# Chikara: Does it work

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 17, 2007, 9:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631 "2007-01-17T09:19:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 5:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/41 "2007-01-30T05:06:22Z")

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> [@Gegogi](#):
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> I didn’t get jack diddle from Perception. Probably it needed a bit more none and/or Androsterone to get moving. However the water based carrier got funky really fast. Not the kinda product you’d want around more than a month.

Same here. Perception got to my door leaking like mad. And yeah it smelled pretty foul after a short while.

I still like a lot of products on LS…but perception is one that I really think is quite awful, in so many ways.

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**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 6:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/42 "2007-01-30T06:12:12Z")

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I only really like The Scent of Eros (gel packs) and Alter Ego from l-s. The Edge was a dud for me; as was Chikara pretty much. Alter Ego a bit hit-and-miss possibily. Have not tried Liquid Trust yet but hope too, perhaps when the weather on this side of the world is cooler; as I heard it needs to be kept cool; and 40 degree celcius weather here might ruin it over the 25-30 days it will take to get here.

Matt

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2007, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/43 "2007-01-30T07:34:25Z")

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I’ve actually had great results from both The Edge and NPA. However I’m an androstenone deficient Asian male and can pour it on and reap excellent results. I’ve worn Scent of Eros nearly everyday at work for the past couple years. I’ve only shunned it for the past week while testing another product. Also the chemset stuff such as A-1 and beta Androstenol have been excellent albeit way too pricey (have gone elsewhere).

However I have a long list of ineffective Love Scent stuff: Impi, Chikara, Liquid Trust, WAGG, Essence of Woman & Perception. I don’t think they’re necessarily doggie doo, but they didn’t work for me. Some of the scented The Edge variants like Heat hurt my nose. I prefer unscented whenever possible as I like to use my own covers.

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**Author:** ![Matthew1982ct](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/matthew1982ct/32/1157_2.png) [@Matthew1982ct](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matthew1982ct)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 6:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/44 "2007-01-31T06:03:13Z")

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And how would you rate SOE overall; after a couple of years of almost everyday use? You must have had some good experiences with it!?

Matt

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/45 "2007-01-31T07:20:09Z")

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Scent of Eros rocks. Just wish the mixture would stay more consistent. Seems to go bad after awhile…which is why I prefer IO. Its more consistent

I might brew some SOE myself one day. 4:1 anol:rone mixture, without the oily, roll-ball mess.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 7:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/46 "2007-01-31T07:39:53Z")

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I’ve been cookin’ up ma fake Scent of Eros (alcohol carrier) for some time, mainly so I can mix with cologne and deliver on the run with a pocket atomizer. Simple but extremely effective mix. However I still keep a roll-on in the phero locker. I haven’t had problems with stored bottles going bad. However, I pour 1/4-1/3 bottle in an empty roll-on and keep it for daily use. Reduces contamination of the mother ship. Otherwise stray skin cell, hairs, microbes, cologne residue, sweat, etc., can make the mix go funky half way down the bottle.

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**Author:** ![AdamQuilt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/adamquilt/32/5227_2.png) [@AdamQuilt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AdamQuilt)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/47 "2008-10-30T03:49:36Z")

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Chikara is one of my favorite pheromones. From what I’ve experienced, the combination of androstenone, androstenol, and androsterone makes women more submissive.

Be careful not to put too much of this stuff on because it is fairly strong and with too much - you will reak.

Overall, it’s been quite effective for me in attracting ladies.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 7:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/48 "2008-10-30T07:01:49Z")

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Cool, this thread is almost 2 years old!

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/49 "2008-10-30T09:51:48Z")

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Yeah but all the main characters - SoE and Chikara - not to mention Gegogi - are still around. LOL.

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**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/50 "2009-02-24T20:05:48Z")

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Chikara works well for me for girls my age and also older women, I’m 25.  
The edge or npa solo scares women away from me.  
Alter Ego makes women follow me around and does a number on 35 yrs plus women.  
2 dabs te and Alter ego makes older women molest my arms in public. When AE hits it hits good other wise it scares women away also.

So more chikara for me.

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/51 "2009-02-24T21:39:42Z")

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My favorites that I tested from LS are NPA

after that Alpha 7 unscented

and then SOE unscented but have to make sure I use enough first time i bought it had no idea what i was doing and just put a few dabs on

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 9:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/52 "2009-02-25T09:14:07Z")

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Cool! Zombie thread! I prefer SoE over Chikara, but I’ve found you can get similar results from a combo of IG and IO. Basically good social, friendly vibes. I did get some gelpacks of Chikara once before and wasn’t too impressed. Like Gegogi reported those many years ago (LOL) I got zilch out of it.

However, LS will always have a customer in me if for nothing else than NPA. I’d be interested if Androtics ever decides to come up with a product designed strictly as a cologne additive. I imagine I could get similar results from the Experimone androstenone, but there’s just something about NPA. Perhaps the “supar sekret” other [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) it contains…?

