# Co-Worker Target -- A Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [March 27, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075 "2015-03-27T01:50:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/1 "2015-03-27T01:50:32Z")

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So, I decided to start this journal today after I received my AMMO and IH.

Now, I’ve been using pheromones for quite some time now. I’ve started using them in high school back in '08. Now, 7 years later, I have a better idea of how women work, how people in general work, how I work, how to create attraction, and how to gain respect from colleagues.

With that being said, gone are my days of showing up to class with 9 different [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) on and getting the extreme ghost effect (feeling as if everyone is talking about me, yet know one is acknowledging my existence – and I’m not even a depressed person).

I’ve decided to start this journal with my co-teacher (a BEAUTIFUL, socially conservative 23 year old white girl who has been sheltered most of her life) and my students (inner city, underprivileged black 11 year olds) as my test group.

I’ve been using **A314** by itself (with some John Varvatos cologne, if you must know) here and there. These are my results (larger dosage – 3 or 4 drops):  
**Students**  
-Students seem more intimidated by me  
-The students who don’t understand that I’m WITH them, not AGAINST them were more defiant than usual  
-Lower self-esteemed students were more willing to follow directions  
-Female students begin telling me I’m their favorite teacher (weird)  
-Boys take an interest in me as a human being

**Other Teachers (Night of Drinking)**  
-Older teachers: Hanging on to my every word. Checking out my tattoo. VERY interested in me. Ones closer to 50 were very inquisitive.  
-Younger teachers: Ones in their 30s were a bit flirty (saw one laughing while sucking on the end of her fork)

**Co-Teacher**  
-A BIT intense, and intimidated. I usually let her take control of the classroom, but if I say “hold on, I’m doing something,” I sort of get a “yes sir, absolutely sir” reaction from her  
- **when drinking:** she felt as if she had something to prove to me (indirectly told me about boys she was talking to, high fiving her roommate for being “crazy in bed”)

With a smaller dose of A314:  
-I actively used body language of high sexuality, interest, and value. Get the sense of uncertainty from her  
-Very “hot & cold”  
-Seems coy (body language says “I find you attractive and I think I might like you,” words say “we’re professional”)  
-A bit of sexual tension in the air (or is it just me exuding a butterfly “crush” feeling?)  
-Give her straight eye contact, she keeps the eye contact, then looks away, then sometimes back at me  
-Sometimes lights up when I have a quick anecdote to share with her. Other times, will act with disinterest “oh yeah?” _walks away_  
-When a close friend comes into the classroom, she gives him/her undivided attention. Today, the dean (who she’s friendly with) came into the classroom, she was facing him, her chest and feet were facing me  
-How she sits in her stool has been a huge indication of (dis)interest, sometimes her dominant foot is pointing right at me, other times away from me (hot & cold)

A lot of her body language cues are very ambiguous. Not enough to say definitively one way or the other.

Tomorrow, I test 2 shots of AMMO to the neck, 1 shot of IH to the wrist. Hopefully those IOIs are more prevalent, but I could see her closing off if she feels too sexually bothered (again, socially conservative). Also, she may want to disassociate the feeling of being “turned on” from work.

**She broke up with her boyfriend of 4 years in January,** and has been talking to a few guys via phone apps and friends of friends (1 guy in particular makes me a LITTLE nervous). I’m a bit jealous, but she makes it a point to hide all that information from me (if she suspects me glancing at her phone when it lights up, she will grab it and put it in her pocket), and I wonder if any IOIs she shows me are just the feeling of attraction she has from whatever guy she’s texting (good news – by her talking to a lot of guys means she’s, apparently, emotionally available AND hasn’t singled out one guy as “the next boyfriend.” So, the way I see it, I’ve got as good a chance as any).

Ever since I’ve made it explicitly clear that I think she’s a very attractive girl, she hasn’t Snapchatted me or text messaged me (she sends long text messages to other guys – I’m not too worried about all of this. We see enough of each other throughout the day). Also, I “right-swiped” her on Tinder, she had me right-swiped and deleted me (my guess–she wanted to see whether I showed interest).

Lets see what happens.

