-03T13:44:27Z")
This is a tuff one. We all looked high and low for info on Meo Est and didnt get much. I will give some of the info I have and maybe that will help you discover more since you have the background to figure this out. I just dont have the chemistry background you do but maybe something I post will help lead you to the answers … Its suspected they changed the name or something got screwed up in the translation of it. it was asked but never cleared up. This post when it first came out was interesting > [@Estratetraenol - got another request. How much?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/estratetraenol-got-another-request-how-much/37): > > I just got another request for estratetraenol via pm. That’s two requests in the last day or so, 3 in the week. Considering that nobody normally talks about requests it, this is like a miniavalanche. How much do you guys wants, and/or what kind of price point? Androstadienone and estratetraenol I now order from a completely third party lab that has nothing to do with us. This is as an additional legal shield against the patents, some of which cover various synthesis routes. It’s many times mor… Here it is spelled **Methoxyestratetraenone** but in the Maiworm study abstract it’s spelt **Methoxyest\*\*\*\*ateraene**. [Homepage Dr. Regina Buschmann-Maiworm](http://www.geruch-odor.de/books/book05.html) Dr. Regina E. Maiworm Influence of estradienol and methoxyestateraene on the assessment of the opposite sex. Abstract In a double blind study estradienol, methoxyestateraene or the controls cholesterol or mineral oil were applied to the upper lip of 240 men and women. Before the application a standardized test about the mood was administered. After the application five persons (standardized whole-body photographs) of the opposite sex were rated on 19 bipolar, seven stepped ratingscales. Each subject rated the five persons one by one. After the rating the test about the moood was conducted again. The session was finished by a structured interview. Each subject was tested individually by a same sex experimenter. Physiological parameters (respiration, heart rate, skin conductance) were measured during each session. Under estradienol the men were rated by women as better, harder and more nonchalant than under control. Under the influence of methoxyestateraene the women were rated by men as better, kinder and they were much more liked than under control. This post may be helpful > [@What's -dienol?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-dienol/2178): > > And where can I get some? Is there alpha -dienol and beta -dienol? And how about any input profiling the action of some other pheros: androstAnone EST MEO-EST \*]Androstadienone [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Steroidogenesis.svg/676px-Steroidogenesis.svg.png](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Steroidogenesis.svg) According to this chart your damn close if not correct in your picture above. The chart I have in my home office is better but this is the only one I had online. I cant find the molecule you posted in any of my charts so maybe you found it. Maybe Meo est is something derived during the cross over from Testosterone and Estradiol [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Reaction-Testosterone-Estradiol.png](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Reaction-Testosterone-Estradiol.png) Or it could be … > [@](#): > > Equilin (aka estratetraenone) is an analog of methoxyestratetraenone , This was something “HEC” posted over at Love scent. Just so you know HEC is are unmentionable person who had trouble with the law and we cant talk about here LOL They called him on it being a horse mone though so I dont know where this leads but again worth mention. I have no trust in him but it is sold under the meo est name at his place. Then again he did get in trouble with the law for passing one molecule off as another. This link may be of use as well [http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jm00236a028](http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jm00236a028) > **[Remington](https://books.google.com/books?id=NFGSSSbaWjwC&pg=PA1464&lpg=PA1464&dq=equilin+analog&source=bl&ots=V6-VQddzro&sig=rMGrfITABeKcIhonPL7sElCCJwY&hl=en&ei=ABROSoOXFY3eNZvGvO0D&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7)** > > For over 100 years, Remington has been the definitive textbook and reference on the science and practice of pharmacy. This Twenty-First Edition keeps pace with recent changes in the pharmacy curriculum and professional pharmacy practice. More than 95... Maybe you can make heads or tails of it. I can confidently say I dont know what Meo Est is and I dont think many people do. Let me know if you find out anything. Tisha --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-someone-identify-this-molecule-is-it-meo-est/30316)._