# Can't believe I'm doing this.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [May 6, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238 "2008-05-06T14:29:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/41 "2008-05-21T02:46:03Z")

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I keep mine in a giant zip lock bag in the center console. It might get warm, but never hot. Although, maybe I should consider not keeping them in the car, I like having my entire lab with me at all times 😃. Either way, the pheromones seem to have been okay so far.

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/42 "2008-05-22T07:04:11Z")

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I really, REALLY want a bottle of 8x [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/).

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/43 "2008-05-22T18:32:27Z")

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Any reason why? 😃

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/44 "2008-05-23T05:50:14Z")

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I distributed 7 sprays of 4x [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) all around (neck, wrists, hair), and in all honesty (pun intended ;p) I didn’t have ONE conversation that just revolved around small talk. Every single person today added way more depth and soul into their conversation, the type of genuinity you’d expect from your family members. There was just this high end level of comfort that everyone (who spent at least 5 minutes around me so the Instant Honesty could take its effect) shared with me. It’s not the type of bondish comfort associated with P74, its just this family type warmth (in extreme doses at least) that people just generate subconsciously, and conversations just seemed to hold so much more value when people are genuinely talking about their daily life instead of the whole typical ‘for the sake of passing time talk about my day’ that you see from everyone from your neighbors to your co-workers on a day-to-day basis. This is quite the rant, but so far I gotta say extreme doses of beta androstenol is currently my favorite type of ‘hit’.

One thing to take into consideration, was that I wasn’t on bad terms with any of the people that I interacted with (well not that I completely know of). I do want to see how people, that may not be too fond of me, react subconsciously (and consciously) to such high levels. Will they fidget around with props or avoid eye contact? I just really want to see how they act in reaction to their subconscious mind saying one thing, and their conscious saying another. Are these high levels _that_ strong that it elicits behavior in accordance to their conscious giving into their subconscious feelings of comfort? Because so far, majority of the products aren’t _that_ strong that a person’s mind can’t just simply block it out and suppress the feelings that phero’s usually elicit.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2008, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/45 "2008-05-23T20:36:03Z")

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It’s hard to name a favorite product when it comes to pheromones, but IH and IS are at the top of the list without a doubt.

I barely wear IO, I find the conversations with IH are much more fulfilling. I actually find myself not wanting to talk with IO on because I desperately want to avoid talking about what was on ESPN this morning, etc… 😛

I haven’t really worn it around people that don’t like me, but my opinion is that if there are people you socialize around/with that don’t like you enough to want to verbalize it, but haven’t, they probably won’t unless pushed to do so because of whatever reservations they maintain currently (not burning bridges, want something from you, scared, etc..)

However, the honesty may change your behavior as well, and if you are picking up that someone is being fake and actually doesn’t enjoy your company, then you may behave more harshly/aggressively towards that person (you being more honest), which might push the other person to show their hand and be more honest in turn.

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/46 "2008-07-03T03:45:17Z")

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Never use TAA in studying atmospheres. It kills the momentum of progress in a study group, and just ends up being a huge laugh and mess around session. A lot like TAC+P79 except that it’s a lot less individualized, and more-so a group atmosphere thing. Sprayed a total of 30 MCG in the middle of my study group session today, and within 20 minutes everyone got up to take a break, and we never got back into the groove again. Again, just became a huge story and mess around session. There’s good reason why [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is OK in classroom atmospheres, but TAA definitely is not.

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/47 "2008-07-03T03:53:43Z")

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TAA is by far a top 5 product for me, but it’s not better than [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). P74 is a top 3 product. I feel that my confidence and respect level with P74 is way more blatant than with even MX103. It’s a 2nd best in regards to status after A314. Only drawback is that it needs some beta androstenol used along with it. TAL and alpha androstenol can also be used to pair up with P74, but I find beta androstenol the most effective. Again, status +++.

However, even though it’s tempting to use everyday, you just can’t. P74 burns me out faster than any other product, and that’s why I feel there’s definitely some of it mixed in with MX271. I wonder if it’s the same case with MX272 and MX273? I received them both along with a 50mcg spray of TAA today, so I’ll make a public report regarding those two once I get around to testing them.