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2015, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/2 "2015-03-28T00:01:49Z")

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Today with the Co-Teacher

**1 spray of IH applied to inner left arm  
2 sprays of AMMO, 1 on each side of neck**

**REAPPLIED 6 HOURS LATER: 1 spray of IH applied to inner right arm, 1 spray AMMO to neck**

So I was SO excited to see how hot and bothered I could get her introducing some -none and IH to the classroom, but alas, misfortune hit.

For the FIRST DAY ALL YEAR, all the teachers in the computer lab were out, and I had to cover all day. Twist of fate?

But we had SOME interesting interactions:

In the morning, she’s usually very out of it and tired. We NEVER say hello/goodbye to each other from work (which I’m OK with). Armed with AMMO and IH, I went to tell her I was in the computer lab. Big smile, big eyes (but not necessarily dilated pupils). “HAVE FUN! IT’S GOING TO BE A S-H-I-T-S-H-O-W!” This was in the library. As she left the library, I could have sworn she looked at me through the windows as I looked at her.

We both had VERY stressful days. We have another co-teacher in the classroom for 2 out of our 4 classes (she’s the special education specialist) and, for lack of a better word/phrase, she isn’t very good at her job. My co-teacher was very frustrated. I went in the classroom to talk to her REALLY quick, and I VERY gently put my hand on her lower back. She wasn’t repulsed. But I told her, “ugh! Shoot me now!” She said, “I have to work with this \*\*\*\*\*\*. I’ll switch with you!”

She’s a real rule follower. She’ll follow the rules to a tee. But when I’m doing something that’s not technically allowed, she’ll remind me, and I’ll play it off as “eh, I don’t care. I’m going to do what I want to do until I get caught,” and I think she kind of likes this about me (turn on?)

Yesterday, I didn’t stay throughout my entire morning duty post, when she told me that I could get in a lot of trouble, I shrugged my shoulders, and she smiled.

Today, she told me I could get in a lot of trouble because I decided I wanted to be in the classroom with her. She gave me a slightly mouth open smile.

I CONTINUED to show not so subtle interest in her through body language without using ANY verbal language at all. I noticed she had her arms around her chest area, outlining her breasts. She did this in the morning when standing next to her best friend (got me a little nervous), but I also saw her pulling these four hits on me for the little stint I had in her classroom (before I was asked to go back to the lab):

1. The leg cross with top leg pointing at me
2. Outlining her breasts with her hand
3. Seemed to be petting her thigh
4. Playing with a pen  
She wasn’t however, physically LOOKING at me when she was doing these things.

The **biggest “hit”** was I walked RIGHT up to her and RIGHT BETWEEN HER CROSSED LEGS. So I’m standing between her crossed legs, looking her dead in the eyes, and she says something like: “I’m writing my love notes” or “I’m getting all the love notes.” Not sure what that meant, but that HAD to be a turn-on. She seemed OK with this.

Then, during a class, I passed her classroom, and saw she was yelling at the kids. I wanted to go in, but instead, I went past because I didn’t want to disrupt. Her eyes met mine.

Then, during the LAST class of the day, I was AGAIN passing her classroom and her door was open. She was JUST telling the kids I wasn’t going to be in there as I passed, so she sticks her head out the door and says with a big smile, “you’re not coming in, right?”

Then, at the very end of the day, a very interesting hit (or was it just happenstance?) We were both in another teacher’s classroom. I was trying to leave and she was trying to leave at the same time. I was walking up behind her. She stopped to pause for whatever reason, and went to turn around to talk to another teacher. I was moving forward and just for a SPLIT quarter of a second, her hand hit mine – my palm being held up (a sign of dominance) and hers being face down (a sign of submissiveness). It seemed so quick and meaningless, but perhaps it was our subconscious minds telling each other what we wanted?

Lastly, and again, this was small but I think meaningful, I went back to that classroom. She did too. I had music on. We weren’t talking. She left, almost looking a little aggravated. I’m in the room by myself, another FEMALE teacher my age comes in, we start talking, laughing. I see her exit her classroom (across the hall), and I look directly at her. She looks at me, sees that I see her, and looks away.

UNFORTUNATELY, I probably won’t see her for about another 10 days. I’m hoping the Law of Scarcity will kick in, and she’ll miss me (or she can be having wild sex with the guy she met through friends and still texts–who knows).

