# clarification on boys **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 30, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992 "2006-11-30T14:18:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/1 "2006-11-30T14:18:25Z")
I would like clarification on what is probably common-knowledge with you guys here… Is there a natural 'none spike (given off) in reponse to the inner testosterone spike? Say, if [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) were to cause the test spike, do you naturally give off more of one pheromone than another, or does what your body produce in the way of pheromones have more to do with diet and excersize? ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/2 "2006-11-30T19:21:27Z")
Lor, JVK might be the person to ask this, just a suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/3 "2006-11-30T23:21:27Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Lor, > JVK might be the person to ask this, just a suggestion. oh your absolutley right Mtnjim, but i am no longer welcome at LS and i know of no other way to contact him. eventually the answer will come to light, it always does, just not always right when i ask it 🙂 i used to love picking his brain, he was always so willing to educate. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/4 "2006-12-01T00:59:30Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > oh your absolutley right Mtnjim, but i am no longer welcome at Love Scent and i know of no other way to contact him. I just checked, you’re not “Banned”, so you could PM him if you don’t want to do a public posting. Don’t know why a sweetie like you wouldn’t be welcome anywhere.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/5 "2006-12-01T01:06:45Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > I just checked, you’re not “Banned”, so you could PM him if you don’t want to do a public posting. Don’t know why a sweetie like you wouldn’t be welcome anywhere.🙄 thats an idea, and i appreciate the effort to check, thank you. i will ask permission to share that information, if thats an option, and if not i will offer my version of it so that it can be put to rest…not that anyone else seems to be losing sleep over the question,lol. for the record,i promise i used my manners and behaved politely 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/6 "2006-12-01T02:10:59Z")
Lor, im losing sleep over your question, believe me I am! its a great question, only if I could understand it…😕 Lor, they all cared for you at the other forum, in fact I think il just a new thread, the we want Lor back thread! ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 7:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/7 "2006-12-01T07:24:35Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > oh your absolutley right Mtnjim, but i am no longer welcome at Love Scent and i know of no other way to contact him. eventually the answer will come to light, it always does, just not always right when i ask it 🙂 > i used to love picking his brain, he was always so willing to educate. As what jim said, why anyone wouldn’t welcome a sweetie like you! By not welcoming a sweet person as you is a near sin..as far as I can say..🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 8:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/8 "2006-12-01T08:13:18Z")
Wow… Some people have incredibly short memories, and should mind their own beeswax. Lor was only ever an amazing, helpful and intuitive poster over at LS, and she got shafted, plain and simple. Lor and I are what some people stupidly refer to as boat-rockers, and that was frowned upon. We should have watched our “P’s” and “Q’s”, but instead, like the strong women we are, we spoke our minds, didn’t mollycoddle people, and suffered for it. So what? We are not any worse off than we were. We just both got a bit more life experience to add to the pot.. Lor and I call a spade a spade and we are NOT going to pussy-foot around this issue or any other, so certain people should be aware that we are NOT impressed by their supposed “changed person” act. NOT AT ALL. At least here, Lor and others get the respect they so deserve, and have many good, like-minded friends. I am more than aware Lor can talk for herself, but I will always stand up for those deserving of me doing so. Lor, let me look into that on Monday, as one of the people I have a meeting with then, can give a much better take on your question than I can. I’ll either post when I get a definitive answer, or will PM you. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/9 "2006-12-01T15:02:43Z")
