# Cheaper to buy the travel sizes in bulk?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 12, 2012, 10:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275 "2012-11-12T10:37:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![kino911](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kino911/32/2046_2.png) [@kino911](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kino911)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 10:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275/1 "2012-11-12T10:37:32Z")

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Instant openness travel size:

$20 / 40 sprays total  
5 x $20 = $100  
5 x 40 sprays = 200 sprays

EDIT: (5 not 2) So if I bought 5 travel size bottles that would be 200 sprays for $100 (Which is the average price for travel sizes)

Instant openness full size:

$120 / 200 sprays total  
1 x $120 = $120  
1 x 200 sprays = 200 sprays

So if I bought 1 normal size bottle that would be 200 sprays for $120 ( Which seems to be a little high)

So if you buy the bigger bottle you pay $20 more. Therefore it should be knocked down to around $80-$90 so that we have a reason to buy the bigger bottles.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 10:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275/2 "2012-11-12T10:52:13Z")

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Remember that the togo spray volume is about 20% smaller than the 30ml, so the number of sprays between the two is not quite comparable. You would need six togos (give or take a few percent) for a direct equivalent volume.

But yes, John has admitted that they price the togos to a lower point compared to 30mls. However, the leakage/evaporation issues of the last year or more have left me mistrustful of togos for any kind of long term storage - even though they seem to have got things a whole lot better recently. Having most of a UF2 set evaporate on me was annoying, esp as I was getting really good results with some of them. ☹

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275/3 "2012-11-12T11:35:59Z")

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> So if I bought 2 travel size bottles that would be 200 sprays for $100 (Which is the average price for travel sizes)

I dont know why John would say that because its not true.

No, if you bought 2 to-go bottles which are the travel size it would be 80 sprays not 200. 40 x 2 = 80

Its comes out the same pretty much so your not paying higher for the big bottle.

To-go sizes are 5 ml. To equal one 30 ml bottle you need to buy 6 to-go bottles. 6 x 20= $120

1 30 ml bottle cost $120.

Dont go by sprays go by ML. The nozzle on a to-go bottle is a different size. You only get 83% of a 30 ML spray.

I also have to second Mobo. To-go size does not do well in long term storage at all. They are not stored in a light block bottle. The to-go’s are great for trying things out, easy travel and if you cant afford to get a 30 ml but if your gonna spend a lot go for the big bottles.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![kino911](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kino911/32/2046_2.png) [@kino911](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kino911)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275/4 "2012-11-12T11:50:51Z")

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I meant to write “if I bought 5 travel size bottles that would be 200 sprays for $100”

I wrote 2 instead of 5.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275/5 "2012-11-12T13:48:41Z")

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> [@kino911](#):
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> I meant to write “if I bought 5 travel size bottles that would be 200 sprays for $100”
> 
> I wrote 2 instead of 5.

No problem typos happen. 🙂

It would be $100 if you bought 5 and you would get 200 sprays that way however you would still not be getting the same [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) content per spray as a 30 ML bottle. The amount you use is going to be a little higher spray wise to reach your dosage with to-go bottles simply because the nozzle is smaller.

In the end it pretty much all evens out.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275/6 "2012-11-13T17:25:21Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> I dont know why John would say that because its not true.
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> No, if you bought 2 to-go bottles which are the travel size it would be 80 sprays not 200. 40 x 2 = 80
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> Its comes out the same pretty much so your not paying higher for the big bottle.
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> To-go sizes are 5 ml. To equal one 30 ml bottle you need to buy 6 to-go bottles. 6 x 20= $120
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> 1 30 ml bottle cost $120.
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> Dont go by sprays go by ML. The nozzle on a to-go bottle is a different size. You only get 83% of a 30 ML spray.
> 
> I also have to second Mobo. To-go size does not do well in long term storage at all. They are not stored in a light block bottle. The to-go’s are great for trying things out, easy travel and if you cant afford to get a 30 ml but if your gonna spend a lot go for the big bottles.
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> Tisha

I dont remember saying that specifically, if somebody can post where I did I would love to clarify. Either way, can’t argue with the math.

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**Author:** ![ballzan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ballzan/32/558_2.png) [@ballzan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ballzan)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 6:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275/7 "2012-11-13T18:15:10Z")

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> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
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> I dont remember saying that specifically, if somebody can post where I did I would love to clarify. Either way, can’t argue with the math.

The closest thing I ever remember reading was on a thread where someone was complaining about how high priced IO and IH were and you said you tried to keep the price of the togo’s the same so that might be where he was getting confused.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275/8 "2012-11-14T08:09:36Z")

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> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
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> I dont remember saying that specifically, if somebody can post where I did I would love to clarify. Either way, can’t argue with the math.

Here:

> **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/insane-prices-sprays-61536.html)**
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> We have kept the 5 mLs more to what you guys are accustomed to so that we can continue to sell you the product. Its our compromise without having the pull the item completely as we have had to do in the past.
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> So its either this, or its out of stock, unfortunately. I urge you to enjoy the 5 mLs of what hasn’t come down and there is plenty of opportunity in the product line that is priced to your liking.
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> We don’t expect everybody to be able to afford the current 30 mL cost, which is why you’ll find the to-go’s haven’t seen the same increase.

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cheaper-to-buy-the-travel-sizes-in-bulk/57275/9 "2012-11-14T09:40:36Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Here:
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> [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/insane-prices-sprays-61536.html#post479144](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/insane-prices-sprays-61536.html#post479144)

Yes, in reference to the fact that none of the To-Go’s have been increased in the same manner as the 30 mLs that were put up higher. But that only applies to a couple of 30 mLs. Your post had made it sound like 5 mLs were not proportional to 30 mLs as a rule. Just want to make sure there’s no confusion.
