# can you OD on shine? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 1, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453 "2012-05-01T15:32:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/1 "2012-05-01T15:32:09Z")
I am curious because I feel like after three sprays of double shine either people dont seem to respond the same, but then I dont know if it is just too over powering in scent from the neroli or if it is all in my head… Anybody experience lack of comfort from too much shine? I am going to tone it down to one spray in the morning and then another in the afternoon for the rest of the week regardless. ---
**Author:** ![relativity](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/relativity/32/901_2.png) [@relativity](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/relativity)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/2 "2012-05-01T19:37:36Z")
> [@ferrucci](#): > > I am curious because I feel like after three sprays of double shine either people dont seem to respond the same, but then I dont know if it is just too over powering in scent from the neroli or if it is all in my head… Anybody experience lack of comfort from too much shine? I am going to tone it down to one spray in the morning and then another in the afternoon for the rest of the week regardless. When I was trying to find my IS sweet spot I wasn’t noticing a ton of effects on others as a standalone product, but in mixes I’ve found that 3-4 sprays usually gets the job done so I don’t use more than that in the name of conserving my bottles. Never have gone past 5 sprays but I definitely didn’t notice an OD effect at 5. Generally it’s pretty hard to to OD on socials, but if you aren’t noticing improved effects with more sprays you might as well take a step back. If nothing else, your bottle will last longer. ---
**Author:** ![sweetybirdy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sweetybirdy/32/1524_2.png) [@sweetybirdy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sweetybirdy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/3 "2012-05-01T20:22:26Z")
I have been reading many journals about shine, but I haven’t seen reports of ODs yet. The highest dosage of IS that I’ve read was about 3sprays of 2X strength. People didn’t really play crazy on the dosage of IS. Maybe you could try and then report to us 😛 Me, my highest dosage was 5sprays of togo (i.e. 12.5 mcg X 5) The result wasn’t very different from 3 sprays though. By the way, if you spray too much, you will very likely to be overscent which also drives people away, but it’s not OD. ---
**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/4 "2012-05-01T21:57:21Z")
yeah i think it is just overscent.. ive found better results on less just the same as everyone else writes… less is more.. ---
**Author:** ![sweetybirdy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sweetybirdy/32/1524_2.png) [@sweetybirdy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sweetybirdy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/5 "2012-05-01T22:07:24Z")
> [@ferrucci](#): > > yeah i think it is just overscent.. ive found better results on less just the same as everyone else writes… less is more.. For me, I find the result the same after I go over 3 sprays. How is the result better when you use less? ---
**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/6 "2012-05-01T22:10:19Z")
well its just a saying.. if you use less it lasts longer in the long run and you dont run the risk of overscent. I was just simply agreeing that a few sprays is enough and that moderation is a good thing. not necessarily better effect if you use less… ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/7 "2012-05-01T23:32:05Z")
I think I’d OD on self effects with that amount of shine. ---
**Author:** ![sweetybirdy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sweetybirdy/32/1524_2.png) [@sweetybirdy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sweetybirdy)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/8 "2012-05-02T00:13:26Z")
> [@romodinho](#): > > I think I’d OD on self effects with that amount of shine. How so? like a hyper rush and then an humongous crash? 😃 I could imagine that if I was not at a very good state on that day, such as lack of sleeping ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/9 "2012-05-02T02:06:47Z")
> [@ferrucci](#): > > I am curious because I feel like after three sprays of double shine either people dont seem to respond the same, but then I dont know if it is just too over powering in scent from the neroli or if it is all in my head… Anybody experience lack of comfort from too much shine? I am going to tone it down to one spray in the morning and then another in the afternoon for the rest of the week regardless. I can feel grotty on IS after several hours of exposure at high dose - 4-6 sprays 2x plus a topup would certainly do that to me, so your 3 sprays is getting there. Also remember that self effects from IS are most pronounced when you start using it and will settle down after a while. If you search “IS Crash” you will find several threads discussing it and various offset strategies. Personally, I try to keep-up my electrolytes and get some decent food. Also, if alcohol is involved, breaking that with soft drinks/coffee does help. And lastly, a good rest bit of sleep will sort it entirely. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 11:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/10 "2012-05-02T11:48:17Z")
I’ve never noticed a true “crash” from IS. I feel in such a good mood that I’m almost buzzed if I spray 2s to my neck. That said, I wear mones (with the exception of a314, which I just started) pretty infrequently. My tolerance for self effects is pretty damn low. ---
