# Cockshow syndrome - ummm, why???!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 4, 2010, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313 "2010-05-04T08:09:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bjorn89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@Bjorn89](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bjorn89)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/21 "2010-05-04T12:41:37Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > That must the most shoddy and crude attempt at escalation of a scenario. I couldn’t imagine what would possess a dude to do that in terms of it being actually viable (which obviously is way beyond not). > > Without really seeing or knowing anything in this situation you must be either quite irresistibly delectable to the senses or you just happen to run into men that are simply deplorably daft to the 10th power or perhaps both. > > Mikoto is right though it doesn’t take much to get us going. I’m quite reserved when it comes to sexual prowess or banter but even I fall victim to a women’s charms which I try extremely hard to show I’m not phased as a result. > > Perhaps you should gauge the situation in different ways in order to uncover why this is a reoccurring scenario. I’ve done it with succes. But it’s not to be used just blatently you gotta know what your doing lol. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/22 "2010-05-04T12:49:01Z")
Not excusing his behavior so please don’t be offended. While many times when a man tries to escalate sexually very early on in the interaction it can and does mean that he’s only after quick sex but you’d be surprised to know this is not always the case. A man can actually be very interested in a woman from a romantic standpoint and even interested in a possible long term relationship. The problem is that the more time that passes after the first meeting, the greater the likelihood of being friend zoned. Which is like quicksand to men, once we’re in it seems that harder we try to get out the more impossible it becomes. I’ve had some very good and healthy relationships that started when sex occured within 4 or 5 hours of meeting the girl. On the flip side I’ve tried playing the patient gentleman and respected her wishes when the girl said she wanted to start as friends first and see how it goes. Only to be told later that she didn’t want to risk ruining the friendship and watching her start a relationship with a guy she DID have sex with very early on. Given your self description I probably would have tried to escalate to, though admittedly not in so clumsy and potentially awkward a way. The point I’m making is regardless of this individual situation with this particular guy, don’t just assume that an attempt at fast escalation means a lack of respect. Sometimes men will try and move fast because they’re afraid of losing their chance. The feeling is that once the sexual part is out of the way (bad way to look at it I admit but what can ya do?) that they can relax and then do the getting to know eachother stuff without risking being seen as the eunuch friend. > [@Sillykitty](#): > > What do I look like? 5’7", not fat though I do feel I could lose a couple pounds, shoulder length light brown hair greenish eyes, fair skin, well endowed breast-wise,voluptuous,T & A, I’m nice looking (according to some), but I don’t think I’m superhot (to me anyway)…but why do they have to do THAT, lol??? It really doesn’t help their goals (of getting into ze pants), if anything, it makes any chances they might have had go to zero. > > It also doesn’t make me feel good at all, it is not a compliment, it makes me feel that in their view, I’m just a potential piece of ass that they don’t even want to bother to take the time to get to know. ☹ > > It makes me wonder if the reason he said I was hot was because it might help him get his way with me, and not because he really thought I was hot. Because, if he really thought I was hot, why not be a little more respectful and take the time to get to know me? Do I just look like a fuckbunny, dammit??!! ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/23 "2010-05-04T16:32:59Z")
Another factor is that I am a professional in a very small community, and the chances of running into this guy again are pretty much 100%. So if I would have “gone with it” (which I wouldn’t have) and then found out all he was after was a quickie, I would have felt used, which I hate, and also not enjoyed running into him again. I would also not have gone into that bar ever again (to avoid risking running into him), which would be a bummer since there are only two bars within an hours drive. If he was only after a quickie, I might have been gossiped about (since that would have also meant he didn’t respect me, and might possibly tell his friends, at least one or two of whom I’m pretty are new members of my Lions Club, one of whom also bartends at that same bar), which I also hate. The potential risks to me were much greater than the potential gains. If he truly likes me, he’ll come around again (not sure how I feel about that now though, the thought makes me a little nervous now), and if he doesn’t truly like me, then good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/24 "2010-05-04T17:08:01Z")
> [@](#): > > A man can actually be very interested in a woman from a romantic standpoint and even interested in a possible long term relationship. The problem is that the more time that passes after the first meeting, the greater the likelihood of being friend zoned. Which is like quicksand to men, once we’re in it seems that harder we try to get out the more impossible it becomes. I agree, immediately showing her your dick gets you out of the friendzone and fast! This guy either had zero respect for Silly, was mildly retarded or a sick puppy. Some of the most charming male friends I’ve known were extremely twisted. The charm was necessary to counter their perversions and tempers. ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@Bjorn89](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bjorn89)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/25 "2010-05-04T17:09:46Z")
