# Can't wear enone anymore **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 24, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-wear-enone-anymore/67245 "2017-06-24T16:21:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-wear-enone-anymore/67245/1 "2017-06-24T16:21:42Z")
I used to love heavy sexual products for bars/nightclubs but I cannot tolerate enone anymore. When I wear it I feel a wired kind of anxiety where I just can’t relax and I feel jumpy. Then when I go to sleep I sleep for an hour or two and after that I’m wide awake. The entire next day I’m exhausted and my day is ruined. I used to be able to counter this enone anxiety with A1 because A1 used to give me lethargy. But my A1 lethargy is completely gone so this doesn’t work any longer. I also tried to counter the enone anxiety with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) but that did not work either. I was wide awake almost all night even after I showered with scent-away before I went to bed. This is very sad to me because enone has been very important to me in nightclubs to get attention from women. Sure lots of the attention is negative and some women who don’t like enone think I’m creepy. But some women love enone and if I can come across as a confident/attractive man some of these women will sleep with me. What putative can I substitute for enone to achieve this same effect? ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-wear-enone-anymore/67245/2 "2017-06-24T16:33:09Z")
Sorry to hear that man. I personally cannot think of a single putative that worked like ENone for me.. I mean ENone is what gets women hot. However, disinhibitors mixed with good steering putatives can get you there.. stuff like p83 or TAC. I’ve tried both and felt I had better luck with TAC. Personally, if I could not wear ENone anymore I’d probably do eRone/TAC for Hispanic/Asian women and p93/TAC for white women. And then some other putative for steering the mood (whether playful, or dark, etc.) I find that black women love ENone so if I had to go without it, I’d just use TAC and some steering putative to just make it more playful. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-wear-enone-anymore/67245/3 "2017-06-24T16:59:06Z")
Hm, I have old bottles of [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and TAC gathering dust. Maybe its time to break them out and give them a try. Maybe a BNOL/P83/TAC combo can be sexually arousing to certain women. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-wear-enone-anymore/67245/4 "2017-06-24T17:02:42Z")
Couple of related threads I have found: > [@What is the best -none alternative? p79, p83, p86, p88, p93](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-is-the-best-none-alternative-p79-p83-p86-p88-p93/41913): > > Hello, I’m pretty sure that I naturally produce enough of my own -none naturally. Since it seems that most pheromones oxidize into -none anyway, I would rather not wear it on purpose, and put off people that are sensitive. I know that most of the putatives that I listed are not available, but I’m looking for a reference point for the future. So that when I read “p667 is just like p88 only better!” I have a better understanding of what that means. I think that I may need to create my own mixes… > [@P75: I am a Man, in BED too.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p75-i-am-a-man-in-bed-too/39593): > > I am in love with [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/). In my opinion, it is one of the most versatile Putatives that is available to us as men. I made a post about it quieting my negative inner talk, and I appreciate it for that reason. Lately though I have been using it in my SexBrews with awesome results. I do not want to bore you with nasty and raunchy details of my sexual activities, so I will just make a short list of things I have noticed with usage. It is best in a slow burning, long exposure mix. It does not give ins… > [@Found a base mix I personally enjoy (P75 + P83 + TAC). Would like some ideas.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/found-a-base-mix-i-personally-enjoy-p75-p83-tac-would-like-some-ideas/64816): > > I recently grabbed a few pocket atomizers. My original plan was to put some of the “ready-use” scents (IS, Ammo S, TUTH, etc.) into respective bottles, but I postponed that idea for a bit after realizing that carrying multiple bottles could be a bit cumbersome, and instead decided to mix multiple mones into a single bottle. This is what I ended up with: P75 2.5 mcg x 4 sprays P83 5 mcg x 4 sprays TAC 5 mcg x 6 sprays Extra eau de toilette x 10\* sprays This is a different, smaller … ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 5:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-wear-enone-anymore/67245/5 "2017-06-24T17:53:35Z")
> [@metalTree](#): > > Maybe a BNOL/P83/TAC combo can be sexually arousing to certain women. I see this especially beneficial for Caucasian women. At least for myself. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-wear-enone-anymore/67245/6 "2017-06-24T17:54:31Z")
Yes I see p75. I’ve heard quite a bit about that one but never tried it. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-wear-enone-anymore/67245/7 "2017-06-24T17:56:44Z")
Have you tried boosting your own [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) signature? Multivitamins, especially zinc, vitamin e, even eating celery can help you in this area. ---
**Author:** ![datadragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/datadragon/32/1252_2.png) [@datadragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/datadragon)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cant-wear-enone-anymore/67245/8 "2018-01-15T17:07:47Z")
> [@metalTree](#): > > I used to love heavy sexual products for bars/nightclubs but I cannot tolerate enone anymore. When I wear it I feel a wired kind of anxiety where I just can’t relax and I feel jumpy. Then when I go to sleep I sleep for an hour or two and after that I’m wide awake. The entire next day I’m exhausted and my day is ruined. > > I used to be able to counter this enone anxiety with A1 because A1 used to give me lethargy. But my A1 lethargy is completely gone so this doesn’t work any longer. > > I also tried to counter the enone anxiety with P75 but that did not work either. I was wide awake almost all night even after I showered with scent-away before I went to bed. > > This is very sad to me because enone has been very important to me in nightclubs to get attention from women. Sure lots of the attention is negative and some women who don’t like enone think I’m creepy. But some women love enone and if I can come across as a confident/attractive man some of these women will sleep with me. > > What putative can I substitute for enone to achieve this same effect? For sexual attraction, copulins in a good dose I’ve found work great to boost sexual desire even more. MUSKS may work. I’ve found that colognes that had them even without [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) had a sexual effect. P130 can kill anxiety, maybe make you more calm and relaxed and buffer some of the issues with your enone. TAC also has some relax properties and a fun vibe and might help in combo trying with TUTH for example. If you make it to the bedroom, TAC can enhance a womans ability to orgasm easier, harder, and more often and make them more wet and aroused. P77 might get peoples mind on sex, havent tried it. I would stay away from A1 completely for a bit if you are feeling anxiety, OCD or depression. You might try 5-HTP in low dose for a bit which would bypass some of the conversion that your body may be lacking nutrients such as Zinc, B6, Magnesium and Copper to make serotonin for example, or possibly some Astaxanthin or TMG 750 may also boost serotonin, TMG also gets rid of some excess estrogen… People who have all the nutrients really can just eat more protein which has the L-Tryptophan that will get converted into 5-HTP. People with higher T tend to have more serotonin. Androstenone works best around ovulation, especially those women who smell it as urinous… You may find things like P96 to work well around other times and blends that swoon…