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/48 "2008-07-03T04:04:47Z")

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The only product that I’m still kind of iffy about, is MX150. I received this a while back, but only used it on 4 separate occasions. The first time I tried it, I definitely liked the smell, a little sweet but not overly perfumey like [MX203](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx203/). The problem with this MX, is that it’s inconsistent. The most blatant hit I had was prolonged eye contact by all the women in my vicinity at the gym, I was sweaty and I’m sure it sped up the diffusion by quite a bit, on top of the huge fans blowing everything around. On other occasions, the only consistent thing I noticed was increased sensuality. Women loved being around, but not entirely in a sexual nor social way. For the girl that I’m seeing, it was more so like slowly biting into a piece of dark chocolate; and enjoying the conversation without really knowing why they felt they like they could just melt at any second the more I spoke and gave her attention. But other than that, strangers didn’t really show any more added interest than usual, and I didn’t notice anything from men either.

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2008, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/49 "2008-07-07T05:43:11Z")

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Wanna be evil?

Walk into a library with 200 mcg TAA. People around you will either:  
A.) Lose focus and leave  
B.) The close one’s who aren’t conditioned to TAA will burn out their neurotransmitters within a couple of hours, and leave.

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/50 "2008-07-10T05:08:56Z")

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If wanting to increase focus on tasks to be done without getting distracted, always remember to keep your TAF doses low. Or else it’s worse than ADD.

Lifted weights from 5:30-6:40, showered, then 5mcg TAF straight to the throat. Went from 7pm to 12am consecutively of Endocrine pathophysiology, with only bathroom breaks in between. I did this on my bed, rather than my desk, and didn’t even think twice about taking a nap.

As long as you keep your will power strong to keep your task priority #1, TAF is golden.

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/51 "2008-07-12T02:19:38Z")

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Big updates on MX272 and MX273 coming soon! These things are so damn versatile, use them with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)/TUTH at the night scene or just by themselves at a family reunion!

The best none buffers I’ve used to date.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2008, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/52 "2008-07-12T19:58:11Z")

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Well, then..quit holdin back! 🙂 Spill dem beans…

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/53 "2008-07-18T05:21:35Z")

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=) I will! I was going to make a big thread on MX272 by itself like I did with the MX271, but am just going to wait until I finish testing MX273. That way I can compare them all thoroughly in one thread.

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/54 "2008-07-18T05:22:01Z")

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A couple of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) notes to keep for later reference:

> [@In search of the perfect P83 and P86 combo](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/in-search-of-the-perfect-p83-and-p86-combo/15715/3):
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> You really have to be careful with P83. It’s definitely something you can’t use in all environments, and must be buffered well. It’s like injecting the Id part of the psyche of the people around you with steroids, and having it dominate the superego. Which results in stronger instinctive urges, sex, aggression, and other primary processes. The higher dose you use, the more repressed your moral compass insisting on socially acceptable behavior becomes. This can also result in strong headaches if in high doses.

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**Author:** ![BlackGregg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f17d59/32.png) [@BlackGregg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BlackGregg)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/55 "2008-07-23T07:59:36Z")

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yeah man you need to start reporting days this journal is suppose to be a journal full of women sex and living ‘the life’ i had to scim through 6 pages of conversation and arguments and shit to find nothing

step it up

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2008, 9:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/56 "2008-07-23T09:19:43Z")

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Big reports I keep for the public forum. I use the journal more-so for mental notes for myself.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/57 "2008-07-25T20:39:56Z")

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> [@BlackGregg](#):
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> yeah man you need to start reporting days this journal is suppose to be a journal full of women sex and living ‘the life’ i had to scim through 6 pages of conversation and arguments and shit to find nothing
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> step it up

Lol…oookay. 🙂 Look who’s talking? 😃 Go hit up some more milfs and come back and tell us about it a few months later. 🙄

But I agree, hurry up tmoz. 🙂

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**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/58 "2008-07-26T01:00:23Z")

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Yeah tmoz buddy, i agreed with Phya that you got to hurry up with your reports as i’m waiting for it too 🙂

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/59 "2008-07-26T01:07:48Z")

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> [@MX275 and MX276: Dark Euphoria?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx275-and-mx276-dark-euphoria/16106/9):
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> In my last paragraph I tried to compare the two to MX271-3 the best way I could based off my initial trials of 275 and 276. In a nutshell, these two new mixes are less social but a much larger attractant. MX275 also has stronger self-effects, whereas MX276 seemed a little more subtle. The scent smells like Game scent.

Shorter, and not as thorough as [MX271: I'm A Smooth Player](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx271-im-a-smooth-player/14009) only because I haven’t had too much experience with these two new mixes yet.

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**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-believe-im-doing-this/12238/60 "2008-07-26T01:08:31Z")

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And don’t laugh at the thread title, it was 3 in the morning when I made the report. Dark Euphoria sounds like a cheap episode of Sailor Moon.

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