# CelticPrince's Aeriform Subterfuge

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**Created:** [December 4, 2012, 1:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460 "2012-12-04T13:47:34Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/celticprinces-aeriform-subterfuge/57460/190 "2015-04-02T16:56:27Z")

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> [@lwatkins](#):
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> Your observations seem right in line with previous comments.
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> Did you find this thus far to hit positively across the board, or did you get any negative reactions?
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> I so far have not been able to differentiate between reports on P78 vs. P81.
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> Was it perhaps, more attention-getting? Was their a greater sense of focus?  
> With P78, I occasionally get more spacey rather than a focus. But the uplifting giddiness and combination of comfort and sexy arousal at the same time, that is a cross-over. Highly positive social effects and charisma.
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> I don’t think I’ve ever had anyone cry with P78 - though certainly I’ve gotten that with P79… the acceleration of any underlying worries when you bump into them, they surface. P80 is supposed to have that too, yes?
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> A persistent effect I get with P78 is that people are willing to spend money on things - like my wife who is a miser, suddenly she’s buying us both expensive things and generally blowing the budget, which is so out of character.

Lwatkins,  
Re P81, yes, it has a generally positive vibe. Pretty fun in fact. Except for that crying thing with my friend. Not sure what all that was about. I think maybe she was just feeling a little low or insecure at that moment, then I made a wisecrack and it hit a nerve. I give her shit all the time, as she does to me, so she should be used to it.

I like your description “combination of comfort and sexy arousal at the same time, that is a cross-over.” That is P81.

As far as attention getting/focus\>\>Yes. Lots of deep eye contact while she was talking. Held my eyes for a long time while talking, not shy at all. I do go back to it being a dis-inhibitor. This girl and I know each other very well, but we dont date. When we get together, usually for drinks, she normally will open up and tell me about her love life, but not right out of the gate. It will take 30-45 minutes and a couple Cosmo’s before she starts telling me about who she is dating, along with the nitty-gritty details. This particular night she jumped right in with the gory details. Maybe these phero effects, her insecurity in her current relationship, and my flippant remarks combined and made her freak out a little and cry. But she bounced right back and we had a great time the rest of the way. Who knows?? Sometimes girls just cry.

Re the P78, I just got it, and I think I only used it once so far, in a mix with some other things. I havent tried it solo yet. In fact, there is no better time than the present. I havent put anything on yet today, so I will blast myself with some P78 solo and report back later tonight or tomorrow.

P80? Cant really comment. Never tried it yet.

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