I also that when we make eye contact, she either looks me directly in the eye, or her head is kind of bowed down, and her eyeballs are rolled upwards towards mine (I’m assuming another sign of submissiveness–looking up at your master).

ALL of this could be me reading a lot into the signs, but I just feel as if it’s not.

We have 18 days left together in the classroom. I plan on continuing this AMMO+IH frenzy with her, and I think at the VERY last week with her (last 5 days), I may throw in \*\*P96 \*\*into the mix.

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/3 "2015-04-06T22:27:12Z")

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**BACK TO WORK mix:**  
Decided I didn’t want to load up on -none because haven’t seen my target girl in a week (nor have we spoken). We had professional development today, so I decided to buffer with a little more IH than usual because I was going to be around other people.

What I went with:  
**2 sprays AMMO  
3 sprays IH**

Will go back to 2 sprays AMMO, 1 spray IH tomorrow, when I’ll have her one-on-one.

**Self-Effects**  
I was trying to spread myself out today during prof. development (sitting in a chair), but found myself struggling. Also, for whatever reason, wasn’t sure what to do with my hands.

I’m sitting alone at a small table, and 2 friends of mine (female) sit down by me. I started singing a song, one of the girls made note of it, and I said something like, “I’m adorable, what can I say?” Both girls laughed.

Then, we have to meet up in teams. I was talking to the one girl about my future roommate (a girl) and how she was playing hard to get. Then, my target comes over, says ‘hi’ to me, and she keeps asking what I’m talking about when I bring up this girl (“oh, just a future roommate, nothing serious.”) She then whips out her phone and starts Tindering.

**HITS(?)**  
-I found myself playing with a Sharpie, and trying to force myself to put it down. I can’t seem to sit comfortably. What I notice about her is, at one point, her foot was crossed over her leg, and her toes were up against my leg. Not sure if she noticed this, but after about 3 minutes, she changed positions.

-Her “best friend” (the one she claims she is in love with) keeps looking over at us. A lot. I think something is up between them, or he is in love with her. He’s all up in her face during social events, but they never get intimate (but she seems to like the attention). **I find myself MUCH more socially aware**

-She dismisses herself to the bathroom, and tells me (and seemingly, ONLY me), “I need to go use the bathroom. I’ll be right back.” She comes back from bathroom with COMPLETELY closed off body language. Her arms are crossed, and she is looking down (passes her best friend–again, weird). She sits down, closes her body off completely (wraps sweater around herself, sits Indian style on chair). **Not looking good for me**

-I go talk to my friend who was sitting by me earlier (she’s aware of my crush). She told me that she thought it was VERY odd that she’d be so questioning about who I’m talking about (wait…what? when I bring up future roommate situation)

-Later on in day, we have conversation with our English teacher (50 year old). I told my crush “I thought we were going to hate each other first couple of weeks of school. I was only half wrong because you know I love you.” She laughs, makes a joke about hating me

- **Best Hit?:** I make a comment to her how she got a lot of color. She says “OMG I KNOW! THIS IS THE BEST TAN I’VE EVER GOTTEN!” She pulls up her sleeve, and puts her arm up against mine, touching arms for a second

-Seeing as she is alone in her room, I go in and use the opportunity to sort of “game” her. She asked me to do her a favor, I declined. “Eh, not into it.” I sat down next to her, crossed my leg, spoke slowly, deeply, just oozing confidence. Our eyes meet, and her voice sort of softens up (sounded almost like bedroom voice). I decide to NOT let the conversation drag on, I leave room. As I leave, she apologizes for not being attentive enough (I thought she was fine). I told her, “eh. Just thinking out loud.”

-Before leaving, we got together in teams again. Seemed as if she was trying to walk away from me. One of us had to present, and she shouted my name and volunteered me (gee, thanks)

**NOT anything screaming attraction, NOTHING too interesting.**

As I was leaving, a girl I work with called me over to tell me, “so it looks like [girl’s best friend] and [my crush] really have a thing for each other, huh? Something’s a-brewing…”

“They are just best friends.”

“They were REALLY close at [social event I didn’t attend].”

Thoughts? Ideas? Time to just give it a rest?

