# Can you buy just copulins, do pheros expire, and what's best for a first impression?

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**Created:** [December 11, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-buy-just-copulins-do-pheros-expire-and-whats-best-for-a-first-impression/23856 "2008-12-11T15:04:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sunbubbles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@Sunbubbles](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunbubbles)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-buy-just-copulins-do-pheros-expire-and-whats-best-for-a-first-impression/23856/1 "2008-12-11T15:04:41Z")

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OMG! Im sooooo confused right now! Ive been trying to find the answers on the boards but I cant find it directly. COPULINS ( Is that how you spell that? LOL) So you can buy JUST copulins? Where can I buy just copulins? The pheros like [Instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) or honesty, do they have copulins or no?

Also How long do the Pheros last? Do they have an expiration?  
So its possible to just mix them w/o them losing their potency? They dont diffuse when they touch air?

One more: Any suggestions on what to use if Im going to meet ppl and want to leave a better first impression?

Sorry for all the questions! Thanks in advance!:o

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-buy-just-copulins-do-pheros-expire-and-whats-best-for-a-first-impression/23856/2 "2008-12-11T15:46:51Z")

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Hello Sunbubbles-

I will try to answer most of the questions as best as I can.

Yes - copulins is how you smell - er .. spell it. LOL. I do not think you can buy just straight cops although something like Lust After Me may be pretty close. and given the smell you might not want to … Instead when you order products I think you can special order add them in at varying strengths. I say that because some ladies based on age or just their body chemistry do better with higher doses. But the ladies will be able to answer that part better.

The social products like [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), Ishine and IO do not have them. They are pretty much beta nols, alpha nols and TAA with a couple other steering pheros added in.

The pheros can last in the bottle for quite a while if you store them in a cool dry place - like someplace under the bathroom sink. Because they are alcohol based it does not take much for them to evaoprate if you leave them in some place hot like the car.

You do not really want to mix the consumer products. They are pre-dosed per spray in the bottle. Any mixing will dilute their strength and give you a phero mess. Better to layer one product at a time.

The products do diffuse in the air just like cologne. Do not worry though - they will smell stronger to you than they do to others. Everyone is a little self-conscious at first. Just give them a few minutes to dry down then cover with oyour usual perfume.

As far as meeting people and leaving a good impression - depends on what you mean by good impression in any given circumstance.

If you want to leave them with a happy good impression: Ishine

If you want to make connections and leave them with that good impression: Instant Honesty

If you want to leave them with a “she’s a hot momma” good impression: Instant Sexiness

Once you get a feel for each one, then you can combine.

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-buy-just-copulins-do-pheros-expire-and-whats-best-for-a-first-impression/23856/3 "2008-12-11T16:19:30Z")

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> [@Sunbubbles](#):
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> OMG! Im sooooo confused right now! Ive been trying to find the answers on the boards but I cant find it directly. COPULINS ( Is that how you spell that? LOL) So you can buy JUST copulins? Where can I buy just copulins? The pheros like Instant sexiness or honesty, do they have copulins or no?
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> Also How long do the Pheros last? Do they have an expiration?  
> So its possible to just mix them w/o them losing their potency? They dont diffuse when they touch air?

Products by Androtics that contain copulins are currently out of stock. You can buy straight copulins, called Essence of a Woman from LS, but there has been some complaints about their smell and efficiency lately. As a new [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) user, you probably don’t want to try to apply straight copulins anyway… they really stink… like rancid butt cheese… nasty.

When Androtics gets copulins back in stock they will let us know. At that time the copulin-containing products will be restocked and you can request extra copulins be added to your products when you order, just like you can request the scent.

As far as the exact formulation of Androtics products, they have let us know some of the ingredients, but most mixes are proprietary, so don’t expect a recipe… though many of us would like them!

The products that Androtics developed for consumers are stabilized and especially formulated to diffuse off your body at a pretty consistent rate. Usually these products last about 8 hours.

Try your products one at a time before you start trying to layer them. If you layer too many different types of products you can get a very confused pheromone signature and that can cause a ghosting effect, where everyone just ignores you - too much sensory overload, I guess.

Some of the test molecules and putatives are not stabilized (to my knowledge) and some of them need to be reapplied in 2-3 hours (like TAA). Some of the molecules are naturally sticky, and these need to be used with caution because of buildup and potential overdose, like Androstenone and maybe P96.

I hope this was helpful.

Diane

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-buy-just-copulins-do-pheros-expire-and-whats-best-for-a-first-impression/23856/4 "2008-12-11T16:25:47Z")

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> [@Sunbubbles](#):
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> One more: Any suggestions on what to use if Im going to meet ppl and want to leave a better first impression?

It depends on what type of impression you want to leave. There are lots of options to choose from! 😛

If you want to be seen as bubbly and easy to talk to, try Talk To Me.

If you want a general happy atmosphere, try Instant Shine or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/).

If you want to leave the impression of trustworthiness, try Instant Honesty.

If you want to leave the impression of being the high value, bubbly, center of the universe, try MX135, MX235, or MX335.

If you want to leave the impression of authority and competence, try MX134.

If you want to leave the impression of a sex kitten, try Instant Sexiness/B.

If you want to leave the impression of high value, sex goddess, try Instant Sexiness/A.

Diane

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**Author:** ![Sunbubbles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/35a633/32.png) [@Sunbubbles](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sunbubbles)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-buy-just-copulins-do-pheros-expire-and-whats-best-for-a-first-impression/23856/5 "2008-12-11T17:05:13Z")

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Thank You all soooo much for your replies. That really cleared up some of my questions!

I just received my order a little while ago. I ordered Instant Sexiness and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). They also gave me a “come talk to me” sample. I couldnt wait so I just sprayed it. I love the smell of that stuff! Kinda musky! oops I hope they didnt give me the one for men 😛
