# can you OD on Instant female magic? oh hell yes! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 22, 2008, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525 "2008-01-22T13:06:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525/1 "2008-01-22T13:06:16Z")
I always used to think that you can’t OD on [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) like you can’t OD on the -nols. and that it’s always beneficial to have IFM in a mix because you never know which woman you talk to will be on her ‘monthly punishment’. boy was I mistaken. aside from the male-depressing-effect of the Androstadienone in IFM, I realized that it can act as a repellent or irritant to women who are not on their period also. 😮 I stopped adding IFM in my mix 2 days ago and noticed a significant improvement in eye contact / attention and friendliness. my gf didn’t react any differently, but I’ve stopped gauging the effects of products on her as she’s been exposed to my pheromones arsenal for over 5 years so pretty much nothing fazes her now. (maybe instant jerk will get a little rise out of her…will test it) \*I think part of my mx103 testing was ruined by IFM…damn…have to redo it all over again. ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525/2 "2008-01-22T13:24:51Z")
would be great if you would elaborate more on what you mean by a [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) od. As you know instant jerk contains cops and your gf may pick up the sent of another woman 😮 that will “get a rise out of her” 😃 Actually i wouldn’t dare attempt wearing instant jerk around my gf ---
**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525/3 "2008-01-22T15:18:16Z")
IFM od: kinda similar to -none OD. instead of calming and comforting them, they act like they are irritated or annoyed, standoffish and lack of willingness to communicate. I was wearing roughly 3-4 sprays b4 I realized this. after I stopped adding it in my mix and went back to my usual Edge, NPA, IS, IH and A314 combo I noticed I am getting more eye contacts and the women I’ve met act more friendly and laugh more. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525/4 "2008-01-22T21:45:44Z")
Hmm Interesting what else were you wearing along with [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)? What if Instant Female Magic saved you from being bitten by your gal, instead she was just a little irritated or annoyed ha ha hsa.Seriously though iv never experienced anything negative from a woman as a result of ifm but iv occasionally experienced “irritation or annoyance” from girls with or without pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525/5 "2008-01-22T22:03:01Z")
I’ve long mentioned I saw little benefit to using chemset A-1 and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) for general walk-around use. Some guys claim it gits dem mo’ nookie. Unlike Jojo, I can’t say I’ve experienced negative reactions or OD with Instant Female Magic or A-1 outside the monthly punishment. Just zippo benefit. However when yo’ woman’s bleeding, hot damn it’s like magic! Nothing works better or faster at lifting her mood than a drop or 2 of A-1 or a zap of IFM. There is another possibility to Jojo’s woos. A-1 when exposed to sweat and bacteria breaks down to other pheromones: first androstenol and, finally, androstenone. Mayhaps the transformation to -none is responsible for the repellent or irritant traits. ---
**Author:** ![flaming](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flaming/32/212_2.png) [@flaming](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flaming)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525/6 "2008-01-22T22:17:30Z")
Gegogi how long does it take for A-1 to break down to androstenol then to androstenone? I imagine this process is hardly predictable being subject to climate changes and what not. What if A-1 was effecting jojobiz negatively and thats what annoyed his girl.I generally spray instant female magic way away from my own nose lol ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 1:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525/7 "2008-01-23T01:41:46Z")
It always works on my female supervisor no matter what time of month. She is always a bitch LOL I have never seen any women react badly to it either. Hmmm I must contemplate this. 😕 Ok all done, 😛 I agree with Gegogi, something happened to make it break down because those reactions are not in Androstadienone’s nature. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![LifeT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@LifeT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LifeT)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 3:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525/8 "2008-01-23T03:59:58Z")
I remember JVK mentioning in another post that -nol only breaks down to -none if it is applied to the arm pits as the bacterias there are different than the ones found on regular skin surface. to minimize the depressing effect I’ve always tried to spray IFM away from my face, mainly applied on the wrist. I tried back of the neck b4 and man for a while everytime I see my pillow I wanna kill myself lol. maybe A1 behaves differently when it comes to breaking down than -nols does. all I know is I won’t be using IFM indiscriminately from now on.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2008, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-female-magic-oh-hell-yes/8525/9 "2008-01-23T05:43:31Z")
Hmm, there is an article I just read–coauthored by JVK–that mentions androstenol to androstenone breakdown can happen in about 20 minutes. [Articles - Pheromone Thesis](http://www.gflweb.com/sex-pheromone-thesis.html) A quote from the above mentioned article: > [@](#): > > A less odorous male could out reproduce a more odorous male, simply because he could approach more females in less time and with less energy. This only holds if the costs of the more odorous androstenone production are greater than the benefits reached through producing the more sexually attractive androstenol. As androstenol oxidizes to androstenone the initial attractive signal becomes repellent. Because this effect takes place within 20 minutes, a less odorous male would be better off, since the repellent smell of androstenone is the long-term prevailing signal. If androstenone is a signal for females, then what advantages do more odorous males have?