wow Ail, thanks so much. i agree. ive always wondered how wearing or using these pheromones might encourage or discourage our own phero-production, i know it enhances it, and i hypothesize it for the most part increases phero-output. reason being is that if i am turned on, i put out (no the sentence does not end there!) stronger pheros assumed by the reaction i get without behavioural support. if someone is wearing a pheromone that turns me on, and i begin to respond hormonally and then pheromonally,lol, it would appear to be a _loop_. in response to the forums, i DO infact feel supported and respected for my opinions here, i like the the contrast of opinions. there is also more of a family vibe here, as opposed to a “click” feeling( which is okay but not for me) Add that to a great product, fun attitudes and a genuine administrator with integrity (😛 jas…) and why would anyone NOT post here??? Anyhoo, its comforting to have people responding to my posts that have integrity.Thanks,Ail.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/10 "2006-12-01T15:16:47Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > … > . reason being is that if i am turned on, i put out (no the sentence does not end there!) > > … Was I going to say something? Were any of us here going to say anything? Of course not… 🙄 (yeah right…😛 ) > [@Lor](#): > > in response to the forums, i DO infact feel supported and respected for my opinions here, i like the the contrast of opinions. there is also more of a family vibe here, as opposed to a “click” feeling( which is okay but not for me) And that’s “clique” woman! No relation to a female body part either… 😃 **Main Entry:** clique **Function:** _noun_ **Pronunciation:**'klek, 'klik **Etymology:** French **:** a narrow exclusive circle or group of persons ; _especially_ **:** one held together by common interests, views, or purposes **- cliqu·ey** _also_ **cliquy** /_'kle-ke, 'kli-_/ _adjective_ **- cliqu·ish** /'kli-kish/ _adjective_ **- cliqu·ish·ly** _adverb_ **- cliqu·ish·ness** _noun_ (Yeah we’re up to about 12" of snow [30cm] already and it’s still falling and I’m stuck here and getting ornery…) ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/11 "2006-12-01T17:51:13Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Wow… > > Some people have incredibly short memories, … I keep missing out. I guess I missed what happened there. I remember a couple of years ago, I went away for the week end and when I came back a whole slew of regulars had been banned. I missed out on what happened there too. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 9:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/12 "2006-12-01T21:20:27Z")
I Cant Spel Fer Sheet > [@Rbt](#): > > Was I going to say something? Were any of us here going to say anything? Of course not… > 🙄 > > (yeah right…😛 ) > > And that’s “clique” woman! No relation to a female body part either… > 😃 > > **Main Entry:** clique > **Function:** _noun_ > **Pronunciation:**'klek, 'klik > **Etymology:** French > **:** a narrow exclusive circle or group of persons ; _especially_ **:** one held together by common interests, views, or purposes > **- cliqu·ey** _also_ **cliquy** /_'kle-ke, 'kli-_/ _adjective_ > **- cliqu·ish** /'kli-kish/ _adjective_ > **- cliqu·ish·ly** _adverb_ > **- cliqu·ish·ness** _noun_ > > (Yeah we’re up to about 12" of snow [30cm] already and it’s still falling and I’m stuck here and getting ornery…) Rbt, im going to beat you with a dictionary when you roll into tampa!😠 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2006, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/13 "2006-12-01T21:38:12Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > Rbt, im going to beat you with a dictionary when you roll into tampa!😠 Can I watch?----please!😮 ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/14 "2006-12-02T00:53:00Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Wow… > > Some people have incredibly short memories, and should mind their own beeswax. > > Lor was only ever an amazing, helpful and intuitive poster over at Love Scent, and she got shafted, plain and simple. Lor and I are what some people stupidly refer to as boat-rockers, and that was frowned upon. We should have watched our “P’s” and “Q’s”, but instead, like the strong women we are, we spoke our minds, didn’t mollycoddle people, and suffered for it. > > So what? We are not any worse off than we were. We just both got a bit more life experience to add to the pot.. > > Lor and I call a spade a spade and we are NOT going to pussy-foot around this issue or any other, so certain people should be aware that we are NOT impressed by their supposed “changed person” act. > > NOT AT ALL. > > At least here, Lor and others get the respect they so deserve, and have many good, like-minded friends. I am more than aware Lor can talk for herself, but I will always stand up for those deserving of me doing so. > > Lor, let me look into that on Monday, as one of the people I have a meeting with then, can give a much better take on your question than I can. > > I’ll either post when I get a definitive answer, or will PM you. > > Ail 🙂 Ail, im with you on this one, and agree with you 100%!!! mollycoddle??? I have to add this one to my Lexicon!! so cute!!! ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/15 "2006-12-02T01:24:00Z")