Yup, it’s almost possible to not coming out of the friendszone so I show my intent now-a-days to a girl, if i’m interested. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/26 "2010-05-04T17:13:32Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I agree, immediately showing her your dick gets you out of the friendzone and fast! This guy either had zero respect for Silly, was mildly retarded or a sick puppy. Some of the most charming male friends I’ve known were extremely twisted. The charm was necessary to counter their perversions and tempers. I’m also thinking he might have been a bit younger than I thought, though he obviously had to be at least 21 in order to be bartending. ---
**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/27 "2010-05-04T17:28:11Z")
He may have felt the inclination as others are saying to do such a thing because he took everything that was occuring as you being flirty when you were in fact just being nice. This guy may also not be originally from the area and may be from a bigger city and your actions in other areas may be differently taken then they are in a small geographical area. He may also have sudden urges he feels the need to fulfill and cant control but i highly doubt thats the case, or more so he may be obsessed with porn and want to try and play out the scenarios he watches online where these fake enacted pizza delivery boys, and random encounters turn into romps. ? ? ? And this gets him fired up and takes things to drastic measures as others have said if it happens, awesome, one more notch on my story list, if it doesnt oh well on to the next, someday this scene from the porno will play out lol ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/28 "2010-05-04T17:37:16Z")
> [@Katalyst](#): > > This guy may also not be originally from the area and may be from a bigger city and your actions in other areas may be differently taken then they are in a small geographical area. Nope, he was born and raised right around here. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/29 "2010-05-04T19:29:25Z")
I think he must be crazy to unzip his pants like that. Good thing he is in not in the law enforcement or military, since that would mean getting a bad permanent record for life, if a girl charges him… I don’t know that many psychos, which might be a good thing, lol I think being in a friendzone is overrated. From my personal experience, you don’t get befriended for just hanging out a first few times and not being overtly sexual, if a girl actually finds you attractive or high value. If you let it go over some period of time without any sexual intent, yeah, eventually you will be friends… For example, not touching, kissing, or commenting about her beauty, etc If a girl wants some, and that is all, she would make it more obvious. For instance, if you keep touching and rubbing her, she would come closer to you or touch you back, etc. Don’t think all guys are like that. I am confident enough to know and say that I can act like a gentleman for a first few dates and escalte afterward. Usually, if I just want to have sex with a girl, I would go quicker or not bother seeing the girl anymore, if anything more is expected. Plus, when you were something like AMMO, TUTH or Edge, you don’t even have to act like a jerk and feel girl from get go or first couple dates 😉 She gets aroused to remember you and think about what she would do with you 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/30 "2010-05-04T19:29:43Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > Maybe I’m just lucky (or unlucky)? Or maybe they just feel really comfortable with me? Though the scenarios are all quite different. The first time was when I was 17 and had a summer job at the police station, used to hang around with the cops a little, cruise with them on their rounds and such. One evening I innocently went riding with a cop who was doing the beach rounds, he had to stop to pee. He got back in the car, with his pants not zipped, and began dabbing it with a tissue (wiping I guess) right in front of me. He didn’t "try anything at all, but I never accompanied him on his rounds after that. > > Another time was during a more wild era, hanging out with some gay guy friends, we had returned back to someone’s place after clubbing, and were relocating to someone else’s house (in fact I think the sun was just coming up, an all-nighter) One (who I thought was gay, and supposedly is) rode with me, and once alone in the car with me, whipped it out and kept asking me if I thought it was nice. Though we were all a little ripped. And he didn’t pursue it once we got to our destination. I think. Though he might have been a bit flirty with me, come to think of it. Hm, the last one COULD possibly be a very open gay guy just being gay. Not saying that he wasn’t trying to get in your pants, but I’ve known a couple of gay guys who’ve been that open with straight girls and not mean anything by it but just to be wild. The first one you should’ve reported to the police, you probably would’ve received good mula for that. Unless they (the cops) would’ve protected their fellow brother. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/31 "2010-05-04T19:34:06Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I agree, immediately showing her your dick gets you out of the friendzone and fast! This guy either had zero respect for Silly, was mildly retarded or a sick puppy. Some of the most charming male friends I’ve known were extremely twisted. The charm was necessary to counter their perversions and tempers. Yeah, I mean look at Ted Bundy. He seemed “normal” enough, but then bang! 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/32 "2010-05-04T21:17:32Z")
I’d say this guy is probably: - A porn addict and has lost sight of reality… - Utterly clueless about how to signal interest or deal with a woman in sexual terms… - Driven by too much testosterone/orgone for is brain to overcome… (it really can make even an intelligent man do some really f_cked up sh_t, and I say that from personal experience, having dome some seriously stupid, ridiculous and totally f_cked up sh_t under the influence of orgone and/or testosterone OD) - Used to having meaningless sex with women, and likely this “move” worked for him in the past… - Just plain stupid… - Or some combination of the above. I personally have to say I can’t imagine ever doing that, though. I have had situations where I met a woman and sexed her within 2 hours, but I never pulled out the Willie and waved it around as a way of telling a woman I wanted sex. In fact I can’t imagine doing that… it strikes me as very clumsy, clueless and immature. It strikes me as being the ultimate in masculine cluelessness. Now in Gegogi’s case he was wearing NPA. He was advertising “Here I am, come and get it”. But unless you have a subconscious “come f\*ck me” thing going on, which you’re not aware of, it is apparent by this repeated result you get that you are displaying strong signals in _some_ way of being suitable for breeding. Isn’t that the point of a woman being attractive, after all? The more attractive she is, the better the chance someone will “help her” to reproduce. It’s evolution, but it doesn’t translate well to modern situations all the time. Still… cockshow syndrome, as you call it, seems crude and rather … well… pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/33 "2010-05-04T22:01:40Z")
