# CelticPrince's Aeriform Subterfuge **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [December 4, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460 "2012-12-04T13:47:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/121 "2014-07-09T18:42:15Z")
Tell me more if you can repeat this tearing. This is prolly a physiologic sign, caused by stimulating the specific nerve that controls the lacrimal gland. I’ve seen this with TAL. It’s a specifc branch of one of the numbered Cranial Nerves. Another controls eyelid and nose twitching, which I’ve seen with TAF and [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/). ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/122 "2014-07-09T18:57:47Z")
Monesmademedoit, I noticed it almost immediately after I spray it on. Like 1 or 2 minutes later. It starts at the inside of the eye and quickly spreads outward. I feel it more in the bottom lid than in the top lid. The best way I can describe it is that it makes my eyes feel like they do when smoking pot. (Chinese eye..no offense to my Asian brothers and sisters 🙂 ) It has been a few hours since I sprayed it on now, but I can still feel it in my eyes, but not as strong as before. Definitely still there though. My eyes teared up about 1-2 hours after application. Not excessively so, but I did wipe them with a tissue. I have 5mcg/spray dosage in my togo and applied 3 sprays, one to each side of the neck, and one below my adams apple. I am still a bit “wired” from the application…my keyboard is smokin today 🙂 Getting a lot done. ---
**Author:** ![LadyScientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@LadyScientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LadyScientist)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 9:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/123 "2014-07-10T09:42:59Z")
From the description, it sounds like the dryness caused the tearing. It sounds counter-intuitive but dry eye patients tear a lot Bc their body responds by trying to lubricate the surface of the eye. Also, CP says he was working on a computer and typing a lot: which has shown to decrease blink rate coupled with excessive near work can exacerbate symptoms if dryness–\>tearing. However, the increased focus implies sympathetic activation (or anti-SLUD) here so I would suggest an artificial tear upon application of the phero. (Did I just totally give away my field or what?) ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2014, 1:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/124 "2014-07-10T13:07:12Z")
Interesting LS…I think I have established that the P94 is making my eyes feel funny, more than likely making them dry. Im pretty sure also that it increases my focus. One other thing about the tearing, it doesnt happen right away. For instance, yesterday I applied the P94 at around 8 am, and somewhere around 10AM they just all of a sudden teared up, like the tear ducts finally opened up. I wonder if the P94 somehow closes the tear ducts via dryness or minor swelling? And then as it wears off the ducts open the floodgates? Just wondering about the mechanism.. OK today I am going to test it one more time. 15mcg P94 sides and front of neck I will put in eye drops at the same time and see if that makes a difference. OK now I have to go and Google Anti-SLUD… ---
**Author:** ![LadyScientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@LadyScientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LadyScientist)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/125 "2014-07-11T01:39:25Z")
Don’t forget to take breaks from the computer screen by looking in the distance! ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/126 "2014-07-11T18:41:27Z")
Thank you for the reminder LadyScientist! I do have a window directly to my left as I sit at my computer that looks out onto a greenspace. Works well for your advice, as well as daydreaming and girl watching at lunchtime. Thanks for looking out for me! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2014, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/127 "2014-07-11T18:56:21Z")
P94 Report So I applied 15mcg again yesterday and set my stopwatch feature on my smartphone. In about 12 minutes I started feeling the stonedeyes feeling again. I immediately put in some eyedrops and the stoned eye feeling went away for the most part. If I remember correctly, I do get this same effect from a few other mones. I will just treat with drops as needed going forward. Didnt really bother me to begin with, but does feel better after eyedrops. This will be my go-to focus molecule for when I need to really buckle down and get things done. Also, I will consider this as an adjunct to A314 for intense business meetings. I think it could really help. The only other thing I want to test with this one is to wear it when on a real date to see if I get the fallout type effect that GirlFriday mentioned earlier. Overall rating of this molecule as far as usefulness = 8 out of 10. Fun stuff. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/128 "2014-07-13T18:25:07Z")