**Author:** ![sweetybirdy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sweetybirdy/32/1524_2.png) [@sweetybirdy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sweetybirdy)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/11 "2012-05-02T11:52:00Z")
> [@romodinho](#): > > I’ve never noticed a true “crash” from IS. I feel in such a good mood that I’m almost buzzed if I spray 2s to my neck. That said, I wear mones (with the exception of a314, which I just started) pretty infrequently. My tolerance for self effects is pretty damn low. I wish I have low tolerance on self effects too. I am so jealous of those who always get high from IS LOL ---
**Author:** ![Hydro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hydro/32/329_2.png) [@Hydro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hydro)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/12 "2012-05-02T11:56:32Z")
> [@sweetybirdy](#): > > I am so jealous of those who always get high from IS LOL I’ll second that. I had great self effects when I first got IS, and that initial rush. Unfortunately, not any more ☹ Still works great on others 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 12:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/13 "2012-05-02T12:13:44Z")
Although the self effects with Shine are awesome, I wouldn’t mind them wearing off. The effect on others is what I’m looking for. But, I think when you have positive self effects, it demonstrates congruency with the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) you are wearing. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/14 "2012-05-02T12:20:28Z")
They will - Of any phero I’ve used so far, IS is the one I became innured to fastest and quite a number of others have reported similar. ---
**Author:** ![classicalflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@classicalflower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/classicalflower)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/15 "2012-05-02T15:18:54Z")
In general I don’t wear any pheromone for more than two or three days before taking a good break because I really like the self effects and i’d like to keep it that way! So far its been working - wearing mones for approximately 6 months and everything still effects me like it first did… apart from the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) headrush which thankfully has abated! ---
**Author:** ![Laguna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@Laguna](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Laguna)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/16 "2012-05-02T15:46:23Z")
I used about 7-10 sprays of 2x IS before to a birthday party. Seemed to lighten up the people. I was also tired before, but didn’t notice it during the party (most likely the Redbull Vodka and not IS lol). However, my gf and I felt tired back at my place, but neither of us could fall asleep no matter how long we laid in bed. For a different reason, I looked up journals on IS and people have mentioned not being able to sleep with too much IS. I would call that an OD… ---
**Author:** ![classicalflower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@classicalflower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/classicalflower)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/17 "2012-05-02T15:58:38Z")
> [@Laguna](#): > > I used about 7-10 sprays of 2x IS before to a birthday party. Seemed to lighten up the people. I was also tired before, but didn’t notice it during the party (most likely the Redbull Vodka and not IS lol). However, my gf and I felt tired back at my place, but neither of us could fall asleep no matter how long we laid in bed. For a different reason, I looked up journals on IS and people have mentioned not being able to sleep with too much IS. I would call that an OD… Wow that’s a serious amount of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)… surprised I didn’t feel the effects from here!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SocialNinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SocialNinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SocialNinja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 4:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/18 "2012-05-02T16:22:02Z")
awesome thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/6bbea6/32.png) [@Zombie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zombie)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/19 "2012-05-04T17:09:40Z")
I recently put on about 4-5 sprays of IS before a job interview. The interviewer was a stingy older lady who tried to strike fear into applicants. While she certainly seemed to lighten up within 5 minutes of meeting me, it was almost to uncomfortable levels. She was chatting and laughing it up like we were old friends. It was honestly unsettling to me and the others. However this may have been due to situation rather than dosage, as when I needed professional fear I exuded happy good times. I still got the job though so that might’ve been a good thing. ---
**Author:** ![romodinho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d26b3c/32.png) [@romodinho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/romodinho)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2012, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453/20 "2012-05-04T17:14:32Z")
Nicely done. Best interview mix IMO is mixing a314 with shine. It gets the comfort up, but maintains professionalism. > [@Zombie](#): > > I recently put on about 4-5 sprays of IS before a job interview. The interviewer was a stingy older lady who tried to strike fear into applicants. While she certainly seemed to lighten up within 5 minutes of meeting me, it was almost to uncomfortable levels. She was chatting and laughing it up like we were old friends. It was honestly unsettling to me and the others. > > However this may have been due to situation rather than dosage, as when I needed professional fear I exuded happy good times. I still got the job though so that might’ve been a good thing. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-you-od-on-shine/55453.md?page=2)