Again, tomorrow it’ll be just her and me in the classroom again, so that’s my best opportunity to sort of “game” her.

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/4 "2015-04-08T04:05:48Z")

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**April 7**  
Armed with **2-3 drops A314 (wrists, behind ears), AND 1 spray IH on right arm artery**

Beginning to think that she doesn’t take A314 very well. Is it possible that I’ve put her into “fallout” in a negative connotation (she sees me as high valued, and that’s why she put that show on for me when she was drunk). Perhaps I seem unattainable to her when I’m wearing A314?

Long shot, but possible

**Self-Effects**  
I love A314. I feel like a boss. Sometimes I even wonder if I’m coming off as arrogant, WAY too self-assured. I’m calmer, a little giddy with the IH, students seem to be mostly responsive to me (even if defiant, they’re nice about it HAHA), and I walk around as if I’m 6 inches taller.

**Effects on Target**  
I walk in classroom, and she just seems a little aloof. A sense of apathy, just going through the motions of the day. Don’t think this had anything to do with [pheromones](https://a314.com/) though (tired, perhaps?) She was MUCH more responsive with Ammo+IH

**Hits (and lack thereof)**  
For maybe the first time (or at least first time I’m noticing it), she’s VERY formal and professional with me. No joking around, no laughs, no smiles, nothing.

I’m learning that crossed leg body language is VERY difficult to decipher. I got excited that she was pointing the foot towards me and flexing her foot quite a bit. Whenever I’d change position in the room, it seemed that more times than not, that foot was following me (even if I had to wait, at times). **HOWEVER,** I saw her holding her legs tight during her leg crosses quite a bit (a sign of “you’re not getting in”).

When she was standing, she took to my stances of dominance and “taking up space” with crossing her legs, calf on top of shin.

**Most interesting hit:** I was standing by her, and as she passed me, she threw her hair to the OPPOSITE side of me, throw something in the garbage can, walk by me again while twiddling with the OTHER side of her hair.

I think, at least until A1 comes through (I’m going to try to fallout her), my best bet has been AMMO(2 sprays) and 1 spray IH. Maybe with the a-nol, she sees me as completely harmless (NOT a good thing).

Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/5 "2015-04-09T04:46:20Z")

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**Calling it a Wrap**  
So, I was considering the 2 spray AMMO + 1 spray IH mix with her again b/c she responded SO well with it before, but I had to re-interview for a job next year, and the job matters more to me than she does. Stuck with 2 drops of A314 – and that’s it.

LONG story short – **no IOIs. At all**. Reading her body language, I DID see she did the whole “crossed legs, leading foot putting at me” thing a lot, but other than that, she seemed closed off. Also, I think she’s into her best friend (I went to the bathroom, came back, caught her staring at either him or me, but I think him, AND then shortly thereafter, saw him staring at her. Something amiss).

Only thing that happened ALL day worth noting is the kids had a quiz today. They were told when they finished to draw something on the back. She said “some students drew me and [my name].” I saw kids snickering, so I said, “separately” which she responded, “you didn’t have to say that.” I said, “I know what they’re thinking.”

Some kids drew a wedding picture of us. One kid drew a heart with our names in it and said “just friends.” My co-teacher called me over to look at it. I said, “cute.”

COULD be disappointment that I essentially friend-zoned her on the spot, but it’s just not worth analyzing.

A1 comes in the mail on Friday. I will wear it on Tuesday. Still going to see if I can get her in fallout, but at this point, it’s just highly experimental. Although she only REALLY knows me professionally and we’ve never hung out socially, I feel as if her mind is made up on me. My best chance is to just get her in a state of lust and hoping she’ll try to fulfill that lust at some point (i.e. ONS).

Will wear AMMO+IH mix tomorrow and will still continue to journal with her, but at this point, EVERYTHING is only for science and research sake. I think I will at least TRYOUT my fallout mix on her so I can perfect it when another beauty walks into my life.

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/6 "2015-04-10T15:54:11Z")

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**A Little More, But Not Enough**  
April 9

Today, I went back to the 1 spray IH, 2 sprays AMMO mix.

She seems to get along with this mix better. Not much I could say, but it seems as if here flirtatious body language is almost completely gone, but she’s a bit more smiley towards me.

