# Chick Magnet mixes... Some newbies should try them! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 28, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142 "2010-09-28T20:41:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/183 "2011-11-23T05:08:09Z")
AMMO, yes, the FF21 that comes with it is a love/hate thing with guys. It is not normally in between, lol! I’ve gotten ‘used’ to it, but prefer custom ordering it with FF22 or I can see [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) work wonderfully as the scent carrier of the AMMO mone molecules. If I wear too much FF21, I’ll get a headache. I minimize it by using it on the tops of my hands or my wrists. I’ve also used a cover scent, in my case, Burberry and that tones it down quite a bit. I still put off the sexy man here, vibe of AMMO, but, with the, IMO, troublesome scent of FF21 dominating the air. ---
**Author:** ![alvin101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@alvin101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alvin101)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/184 "2011-11-23T13:04:10Z")
So just to clarify the ff21 scent smells like washing detergent and others smell okay? The first bottle of ammo I ordered was supposed to be the World edition but that smelled terrible like detergent. With another order I’ve gotten a free to go bottle of ammo and that smelled good. Could it be I ordered the world edition and they gave me regular ? I don’t see any indication on the bottle to tell me which version it is. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/185 "2011-11-23T13:59:02Z")
What does it say on your invoice and what are the batch numbers on the label on the bottom of the bottle? We ought to be able to work it out from that. I have a bottle of WE here, V10b, #ZA037211, Lot ZC290068, 3/29/11. Can check my newer bottle later. And yes, WE/F22 does not smell like detergent. Pity it is not being sold just now, not discontinued but it looks like it is on its way there. ☹ So FTM, if you don’t like/get-on with F21, A different scent in a custom order is the only way to go. ---
**Author:** ![alvin101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@alvin101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alvin101)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/186 "2011-11-24T05:02:57Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > What does it say on your invoice and what are the batch numbers on the label on the bottom of the bottle? We ought to be able to work it out from that. > > I have a bottle of WE here, V10b, #ZA037211, Lot ZC290068, 3/29/11. > Can check my newer bottle later. > > And yes, WE/F22 does not smell like detergent. Pity it is not being sold just now, not discontinued but it looks like it is on its way there. ☹ > > So FTM, if you don’t like/get-on with F21, A different scent in a custom order is the only way to go. okay it says AMMUNITION FF22 “[World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/)”. on my invoice. and the numbers are Strength 1x Version 1.0.2 Batch# 901 Bottled on 10/19/10 Batched by number 8 Yes this was about a year ago I got this. I would like to reorder some ammo but I would like that good smelling ammo I got as a free to go gift. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/187 "2011-11-24T05:45:15Z")
😉 > [@alvin101](#): > > okay it says AMMUNITION FF22 “World Edition”. on my invoice. and the numbers are Strength 1x Version 1.0.2 Batch# 901 Bottled on 10/19/10 Batched by number 8 > > Yes this was about a year ago I got this. I would like to reorder some ammo but I would like that good smelling ammo I got as a free to go gift. Do you think it was the ORIGINAL ammo? It smells good! Man, they should get Game scented Ammo back… ---
**Author:** ![alvin101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@alvin101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alvin101)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/188 "2011-11-24T13:31:07Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > 😉 > > Do you think it was the ORIGINAL ammo? It smells good! > Man, they should get Game scented Ammo back… Yeah I think it was the original ammo because it smells terrible even though I got some hits 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/189 "2011-11-24T14:04:46Z")
I doubt it will be the original as this scent has not been used for several years. Same with Game - None has been issued for at least two years AFAIK. What does it say on the togo you liked? There should hopefully be batch details on that too. ---
**Author:** ![mika3549](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mika3549/32/2136_2.png) [@mika3549](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mika3549)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/190 "2011-11-24T14:09:48Z")
guys you know that they CANNOT get GAME or AMMO scent back due to FDA rules. and world edition ammo (FF22) is out of stock, got some akuto scented last week. I hope it wont be too smelly in the combination with mx297. ---
**Author:** ![alvin101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@alvin101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alvin101)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/191 "2011-11-24T14:50:38Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I doubt it will be the original as this scent has not been used for several years. > > Same with Game - None has been issued for at least two years AFAIK. > > What does it say on the togo you liked? There should hopefully be batch details on that too. Unfortunately that bottle of to go ammo is buried in the sand on a nearby uninhabited island on one of my crazy adventures 😃. I didn’t want to take it in the water so I buried it and didn’t remember until I was on the boat leaving the island. Maybe someday a lucky soul is gonna find buried treasure.🙂 Anyway what ammo scent do you recommend? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/192 "2011-11-24T18:43:53Z")
I prefer the [World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/) (F22) by far. Standard (F21) is at my limit of tolerance for irritation and I can only wear it for a few hours before getting a stumping headache/rash - No other AD scent I’ve yet tried gives me a problem. Now F22 is off the menu, I reckon my next Ammo will be in a custom order with Akuto at cologne strength. I doubt Neroli 6% will cover it and I don’t think I’d like it in cologne strength - Too orangy by far. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/193 "2011-11-27T06:09:49Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I prefer the World Edition (F22) by far. Standard (F21) is at my limit of tolerance for irritation and I can only wear it for a few hours before getting a stumping headache/rash - No other AD scent I’ve yet tried gives me a problem. > > Now F22 is off the menu, I reckon my next Ammo will be in a custom order with Akuto at cologne strength. I doubt Neroli 6% will cover it and I don’t think I’d like it in cologne strength - Too orangy by far. ammo with grapefruit sounds enticing 😉 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/194 "2012-01-04T14:24:52Z")
> [@mika3549](#): > > guys you know that they CANNOT get GAME or AMMO scent back due to FDA rules. and world edition ammo (FF22) is out of stock, got some akuto scented last week. I hope it wont be too smelly in the combination with mx297. Right. As what happens to a lot of odorant molecules in the fragrance industry, the regulatory body for the personal care/fragrance/cosmetics industry (IFRA) issued a ban on a particular odorant in Game circa 2009. They banned a certain chemical in that iteration of Game scent, and further iterations just did not smell the same, nor did they have the same diffusion profile. It happens all the time. My favorite scent in the world was Armani Black Code, but in recent years it has just blurred to slop. Game was awesome. It was designed for us by a “Big 4” perfumer (same house that made Drakkar Noir). Akuto was made by the same group. But because all the hassle, we’re striking out on our own with healthier, stealthier alternatives. Stuff you could wear incognito (I reckon that is what a lot of pheromone users are looking for anyway! We know. We dun a survey!) We’re innovating, step by step, a killer diffusion package on our own. You can sniff the best of our work so far by chasing down some of the most recent “Stealth Diffusion” mixes (check Store Announcements forum or search MX460-MX462, or MX458 and MX459.). Since we have total control of what goes into the diffusion package, we can select the healthier, more biodegradable musks that ALSO diffuse like crazy and take [pheromones](https://a314.com/) with 'em. The new stuff is incredible. Eventually we want to replace the Neroli. Ah, one step at a time, though. Oh and MX297 is also now available in Stealth Diffusion. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2012, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/195 "2012-01-12T03:49:26Z")
I still think we need a new scent for ammo. The original ammo and game were two of the best. Amazing masculine scents! ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/196 "2012-03-15T19:04:55Z")
Hey for chick magnet 2, how does the plus/minus five years work? I’m a junior in HS. So would it work for freshman-seniors? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 9:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/197 "2012-03-20T21:24:44Z")
> [@maxx55](#): > > Hey for chick magnet 2, how does the plus/minus five years work? I’m a junior in HS. So would it work for freshman-seniors? I would not add p83 to IG + IO. I would go with 2 shots of IG + 2 shots of IS + 3 shots of IO. good luck ---
**Author:** ![maxx55](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@maxx55](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/maxx55)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/198 "2012-03-20T22:33:15Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > I would not add p83 to IG + IO. I would go with 2 shots of IG + 2 shots of IS + 3 shots of IO. good luck Hm…I actually have togos of all three of those. I might try it soon. And thanks ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/199 "2012-05-26T11:40:57Z")
any update? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/200 "2012-08-07T18:50:05Z")
p75 and p93… a nice combo… sexy + beautifying effect = winner ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/201 "2012-08-07T21:42:17Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > p75 and p93… a nice combo… sexy + beautifying effect = winner Finally, I thought I was the only one seeing a beautifying effect with [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/)… I wonder if P94 could do this as well? ---
**Author:** ![ppHamelin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pphamelin/32/758_2.png) [@ppHamelin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ppHamelin)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142/202 "2012-08-07T21:56:10Z")
[P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) is really hard to pin down for me - not sure I’m seeing the beautifying effect but it does change people perception of you and make them think you are of ‘delicate’ nature. So I guess it can be beautifying but for me I just get treated like overprotective parents would treat their one and most beloved fragile child (super VIP service but can be a bit annoying). Too much of it will probably have an effeminate effect for guys which is why for some peeps they think it’s a gay mix. As Coolkat pointed out it works wonders on blondes though, dunno why, maybe it makes the guy seems like he’s in touch with his emotions or something. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142.md?page=9) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142.md?page=11)