> [@LadyScientist](#): > > From the description, it sounds like the dryness caused the tearing. It sounds counter-intuitive but dry eye patients tear a lot Bc their body responds by trying to lubricate the surface of the eye. Also, CP says he was working on a computer and typing a lot: which has shown to decrease blink rate coupled with excessive near work can exacerbate symptoms if dryness–\>tearing. However, the increased focus implies sympathetic activation (or anti-SLUD) here so I would suggest an artificial tear upon application of the phero. (Did I just totally give away my field or what?) Get some TAF. You may see fasciculations with it. I have with it and [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/). ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/129 "2014-07-14T14:21:42Z")
> [@CelticPrince](#): > > Interesting LS…I think I have established that the P94 is making my eyes feel funny, more than likely making them dry. Im pretty sure also that it increases my focus. > > One other thing about the tearing, it doesnt happen right away. For instance, yesterday I applied the P94 at around 8 am, and somewhere around 10AM they just all of a sudden teared up, like the tear ducts finally opened up. I wonder if the P94 somehow closes the tear ducts via dryness or minor swelling? And then as it wears off the ducts open the floodgates? Just wondering about the mechanism.. > > OK today I am going to test it one more time. > > 15mcg P94 > sides and front of neck > > I will put in eye drops at the same time and see if that makes a difference. > > OK now I have to go and Google Anti-SLUD… ?SLUD?: Salivation, Lacrimation, Urination, Defecation. LOL ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 2:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/130 "2014-07-14T14:56:40Z")
Washout Report MX353 Last Saturday, went to an outside micro-beer tasting event. Weather: warm, overcast Wearing: MX353, 15mcg on neck MX279, 1 spray A314 2 drops So I meet a friend at my office at 1PM and we take 1 car down to the beer dabbler. It was warm and humid all morning, and cloudy. On the short drive to the venue, it starts raining. We get there and start walking around tasting beers. I thought I would test MX353 again as it was an outside crowded somewhat wild event. Well it was kind of a washout as after about 30 minutes, I am pretty much soaked. It wasnt raining hard, but it was steady drizzle. Oh well, I guess all my mones are getting washed off. Hits: -Got some nice looks and wet hair flips from several women. -Cute brunette, sexy dark brown eyes, completely soaked, struck up a conversation with me. Said she liked my “Guinness is good for you” tee-shirt. I said thanks and said that she gets my vote for the wet tee-shirt contest. She then shimmies her chest back and forth a few times and winks and says “They are my best assets” . I said I was going to go into a nearby bar to get out of the rain for a while and she asks if she can come along. I said sure. We go inside and they have the air conditioning cranked and now we are freezing. I state “OMG I am freezing..” and she says “I know, look, my puppies are barking..” and she sticks out her chest a little and indeed her nips were at full attention. (disinhibition?) I looked down at them and laughed and said “You could cut glass with them babies” and everyone laughed. The moral of this little story is I thought that the mones had gotten washed off, but they seemed to still be working. I figure that some stayed “stuck on” me and some washed downward off my neck and soaked into my tee shirt and possibly my shorts. When I went inside out of the rain I started to dry off and as the water started evaporating off of me, the mones must of started to get airborne again as well. What I thought was going to be a washout and a waste of mones, actually turned out very nice. She invited me to a private party tomorrow downtown before the All-Star game (baseball). Should be fun, and another chance to test some mones on my new “Brown-eyed girl” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/131 "2014-07-14T17:15:53Z")
[SLUDGE syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLUDGE_syndrome) Good for DDX of cholinergic poisons, strychnine, animal venom, endogenous disease, botulinum. ---