-D4

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/53 "2009-02-25T09:15:35Z")

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Need to get some NPA!

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 9:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/54 "2009-02-25T09:21:24Z")

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> [@mikotorocks714](#):
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> Need to get some NPA!

Standard test: 1 part NPA to 5 parts cologne of your choice mixed in a clean, empty to-go vial. Let sit in a cool, dark place for a week, giving it a good shake once a day or so. The end result will be very interesting. In fact, you could mix it with Aqua Velva and girls would be like “OMG, what cologne is that!?” I’ve had good results mixing with Drakkar Noir and Issey Miyake Intense. NPA is heavy androstenone and some other undisclosed pheromone, but the -none in it is what seems to get all the press. It’s straight up sex in a bottle.

EDITED TO ADD: You can use it immediately, of course, but I’ve found that as it sits for several days, the mixture really solidifies into something completely new. Sort of like how peanut butter and jelly, when combined, is much better than the parts seperated.

-D4

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 9:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/55 "2009-02-25T09:28:30Z")

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> [@data4](#):
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> Standard test: 1 part NPA to 5 parts cologne of your choice mixed in a clean, empty to-go vial. Let sit in a cool, dark place for a week, giving it a good shake once a day or so. The end result will be very interesting. In fact, you could mix it with Aqua Velva and girls would be like “OMG, what cologne is that!?” I’ve had good results mixing with Drakkar Noir and Issey Miyake Intense. NPA is heavy androstenone and some other undisclosed pheromone, but the -none in it is what seems to get all the press. It’s straight up sex in a bottle.
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> -D4

Ah, so I hear! Need it! So that would be one drop of NPA and the rest of the to-go bottle filled with the scent of your choice if I’m guessing right? If so, how about two drops? Ooo! _Suspenseful music._

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/56 "2009-02-25T09:32:16Z")

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It’s going to be a bit more than a drop… heh. I just took a ruler and measured from the bottom of the vial to the tiny little white rubber washer in the sprayer screwtop, and divided it into 6 equal parts, drawing lines for each part. Then, I added the NPA to the first line from the bottom, and filled it the rest of the way with cologne. That was the first time, anyway. Now I just eyeball it, since I know fairly well how much is 1/6th of the vial.

-D4

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**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/57 "2009-02-25T09:41:20Z")

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> [@data4](#):
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> It’s going to be a bit more than a drop… heh. I just took a ruler and measured from the bottom of the vial to the tiny little white rubber washer in the sprayer screwtop, and divided it into 6 equal parts, drawing lines for each part. Then, I added the NPA to the first line from the bottom, and filled it the rest of the way with cologne. That was the first time, anyway. Now I just eyeball it, since I know fairly well how much is 1/6th of the vial.
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> -D4

Ah, good my fellow -none brother. Can’t wait to get it, but I was just curious about the sizes; would getting the bigger bottle be more of value and in the long run worth the money? Or does the small bottle also last as long?

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 12:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/58 "2009-02-25T12:48:50Z")

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> [@data4](#):
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> Standard test: 1 part NPA to 5 parts cologne of your choice mixed in a clean, empty to-go vial. Let sit in a cool, dark place for a week, giving it a good shake once a day or so. The end result will be very interesting. In fact, you could mix it with Aqua Velva and girls would be like “OMG, what cologne is that!?” I’ve had good results mixing with Drakkar Noir and Issey Miyake Intense. NPA is heavy androstenone and some other undisclosed pheromone, but the -none in it is what seems to get all the press. It’s straight up sex in a bottle.
> 
> EDITED TO ADD: You can use it immediately, of course, but I’ve found that as it sits for several days, the mixture really solidifies into something completely new. Sort of like how peanut butter and jelly, when combined, is much better than the parts seperated.
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> -D4

I like to to live dangerously i don’t even bother mixing

what i do is take out the stopper it comes with and use a glass bulb dropper i bought from rite aid for 99 cents and take 2 drops and put on finger and then dab one on on the neck by carotid artery and spread. The other drop i dab behind ears and spread

then i spray and cover with my favorite cologne of choice

I have yet to OD and seems to work great

Granted this might not work for everyone but seems to work good for me and have had great results just wearing NPA alone but many times I like to put SOE with it and for the price you cannot beat it $50 for both SOE and NPA is a superb combo

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**Author:** ![texaspete](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/texaspete/32/1612_2.png) [@texaspete](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/texaspete)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/59 "2009-02-25T14:41:37Z")

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I had a ton of sample gel packs and kept trying it until I ran out recently.  
Chikara never worked for me at all, no results, positive or negative, at any dose.  
On the other hand, SEO+Chikara=Instant Doormat.

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chikara-does-it-work/1631/60 "2009-02-25T15:38:28Z")

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NPA is some potent stuff. Definitely heavy artillary. The Edge is some strong stuff too.

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