# can you OD on instant shine??? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 17, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-shine/52397 "2011-09-17T18:29:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alex398](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/77aa72/32.png) [@alex398](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alex398)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-shine/52397/1 "2011-09-17T18:29:47Z")
I dont think this question has been asked recently at all, youd think it would have tho. So, can you OD on IS? And if you can what in the world does it do? I am extremely curious as im sure many other people are also. ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-shine/52397/2 "2011-09-17T18:41:15Z")
Theoretically speaking, it MIGHT be possible. However someone used up to 800 mcg and never OD’d. Experimentally speaking, You can’t really OD from ISHINE or any socials (IO, IH & IS) ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-shine/52397/3 "2011-09-17T21:25:09Z")
you can’t OD with the socials in the same sense that you can with eNone products but iv had negative reactions with too much IO which was loss of respect and treated a bit beta, too much IH people tend to shut down and not really want to talk, to much IS can give me a mild headache but these are just my experience’s. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-shine/52397/4 "2011-09-17T22:23:59Z")
I don’t know if it’s an OD, but I have a max tolerance of three TOGO! sprays of IShine. It doesn’t agree with me and doesn’t lift my mood. I wear it for the effects on others and giving my friends a little happy boost. 4 sprays and I’m serious - as in a serious mood. That point and over leaves me feeling emotionally drained, fragile and exhausted. Over 4 sprays always makes me cry for no reason (apart from the Shine). I just wear 2 sprays now, on my hands, for my friends’ benefit. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-shine/52397/5 "2011-09-18T23:14:14Z")
Try searching for - “IS crash” I think you will find past discussion on that. What I find is not OD in the none sense but if I’m wearing hi-dose IS (4-sprays or more) and topping-up, is that after a while, (6-8hrs) I will start to feel a bit burned out/drained, and sometimes headachy and tired. Usually a rest, a quick wash and some decent food will offset this pretty quick. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-shine/52397/6 "2011-09-20T04:57:58Z")
Its most certainly possible to OD on socials IMO…I’ve done it plenty of times. When you catch yourself running your mouth and goofing off more than you should, you’ve OD’d on socials. It can create a lot of social carelessness. It is kind of fun when it happens, as you still seem to have a positive impact on people, but it can completely lower your own social inhibitions and make you say and do off the wall things. Be particularly careful not to OD on beta androstenol. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 9:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-shine/52397/7 "2011-09-20T09:21:52Z")
OD means “Opposite of Desired” effect. This is shown by over aggression. Moody people, “Ghosting” which is people avoid or ignore you. You really cant have a classic OD caused by the actual [pheromone](https://a314.com/) with the socials. You could over scent in which case people will avoid you because of the smell but since neroli drys down light it takes a ton of it before that occurs. With high amount of certain socials you can see a change in effect. For instance Spaceland which is just 50 mcg’s of anol. You can get a more goofy fun sort of vibe. To much (over 100 to 150 mcg’s) and people tend to zone out. Keep in mind to see that effect in something like IO or IH which both contain anol in certain ratios you would need 10 to 15 sprays. For the user \>\>\>\> Using to much Ishine is akin to drinking a red bull. It activates the same NT’s as caffeine pretty much. You would experience a large high (energy and euphoria feeling) followed by a drop. Mild headache and tiredness. However people’s bodies tend to adapt to caffeine which is far more dangerous because your ingesting it and it effects other systems in the body. People quickly adjust to Ishine as well. Others wont get the same effect as the user who is exposed far more to the molecule. They react with a feeling of warmth and elevated mood which they connect to you causing a magnetic effect. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-instant-shine/52397/8 "2011-09-20T11:59:35Z")
YES. If you wear too much instant shine you might become…TOO HAPPY. The smile muscles will start to get too strong and could literally rip your cheeks. It happened to the joker…it could happen to you.