**One thing to note:** She called me a ‘friend’ to the kids (not in context of “just friends,” but rather “Mr. [My name] is a true friend, he’s got my back!” I do believe that she thinks that I may have friendzoned her though. All the kids are curious as to who I’m constantly texting, and they found out HER name.

I’m excited because A1 comes in the mail today. As I draw nearer towards the end of my tenure with her, I won’t have MUCH time that I’m with her for long periods of time, BUT I’m going to attempt a fallout mix, and continue the journal about that.

My fallout mix is going to be simple, for starters:  
1 drop A314  
10 mcg. A1  
I MIGHT throw in some IH+IS, also looking at other putatives (P96).

My journal will be about my fallout from here on.

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**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/7 "2015-04-10T16:51:41Z")

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Interesting journal here! I am tempted to say that you seem to overdo things as I read your second entry. But I will follow this thread’s progress to see where will the simple fall-out mix lead us. 🙂

Subscribed! 😃

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/8 "2015-04-10T18:11:50Z")

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A few thoughts:

1 - You told her you found her attractive and she stopped responding to you on other media. That says a lot!

2 - Blows hot and cold - a major red flag! An attracted woman seldom makes it difficult to understand her attraction.

3 - MArked difference in attention - Even where she covers other IOIs well, an attracted woman usually makes you the centre of her attention, even when she’s trying to hide that she’s doing it.

4 - Recently out of a long (for her age) LTR. Usually women in this position are more concerned with “growing” a bit before getting back into a relationship.

5 - She knows you are interested in her online interactions and hides them. She’s also got a load of guys on the go. That’s attention seeking by anyone’s standard.

6 - You told her you fancied her! A - Thats like saying she can play you for all she’s worth B - she stopped online interaction. **MAJOR** red flag/IOD - almost FOAD-level!

7 - Talking about other guys/being crazy in bed. She’s more or less told you that nothing is going to be serious for her FTM. Also an astoundingly good attention-getting/hooking-in tactic. I’ve seen many guys caught by this one before - they all want a bit of a woman like that and she knows it!

8 - You are putting a lot of store in many small and spaced-out bits of body language/behaviour, yes they will mean something when a lot of them start happening at once but spaced-out over many days, no. Or it says that she knows she has your attention/interest and she’ll keep it ticking-over for now.

9 - She claims she’s in love with her best friend - That’s like saying “come-on - do your worst” and about as clear in indicator to leave her to it as you gould get!

10 - She acts-up/flirts in public/before colleagues but shuts you down when 1-on-1. Attention seeking again, or the old Scottish phrase “won’t shit or get-off the pot” seems apt.

11 - Reduction in responses when you started the A314, she now knows you are serious about her. It was also interesting to see that her professional responses increased apace. That should tell you something.

Lastly, have you thought how you are going to go-on with her if you do get an effective fallot developed. All these mixed signals and attention-seeking traits could well increase dramatically as she blows in and out of your life. Some women can develop fallout and hate both you/themselves for it, resulting in some seriously challenging/upsetting behaviour of the “I hate you - don’t leave me” sort!

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/9 "2015-04-10T18:24:00Z")

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> [@Dee\_A](#):
>
> Interesting journal here! I am tempted to say that you seem to overdo things as I read your second entry. But I will follow this thread’s progress to see where will the simple fall-out mix lead us. 🙂
> 
> Subscribed! 😃

Greatly appreciated!

Yeah, I’ve grown rather sensitive to body language, and sometimes it’s really hard to differentiate what someone REALLY means based on what they are verbally telling you and what they are physically telling you. Sometimes, you may think someone is upset or uncomfortable towards you when, in reality, they are dealing with, say, the stress of filling out taxes. Or sometimes, someone sits cross-legged and cross-armed because they are cold and it’s comfortable.

Ultimately, this girl has, essentially become my test subject. She’s absolutely beautiful, and I’m sure there are a bunch of guys competing for her right now (and some that she’s even test driving herself), BUT with pheromones and the trust & rapport I’ve already built with her, I think I may have an advantage.