There are words for you, mate - but me? I’m a REAL lady, and don’t use them. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/16 "2006-12-02T02:09:32Z")
Ail, your as fiery as your hair color, you sure are a Scot. Try not to keep grudges Lady Ail, after all, we both have something in common, our love for Dr.Dodd. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/17 "2006-12-02T03:07:40Z")
Back to topic. Lor, the first q I understand. > [@Lor](#): > > Is there a natural 'none spike (given off) in reponse to the inner testosterone spike? i.e., internal Teste level causing pheromones output. Now, isen’t the following part a different q ?, ie., the Teste level (is caused by) phero application. > [@Lor](#): > > Say, if pheromones were to cause the test spike, do you naturally give off more of one pheromone than another, or does what your body produce in the way of pheromones have more to do with diet and excersize? So, to answer the first question. It is said in many places that men producing more Teste are seen as manly-attractive to women. This is where the science stops, though. The reason is not proven … is it phero’s output, which phero, how much .. is it attitude .. is it the body language or even tone in voice … Many educated guesses, even repeated documented observations, but not concrete evidence or research to support either cause. Not that I found anyway anywhere. So, even with the ton of suggestions around, I’m still interested to see if there is some research done. Forgot to mention .. doing searches on Teste for men is a gem on its own .. All those wonderful things people want Teste to ‘grow’ for them. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/18 "2006-12-02T03:39:31Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > oh your absolutley right Mtnjim, but i am no longer welcome at Love Scent and i know of no other way to contact him. eventually the answer will come to light, it always does, just not always right when i ask it 🙂 > i used to love picking his brain, he was always so willing to educate. Lor, JV Kohl has an email address posted on his website; look on the page about his book. I think he’d probably be able to answer this for you and I’d love to know what he says! ---
**Author:** ![terry0400-40](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/terry0400-40/32/1915_2.png) [@terry0400-40](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/terry0400-40)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/19 "2006-12-02T08:29:40Z")
> [@Rbt](#): > > Was I going to say something? Were any of us here going to say anything? Of course not… > 🙄 > > (yeah right…😛 ) > > And that’s “clique” woman! No relation to a female body part either… > 😃 > > **Main Entry:** clique > **Function:** _noun_ > **Pronunciation:**'klek, 'klik > **Etymology:** French > **:** a narrow exclusive circle or group of persons ; _especially_ **:** one held together by common interests, views, or purposes > **- cliqu·ey** _also_ **cliquy** /_'kle-ke, 'kli-_/ _adjective_ > **- cliqu·ish** /'kli-kish/ _adjective_ > **- cliqu·ish·ly** _adverb_ > **- cliqu·ish·ness** _noun_ > > (Yeah we’re up to about 12" of snow [30cm] already and it’s still falling and I’m stuck here and getting ornery…) Well some people have all the luck, here i am with my little fan going beside the pc as i recount my A314 adventures on P-T , I have just had to turn the fan off because the temperature has dropped to a chilly 27 celcius ha ha . AT least i have finished my housework and chores, and if i land a job i will really be the man.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2006, 1:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992/20 "2006-12-02T13:45:29Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > I would like clarification on what is probably common-knowledge with you guys here… > Is there a natural 'none spike (given off) in reponse to the inner testosterone spike? > Say, if pheromones were to cause the test spike, do you naturally give off more of one pheromone than another, or does what your body produce in the way of pheromones have more to do with diet and excersize? Hi Lor I am pretty sure that higher serum testosterone/androgen levels over time will lead to a stronger phero signature. I don’t know how quickly a testosterone spike (whether induced by a contest for dominance or by exposure to cops) feeds through into stronger phero output. My guess is that it happens within minutes though. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/clarification-on-boys/992.md?page=2)