# chem set? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 19, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699 "2011-01-19T15:11:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/1 "2011-01-19T15:11:35Z")
Im interested in buying some of the experimone series mainly alpha nol. I have seen LS sell a chem set which also has A1 in it which I would like to test. These sets from LS seem to have a much larger mcg content for the money, does this mean they are not as good quality as the AD products? 😕 I have tried a search but no luck would love to hear from users that use these on a regular basis. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/2 "2011-01-19T15:15:00Z")
I don’t know about quality, but the great thing about androtics is that you can get it in the dosage you want personally. It saves you the trouble of having to dilute it, because more than likely 1 drop of the chemset mones at lovescent is way more than you might actually want. A1 is still only available there as far as I know. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/3 "2011-01-19T15:24:33Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > I don’t know about quality, but the great thing about androtics is that you can get it in the dosage you want personally. It saves you the trouble of having to dilute it, because more than likely 1 drop of the chemset mones at lovescent is way more than you might actually want. > > A1 is still only available there as far as I know. I was just looking at the LS site and it says if you buy a 10ml bottle of Anol it contains 10mg of mones for $90, am I right in saying thats 10,000 mcg. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/4 "2011-01-19T15:53:36Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > I was just looking at the LS site and it says if you buy a 10ml bottle of Anol it contains 10mg of mones for $90, am I right in saying thats 10,000 mcg. That’s right But with dosing, at 15mcg/spray of mones at approx 200 sprays is about 3mg of that mone, you’re looking at 50 bucks and change, and its about 60 bucks more than LS to get the putatives here (without the reporting user discount). However take into consideration that its customized for you, that its also dosed, scented, and dilluted. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/5 "2011-01-19T15:55:57Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > I was just looking at the LS site and it says if you buy a 10ml bottle of Anol it contains 10mg of mones for $90, am I right in saying thats 10,000 mcg. I wouldnt touch the 4 bottle chem set from LS if I were you but the rest of the individual chem sets work well. I only get EST and A-1 from them now but I’ve used there anol and rone in the past and it works just fine to me. Chem sets are only worth buying if your batching mixes with medium to high quantity mcgs per spray. Otherwise you’d be better off buying the metered stuff from AD. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/6 "2011-01-19T16:01:31Z")
Also there is the idea of purity levels and grades of the said [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) as well. AD claims to synthesize there stuff higher quality than anyone else. Take that statement for its worth. Trust me when I say layering is a lot more economical and your not stuck with any said ratios that you set when you mixed something up. The mones need to be attached to a scent afterwards so that will drive up the cost some with EO buying and having to buy PA. Not saying you couldnt do it but it simply isnt that convenient and your dosing can be very off if you dont do it properly. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/7 "2011-01-19T16:24:38Z")
Thanks for the advice guys. I use alot of IO 4x and IH 4x and I was just looking for ways to save money I seem to be getting through it quite quickly and at nearly $80 a pop its not cheap. I see what you mean about the hassle factor though and I might just try the A1 from LS and get the Anol and Bnol I need from AD. I assume buying straight Anol and Bnol at X mcg works out cheaper then buying IO,IH 4x because Im not sure of the mcg content of both those products? ---
**Author:** ![Deja\_Vu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/deja_vu/32/256_2.png) [@Deja\_Vu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Deja_Vu)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/8 "2011-01-19T16:33:59Z")
IO is 15 mcg/spray if I am not wrong, thus at 4x it would work out to be 60mcg/spray. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/9 "2011-01-19T16:34:04Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > Thanks for the advice guys. I use alot of IO 4x and IH 4x and I was just looking for ways to save money I seem to be getting through it quite quickly and at nearly $80 a pop its not cheap. I see what you mean about the hassle factor though and I might just try the A1 from LS and get the Anol and Bnol I need from AD. > > I assume buying straight Anol and Bnol works out cheaper then buying IO,IH 4x because Im not sure of the mcg content of both those products? AD sells everything at the same price with a few exceptions. B-nol is a cheaper molecule of the 5 mains so in my experience your better off buying it from elsewhere if you really want a lot of it. A-nol is a expensive molecule so no matter where you buy it the cost will be in the same range. Anol does not equal IO and Bnol does not equal IH. You really are buying a propriety blend that goes beyond what anol and bnol would be respectively by themselves and even if you were to mix them together you cant replicate IH or IO anyway. PM thegentlemen or K-train if you do decide to get A-1. They can help you lots in terms of use and getting started. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/10 "2011-01-19T16:34:49Z")
> [@Deja\_Vu](#): > > IO is 15 mcg/spray if I am not wrong, thus at 4x it would work out to be 60mcg/spray. Yep thats perfectly correct 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/11 "2011-01-19T16:46:47Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > [Anol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) does not equal [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Beta Androstenol does not equal [IH](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) . You really are buying a propriety blend that goes beyond what [anol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Beta Androstenol would be respectively by themselves and even if you were to mix them together you cant replicate [IH](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) or [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) anyway. Are you saying there are other molecules in the IO, IH blends apart from anol and bnol? Also if IO is a 15mcg spray would it be roughly 10mcg anol, 5mcg bnol per spray or would this ratio in you oppinion give me similar effects as IO? sorry for all the questions. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/12 "2011-01-19T16:52:41Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > Are you saying there are other molecules in the IO, IH blends? > > Also if IO is a 15mcg spray would it be roughly 10mcg anol, 5mcg bnol per spray? > > sorry for all the questions. I can only make guesses but heres my conjecture. Mharris claimed that the instant line was based on a 12.5:2.5 mcg ratio. I cant confirm if this holds true for the WHOLE line but it does certainly for IJ and IG. That means thats the main ingredient in those are set to 12.5 mcgs respectively for the rone and the none content in those. The 2.5 remainder is comprised of 1 or more molecules. My very very rough theory on IH and IO is that: IO 8.75 Anol 3.75 Bnol 2.5 mystery ingredients IH 8.75 Bnol 3.75 Anol 2.5 mystery ingredients \*This is based on the regular 70/30 conjecture that most people here follow suit on when talking about Instant Honest and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) Thats all I can tell you on the subject in my perception. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/13 "2011-01-19T16:56:46Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > I can only make guesses but heres my conjecture. Mharris claimed that the instant line was based on a 12.5:2.5 mcg ratio. I cant confirm if this holds true for the WHOLE line but it does certainly for IJ and IG. That means thats the main ingredient in those are set to 12.5 mcgs respectively for the rone and the none content in those. The 2.5 remainder is comprised of 1 or more molecules. > > My very very rough theory on IH and IO is that: > > IO > 8.75 Anol > 3.75 Bnol > 2.5 mystery ingredients > > IH > 8.75 Bnol > 3.75 Anol > 2.5 mystery ingredients > > \*This is based on the regular 70/30 conjecture that most people here follow suit on when talking about Instant Honest and Instant Openness > > Thats all I can tell you on the subject in my perception. Thankyou for taking the time to answer my questions, most appreciated 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chem-set/44699/14 "2011-01-19T17:44:49Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > My very very rough theory on IH and IO is that: > > IO > 8.75 Anol > 3.75 Bnol > **2.5 _mystery ingredients_** > > IH > 8.75 Bnol > 3.75 Anol > _2.5 mystery ingredients_\*\* We stopped using bottles of mystery ingredients when we got all scientific and junk. But your theories are always interesting. 😉