I don’t think I’m her “friend” nor have I been “friend-zoned,” per se. If she ever mentioned that, I’d tell her, “we aren’t friends. We’re co-workers. I don’t even know you outside of work. We’re family here but when I leave, you don’t exist in my “life outside of work” context.”

Anything that happens AFTER I’m done working with her between us, SHE’LL have to initiate. If she wants to hang out, she has my number. Otherwise, she’s just someone I was once professional with.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/10 "2015-04-10T18:51:07Z")

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Another thing about the body language - I’ve long ovserved that the more immature/inexperienced attention seekers often near-unconsciously throw-out physical IOIs on a continual basis, then close-off their body language when called-out/taken-up on it.

Also does she know you are jealous/concerned by some of her other guys - Letting that slip, even non-verbally can trigger compeitive instincts.

Women seldom explicitly put you in the friendzone - ex’s excepted and absolute omegas maybe. More usually you need to look for the signs because they have not quite shut-off the possibility of attraction. This is where its up to you to decide to move your interest eslewhere.

And it helps to do your testing on a range of elligible women, not just one, potentially unpredictable candidate. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2015, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/co-worker-target-a-journal/64075/11 "2015-04-10T20:03:15Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
>
> A few thoughts:
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> 1 - You told her you found her attractive and she stopped responding to you on other media. That says a lot!
> 
> 2 - Blows hot and cold - a major red flag! An attracted woman seldom makes it difficult to understand her attraction.
> 
> 3 - MArked difference in attention - Even where she covers other IOIs well, an attracted woman usually makes you the centre of her attention, even when she’s trying to hide that she’s doing it.
> 
> 4 - Recently out of a long (for her age) LTR. Usually women in this position are more concerned with “growing” a bit before getting back into a relationship.
> 
> 5 - She knows you are interested in her online interactions and hides them. She’s also got a load of guys on the go. That’s attention seeking by anyone’s standard.
> 
> 6 - You told her you fancied her! A - Thats like saying she can play you for all she’s worth B - she stopped online interaction. **MAJOR** red flag/IOD - almost FOAD-level!
> 
> 7 - Talking about other guys/being crazy in bed. She’s more or less told you that nothing is going to be serious for her FTM. Also an astoundingly good attention-getting/hooking-in tactic. I’ve seen many guys caught by this one before - they all want a bit of a woman like that and she knows it!
> 
> 8 - You are putting a lot of store in many small and spaced-out bits of body language/behaviour, yes they will mean something when a lot of them start happening at once but spaced-out over many days, no. Or it says that she knows she has your attention/interest and she’ll keep it ticking-over for now.
> 
> 9 - She claims she’s in love with her best friend - That’s like saying “come-on - do your worst” and about as clear in indicator to leave her to it as you gould get!
> 
> 10 - She acts-up/flirts in public/before colleagues but shuts you down when 1-on-1. Attention seeking again, or the old Scottish phrase “won’t shit or get-off the pot” seems apt.
> 
> 11 - Reduction in responses when you started the A314, she now knows you are serious about her. It was also interesting to see that her professional responses increased apace. That should tell you something.
> 
> Lastly, have you thought how you are going to go-on with her if you do get an effective fallot developed. All these mixed signals and attention-seeking traits could well increase dramatically as she blows in and out of your life. Some women can develop fallout and hate both you/themselves for it, resulting in some seriously challenging/upsetting behaviour of the “I hate you - don’t leave me” sort!

Thank you so much for this!

If I’m going to be completely honest, I’m conflicted when it comes to her. One of my other hobbies is learning about personality types and psychology, and I’m well versed in Jungian cognitive functions (a more sophisticated version of Myers-Briggs).

What I KNOW about her is that she is the “take it slow, get to know” type. She won’t do the whole one-night stand. However, if she likes a guy enough, she’ll sleep with him once in a while because she wants to please him, but as soon as he starts declaring feelings for her, she gets grossed out and wants little to do with him.

I find her SUPER attractive. I’ll be in class and visually undress her because I absolutely HAVE to see what is underneath (also, she wears skirts some days and tight shirts – sometimes I think she does this JUST to tease me).