**Author:** ![LadyScientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@LadyScientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LadyScientist)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/132 "2014-07-22T17:41:21Z")
haha CP that brown eyed girl sounds just the right kind of naughty for you! Monesmademedoit: it’s also just an acronym we use; anti-slud for parasympatholytic meds/or anti-muscarinic drugs. (They block the natural SLUD that the parasympathetic is responsible for stimulating) SLUDGE is what happens when the parasympathetic gets OVERLY stimulated and/or the sympathetic is overly blocked and can’t balance it out, like with an OD on most poisonous substances you listed. ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/133 "2014-07-22T18:17:26Z")
Hey LS—You got that right! We have gone out a few more times in the last week and a half…I need to update my journal with the goods…maybe later today if I get my head above water here at the office 😮 ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/134 "2014-07-22T19:01:53Z")
> [@LadyScientist](#): > > haha CP that brown eyed girl sounds just the right kind of naughty for you! > > Monesmademedoit: it’s also just an acronym we use; anti-slud for parasympatholytic meds/or anti-muscarinic drugs. (They block the natural SLUD that the parasympathetic is responsible for stimulating) > > SLUDGE is what happens when the parasympathetic gets OVERLY stimulated and/or the sympathetic is overly blocked and can’t balance it out, like with an OD on most poisonous substances you listed. I though it was some belladonna concoction that gives men rock-hard abs and hard… And makes girls want long, hair-pullin’ sessions of hard…Scrabble. Or whatever. 😃 There are certain putatives. “Vigara?” “F’ck. This sh’t hurts.” Don’t need no Viagra. Hard abs though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/135 "2014-07-23T01:21:06Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > [SLUDGE syndrome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLUDGE_syndrome) > > Good for DDX of cholinergic poisons, strychnine, animal venom, endogenous disease, botulinum. Hey Monesmadedoit, Read this a little while ago and I immediately thought of you. ..don’t know why 🙂 : In recent years, gigasample per second (GSPS) ADCs have been pushing the data conversion stage closer and closer to the antenna. But when analog bandwidths reach 1-2 GHz, in many cases the dynamic AC performance of current GSPS ADCs is severely limited by the linearity and noise spectral density of the converter. In this webinar, we’ll discuss the advantages of going to new improved GSPS converters and the impact on Radar and Electronic Warfare systems… Ok I’ve had a few… ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/136 "2014-07-23T02:57:40Z")
Yeah, like this. Although I figure you mean RF, such as why they put the LNA on the dish. [Data logger & data acquisition products from Pico Technology](http://www.picotech.com/data.html) They have PC scopes of course. Also EEG’s with an external microamp and electrodes that connect to a USB/Laptop. So you can record your brainwaves on mones. [EEG: Electroencephalography | Neuromarketing | Research | BIOPAC](http://www.biopac.com/eeg-electroencephalography) Actually, I think there are schematics for crude EEG’s. You can build a crude EKG for under $50. ---
**Author:** ![skimbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@skimbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/skimbo)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2014, 9:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/137 "2014-07-23T09:05:03Z")
Brilliant read - really enjoyed it, just read the whole lot start to finish. It’s like a [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) for dummies guide and therefore perfectly suited for me 😉 Thanks for the journal! Skimbo ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/138 "2014-07-28T19:46:10Z")
Thank you Skimbo..I try to share the love, as many here have done for me. I cant tell you how much pheros have changed my life for the positive. I just wish there were more hours in the day to record all my phero fun. I try and always record the blatant massive hits that I get from time to time. There are so many different pheros, that it would literally take years and years to figure this stuff out on your own. I try to balance reading about other peoples phero escapades with my own blind testing. Thanks for reading…CP ---
