# Catlord's Pheromone Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [April 2, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474 "2010-04-02T17:25:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2010, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/101 "2010-07-04T05:00:36Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Catlord, > > I have to say that from reading your journal and the basic correlations you made with Pheromones and the elemental aspect of astrology, I’ve been having great success with Androsterone mixes and they’ve been the foundations of everything I use today and it’s complemented me very well. > > So a Big Thank You! By all means, my friend, in the name of astro-phero-logy, let’s hear more details. What can we learn from your experiences? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/102 "2010-07-04T05:17:42Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > By all means, my friend, in the name of astro-phero-logy, let’s hear more details. What can we learn from your experiences? I did my birth chart and my elemental reading said that Earth was strong, fire was weak. So based on what you wrote before. Earth was more correlated with Androsterone and business and pragmatism. I’ve been using Androsterone based product to help boost that. Now we all know that A314 works well in businesses. What strikes me the best is I get Androstenone like results with very very little Androstenone with higher Androsterone dosages with Androstenol additions have given me more IOI’s and lasting impressions with women. I would normally have 2.5 mcg of Androstenone on me and things got sexual as much as me wearing 30mcg of Androstenone (MX301). I always thought that to get sexual responses, Androstenone would have to always ben in the mix but I found that with my personality, Androsterone was equally as effective. It could be that with my personality the extra alpha appeal turned women on. I’m still in the infancy of this testing. I also have to understand more about Astrology to prove/disprove any of my findings. But either way I enjoy reading your Journal and theories, they definitely have great potential. Now all I need to learn is how to base mixes on specific women and test it out that way. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/103 "2010-07-06T04:02:21Z")
My chart is primarily composed of Earth and Fire, with a sprinkle of Air and Water. This suggests I would do well, if we theorize that elements can indicate amounts in addition to pheromones, with a mix composed primarily of pheromones which have primarily Earth and Fire associations. P75 by itself works very well for me. In my chart, water only hows on the ascendant and Saturn placements. Let us therefore theorize that either it is not, in fact, a Water association, or that one or more pheromones of whatever element the Saturn placement is connected to will be significantly lacking in the natural pheromone signature. P75 is strong, masculine, sexual. But is it aggressive? It can be, and it seems I may have mis-classified this one. Or perhaps this one is special and needs a dual classification. Perhaps we should consider this one as ruled by a para-element, composed of two other elements? In this case, probably Fire and Water, which produce steam, of course. Para-elements are unusual astrologically, although they are very useful. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/104 "2010-07-13T06:56:43Z")
I am noticing an interesting pattern of events. For me, 4 sprays of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) seems to work best for a blatantly sexual arousal response by the ladies; but if I want to wear TUTH, 1 or 3 sprays always works best. Usually 1. IJ seems to attract the ladies in their mid twenties and older; TUTH - especially at 1 spray - works amazingly well on younger women, and quite well on many middle aged women too. I’m having a hard time figuring this out. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/105 "2010-07-13T18:31:05Z")
Further research has shown that when a woman of fairly normal moral integrity finds herself in a situation where she is involved and severely tempted by sexual attraction to a different person, she will tend to respond with interest until she realizes that she is doing so beyond the boundaries of her moral limits, at which time she will likely stay in her relationship and shut down the attraction within herself if possible, retreating into professionalism or intellectual rationality; however, continued exposure to the temptation and attraction will eventually wear this away, and she will more than likely act on her attraction in some way that she will later regret unless she makes a clean break from her existing relationship first. This entire process may require a month or two if the exposure is regular and maintained as a temptation at roughly the same level, or an increasing level will shorten the time. Maintaining the level of attraction as a constant will result in a response that falls out according to the level and type of attraction. In English: most women will eventually succumb to temptation, but if the temptation is purely sexual, they will not be interested for long after succumbing, and it will probably damage or destroy whatever other options may have been previously present for other interactions after she does succumb. Therefore, effective artificial stimulation of her sexual arousal of a sustained nature will probably lead to sex, at the cost of knowing the woman. If the man is perceived as having high enough value, she may attempt a change from primarily sexual response to primarily romantic to balance the situation and keep things going, instead of just allowing the whole thing to die. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/106 "2010-07-13T20:22:29Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Further research has shown that when a woman of fairly normal moral integrity finds herself in a situation where she is involved and severely tempted by sexual attraction to a different person, she will tend to respond with interest until she realizes that she is doing so beyond the boundaries of her moral limits, at which time she will either stay in her relationship and shut down the attraction within herself if possible, retreating into professionalism or intellectual rationality; however, continued exposure to the temptation and attraction will eventually wear this away, and she will more than likely act on her attraction in some way that she will later regret unless she makes a clean break from her existing relationship first. > > This entire process may require a month or two if the exposure is regular and maintained as a temptation at roughly the same level, or an increasing level will shorten the time. Maintaining the level of attraction as a constant will result in a response that falls out according to the level and type of attraction. > > In English: most women will eventually succumb to temptation, but if the temptation is purely sexual, they will not be interested for long after succumbing, and it will probably damage or destroy whatever other options may have been previously present for other interactions after she does succumb. Therefore, effective artificial stimulation of her sexual arousal of a sustained nature will probably lead to sex, at the cost of knowing the woman. > > If the man is perceived as having high enough value, she may attempt a change from primarily sexual response to primarily romantic to balance the situation and keep things going, instead of just allowing the whole thing to die. This was part of your slow burn tests catlord? ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/107 "2010-07-14T05:03:51Z")
If you haven’t given it a go yet, A314 and [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) oddly pair very well together for me. I did it by accident one day not paying attention, and was quite impressed. I think I had shine on too though, but I definitely felt the P75 working in the mix. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/108 "2010-07-14T05:04:43Z")
I did that today at 2.5 mcg’s it ended up being slow so I have to try again. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/109 "2010-07-15T14:44:07Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > This was part of your slow burn tests catlord? No. Slow burn test on hold while life crashes down around me, and my test subject. This is part of similar, but unrelated research. Doesn’t seem to be very impressive result, but it does make good sense. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/110 "2010-07-15T14:45:19Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > If you haven’t given it a go yet, A314 and P75 oddly pair very well together for me. I did it by accident one day not paying attention, and was quite impressed. I think I had shine on too though, but I definitely felt the P75 working in the mix. That has been flittering on the periphery of my mind lately, that mix, thanks for suggesting it. It sounds like it would be good together. What dosage levels of each work best for you? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/111 "2010-07-15T17:05:16Z")
Hope everything works out well for you catlord. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/112 "2010-07-16T08:19:48Z")
Thanks, man. It will. It’s just kinda like driving and having boulders and trees fall in your path. They’ll be cleared eventually; it’s just an enforced delay. I am really over these enforced delays though, by now… it’s been three months with this crap at every turn. But, since I cannot control the universe, I guess I’ll just continue being patient. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/113 "2010-07-16T14:19:03Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > That has been flittering on the periphery of my mind lately, that mix, thanks for suggesting it. It sounds like it would be good together. What dosage levels of each work best for you? I used 2 drops A314 with 2.5mcg [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/). Tell me what you think when you get the chance to test it! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/114 "2010-07-16T18:43:06Z")
Hey catlord, I had a pretty interesting experience on P78 the other day. > [@P51Mustang's Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/28): > > So I tested today good ol P78 I knew I read about it but honestly didn’t remember what it said. Well I was in for a shock Mix was A314(2) + IS 2x(2) + AMMO (1) + P78 20mcg BIG BIG mistake wearing it to work today. I was wearing about 20 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) of this stuff and man when I was driving, I felt a phero rush, but wasn’t like the one I got from P75, it was more of like anxietyish. I thought it might have been the redbull that I was drinking that got me an anxious feeling but it had to have been… Have you done any research on its effects with women? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/115 "2010-07-16T20:24:31Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Hey catlord, > > I had a pretty interesting experience on P78 the other day. > > [P51Mustang's Journal - #28 by P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p51mustangs-journal/38913/28) > > Have you done any research on its effects with women? not yet. Bu, I put on 20 mcg and it seems to have made me more relaxed mentally and more talkative. I believe Wildflower was telling me about how this molecule reminds him of the nols, and I get that, but its not as blathery and spacey so far. I may be going out tonight, so we shall see. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/116 "2010-07-16T21:48:15Z")
I had an idea for a mix while falling asleep last night, which usually means it’s a good idea. P75: 2.5 mcg per dose Androstenone: 10 mcg per dose [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/): 30 mcg per dose Beta nol: 7.5 mcg per dose Haven’t tried it ye, but sounds good. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/117 "2010-07-17T01:27:45Z")
You think I can sub TUTH for none and IH for b nol? I got the rest I might try this out tonight ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/118 "2010-07-17T06:12:37Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > You think I can sub TUTH for none and IH for b nol? > > I got the rest I might try this out tonight TUTH isn’t just None. It’ll ill the mix… as it is. But hell, try it. It might be good! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/119 "2010-07-17T07:25:56Z")
I just made this mix I’m going to PM it to you and see what you think ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474/120 "2010-07-17T13:54:13Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I had an idea for a mix while falling asleep last night, which usually means it’s a good idea. > > P75: 2.5 mcg per dose > Androstenone: 10 mcg per dose > P83: 30 mcg per dose > Beta nol: 7.5 mcg per dose > > Haven’t tried it ye, but sounds good. I’ve tried something very similar, except I had A-rone instead of a-none. It worked pretty good from what I remember. Lots of confidence, not much anxiety, and good rapport from other people. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/catlords-pheromone-journal/37474.md?page=7)