BUT, on the other hand, we get along well, but knowing what I know about her Jungian type and her as a human being, we wouldn’t last very long as a couple. Our style of thinking is a little clashing, and our life philosophies are very different (she’s a good Catholic girl, I’m an atheist, she’s family-oriented, I’m not so much, she’s the “white picket fence” type, I’m more of the “wild and free, find a girl that will tame me” type. She’s looking for humble and, perhaps, beta-male type, I’m a little cocky but nice, alpha-type).

Maybe she’s very sensitive to all of that, maybe she sees me as “OMG HE’S SOOOOOOO HOT,” but understands that it won’t work out romantically between us, so I’ve been disqualified as a potential suitor.

I think there is plenty of merit in that line of thinking. Also, I think it does help that there are plenty of other young women at our school that she sees me acting “friendly” towards, and many women (even older ones) that constantly flirt with me.

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The best way to get a girl like this is show her you have other options. I feel you on really liking this girl but the more you put her on a pestal, the farther away she will become. Hangout with some of the pretty girls that are attracted to you and my her see your having a good time. This will up your social value more than anything and it has the makings of attracting her.

So there are two key things you need to do

1. Hang out with girls who are on par with her  
2.don’t put her on a pedestal

Next time you see her pick out something odd about her. An example would be how she dressed. When you say that joke around with her. This will show two things 1. Your not drooling over her 2. You know to have fun

This is the type of a girl who wants to be the center of attenion to me and the best way to attract her is not to give her that attenion. Close her off for a day or two and see what happens.

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> [@Smellymen2002](#):
>
> The best way to get a girl like this is show her you have other options. I feel you on really liking this girl but the more you put her on a pestal, the farther away she will become. Hangout with some of the pretty girls that are attracted to you and my her see your having a good time. This will up your social value more than anything and it has the makings of attracting her.
> 
> So there are two key things you need to do
> 
> 1. Hang out with girls who are on par with her  
> 2.don’t put her on a pedestal
> 
> Next time you see her pick out something odd about her. An example would be how she dressed. When you say that joke around with her. This will show two things 1. Your not drooling over her 2. You know to have fun
> 
> This is the type of a girl who wants to be the center of attenion to me and the best way to attract her is not to give her that attenion. Close her off for a day or two and see what happens.

Funny you should say this.

Actually, I hang out with a lot of women. I took a lady friend to the aquarium and sent out Snapchats of her and me getting VERY close (co-teacher DEFINITELY did see them). In a team meeting, I brought up “going to the aquarium with a friend” to another teacher where she could hear about it. During class (when I’m not really being utilized), I am texting another lady friend (and kids are always asking ‘who’s the girl?’)

So at the end of the day on Thursday (she and I both took off Friday), she mentioned that she was going to “get food with someone.” _cue jealousy tactic_  
IME, if a girl is genuinely not interested in you or has put you in the dreaded friend-zone, they REALLY don’t care if you know that they are going out on dates and with whom they are going out with. It has nothing to do with professionalism (we are all human, we all have lives, we are all looking for love), but rather with “eh, it really doesn’t affect me for you to know that I’m dating/sleeping with another guy.” NOT saying she’s absolutely, definitely into me, but AM saying that I REALLY don’t feel as if I’m in the friend-zone, which means there is still a chance for SOMETHING. I’ll take a date or even a ONS with her, I’m just curious and the best closure would be an opportunity.

HUGE part of me thinks that “someone” was probably just a roommate or a friend, but she said it like that to make me think otherwise. I handled it like a boss – I didn’t react at all (frankly, I’m a LITTLE jealous that she’s talking to a bunch of guys, but not very surprised and, therefore, don’t really care a whole lot. I still feel as if I’m at a distinct advantage).

I’m going to act uninterested in her, but when she gets close to me (sometimes, she’ll touch me, put me aside to say something about the students/other coteacher that she doesn’t want them to hear), I’ll try and sexualize fallout.

Otherwise, I do plan on getting her a VERY nice birthday gift (thoughtful, not expensive – c’mon now, I’m smarter than that), and then just leaving quietly when my term is up. I think this sends the message of, “I view you in a positive light, you already know that I find you attractive, but don’t think for a second that I’m going to chase you.”

Again, she has my number. If she wants to hang out, she can call me. Otherwise, she can go have dinner with “someone.”