**Author:** ![CelticPrince](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/celticprince/32/397_2.png) [@CelticPrince](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CelticPrince)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/139 "2014-07-28T21:03:47Z")
Girlfriends Birthday Party MX297 3 sprays forearms P83 10mcg [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 1 spray wrists Tuth 2 sprays chest Last Saturday went to a friends birthday party at a local bar. We went to school together. The party was off the bar in a private party room. I decided to bring “Brown-eyed girl” with me. In addition to birthday girl, there were several other people we went to school with. A couple of which I went out with back in the day. No worries though, ancient history. After saying hi to everyone, we perched ourselves at a hightop table. The next thing I know, 3 gals that I know from school are surrounding me. I introduce them all to Brown eyed girl, and everyone is being nice. One of them is a little tipsy and she is hovering in my airspace, bumping into me periodically. When talking to me her eyes are locked into mine, to the point of uncomfortableness, so I break the gaze a few times. Another girl starts telling me about all her medical stuff going on-lost 25 lbs on a diet, had her appendix out, had a problem recovering so had to go back in for a revision, and then said she had an issue with her girlie parts and had to have a D and C. Well isnt that special…😮 Then girl number 3 gets into the act and says she recently got some “work done”. Face lift and tummy tuck. Well bless her heart…😮 Tipsy girl goes out for a smoke, and the other two started mingling with others, and brown eyed girl asks me, “Do your friends always tell you about their personal stuff?” 😃 I said no, not really, and agreed with her that it was a little odd. I brushed it off by saying they were probably tipsy or something. Then tipsy girl comes back in and heads straight for us again. Brown eyed girl leans into me and hugs my arm. Nice. Then tipsy girl invades my space again. Awkward. After 5 minutes tipsy girl excuses herself and says she has to leave and go home. After she leaves, tummy tuck girl comes back and says “Isnt that sad?” I said what? She says “The reason she is leaving is she is an alcoholic and she is going home to get drunk and fall into bed. She does it every night.” Wow. I guess nobody has a frigging filter tonight. (Instant Honesty) B.E.G. (Brown eyed girl) is giving me the look, like its time to go. I get the message. We had a plan B already lined up to go to a block party in her neighborhood put on by a local bar. Live band, outside, classic hot rods on display. Fun. So we say our goodbyes and head out. In the car she starts getting a little frisky almost to the point of becoming a distraction while Im driving. Her head is on my shoulder and I notice her nostrils flaring a couple times. Like she is sniffing. Her nose is about 8 inches away from my Tuth application point. I start thinking that maybe she doesnt like the smell when she says “You always smell so good…” She is totally going into sexy kitten mode (which is awesome..) right down to the way she is talking. Kind of working in a husky, whispery, tone if that makes sense. A little lowered tone. I do believe the Tuth is having an effect. We get to the block party and it is pretty wild. Lots of people, having fun. I noticed a few hair twirls and a couple prolonged looks from a couple gals that were downwind of me, but otherwise it was hard to notice any other hits as it was a little windy. B.E.G. introduces me to a couple girlfriends of hers that she runs into. She grabs my upper arm again while introducing me to them. She has a tendency to do this when other women are around I am noticing. Claiming me? Signaling to other women that “he’s with me” ? Is this the mones or something more primal? Im thinking that it is a little of both. I can tell she likes me, but I think the P83 is helping her show those feelings a bit more easily, and the Tuth is having its affect as well. After about an hour of dancing to the band and other merriment she whispers in my ear, “Lets go to my place..” And like a true gentleman, thats exactly where I take her…Ladies first…🆒 ---
**Author:** ![LadyScientist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@LadyScientist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LadyScientist)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2014, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/140 "2014-07-28T23:24:08Z")
lmfao! These women sound awful! I never want to be like that (I’m sure I’m just as annoying intoxicated) The arm grabbing is DEF claiming. I only get like that if I have a point to make. If people are being respectful towards the “couple” then I feel like we can do our own thing and find each other at our own pace. The lowering of the voice is huge! They have done studies on men rating what voice is sexier and the hushed, slow, deeper voice wins across the board. I’ve been trying to do this on purpose but I’m so bad at it bc I’m so cheerful and upbeat. I noticed when I had the enone on with the boy this weekend, I was able to get out the sexy voice without any concentration-- TOTALLY natural. B.E.G (lol love the pun here) sounds like she is sticking around…! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460.md?page=6) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460.md?page=8)