you are definitely correct. He might be one of those frat dudes that has no real job or status now but still think he is all that from his past successes with clueless, immature drunk girls. I see these kind of losers quiet often and some never seem to grow past it. Not ever To reiterate what I said earlier, you don’t have to be sexual from get go or even a first few dates, unless that is ALL you are looking for. If you are doing it from the fear of entering a friendzone, either the girl isn’t right for you, or you will luck clumsy and foolish trying to force things. You don’t want to get labeled CREEPY, do you? If you asked a girl to spend some time with you alone, and if she agreed, she already has some idea you like them sexually. Girls are a lot smarter than guys think; it sucks but they are naturally sly 😉 After a few meetings here and there, you have to start escalating to communicate your intent. It amazes me how so many guys have no clue what it takes or are blinded by quick f\*\*k, they lose control of themselves and reality. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/34 "2010-05-04T22:52:25Z")
All I can say is daaaaaaamn. You want _my_ pants down, you better have kissed me a few times first! This guy should be subject to [Meagan’s Law](http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/).:mad: > [@Sillykitty](#): > > I’m also thinking he might have been a bit younger than I thought, though he obviously had to be at least 21 in order to be bartending. Don’t count on it. Back when I was about 34, I met this girl working as a waitress in a bar (must be 21), that I later got “frisky” with (she stayed at my place for a week or so). About 5 years later, she was celebrating her birthday and I made some comment about it being her 26th. She said no, 21.😮 Turns out when I met her she was 16, with a kid and a very good fake ID.😮 Her sister was supposed to have been 19 when I got “frisky” with _her_, or so the “older” sister said. Later turned out she was _14_!!😮😮😮 Like I said, I found all this out 5 years later!! ---
**Author:** ![Bjorn89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@Bjorn89](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bjorn89)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/35 "2010-05-04T23:33:44Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > All I can say is daaaaaaamn. You want _my_ pants down, you better have kissed me a few times first! > > This guy should be subject to [Meagan’s Law](http://www.meganslaw.ca.gov/).:mad: > > Don’t count on it. Back when I was about 34, I met this girl working as a waitress in a bar (must be 21), that I later got “frisky” with (she stayed at my place for a week or so). About 5 years later, she was celebrating her birthday and I made some comment about it being her 26th. She said no, 21.😮 > > Turns out when I met her she was 16, with a kid and a very good fake ID.😮 > > Her sister was supposed to have been 19 when I got “frisky” with _her_, or so the “older” sister said. Later turned out she was _14_!!😮😮😮 > > Like I said, I found all this out 5 years later!! And you want the guy to be subject to that site? Think of how lucky YOU actually are no charges were pressed, I find it quite weird. (no offence) ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/36 "2010-05-04T23:36:36Z")
> [@Bjorn89](#): > > Think of how lucky YOU actually are no charges were pressed, I find it quite weird. (no offence) _I_ found it quite weird too!! Like I said, I didn’t find out 'till **years later**!! ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/37 "2010-05-05T00:20:04Z")
It’s scary how much power the law puts in the hands of “underage girls” when they do things like that… you take a man who would never knowingly touch “jailbait” and deceive him to get what you want from him, and then he’s the one who goes to jail because “ignorance of the facts is no excuse”? I think our laws vastly overestimate the “innocence” of underage girls. I have seen this happen a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/38 "2010-05-05T00:40:37Z")
> [@Bjorn89](#): > > And you want the guy to be subject to that site? Think of how lucky YOU actually are no charges were pressed, I find it quite weird. (no offence) Bjorn, you must be really young to make such a remark. When Jim was gettin’ busy–more than 2 decades ago–the age of consent in the USA was 13 or 14 in most states. In one state it was only 9! Now it’s 16 or 17 in most states. When I was growing up my next door neighbor, a policeman in his mid-30s, married a 14 year woman. When I was in junior high two of my classmates got married and they were only 13 and 14. The guys were in their 20s. The 13 year old needed parental consent. Things have really changed and we’ve gotten a lot more twisted. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/39 "2010-05-05T01:04:56Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Bjorn, you must be really young to make such a remark. When Jim was gettin’ busy–more than 2 decades ago–the age of consent in the USA was 13 or 14 in most states. In one state it was only 9! Now it’s 16 or 17 in most states. When I was growing up my next door neighbor, a policeman in his mid-30s, married a 14 year woman. When I was in junior high two of my classmates got married and they were only 13 and 14. The guys were in their 20s. The 13 year old needed parental consent. Things have really changed and we’ve gotten a lot more twisted. Having obviously been around to see more than I, let me ask you this. Why do you think these changes are taking place, and what do you think the effects have been? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313/40 "2010-05-05T05:59:13Z")
😮 SK I know your beautiful but this guy was out of line. It doesn’t matter how you dressed, if you flirted or if you just won the Miss Universe Pageant that behavior was out of line for someone you just know casually. I think you were very polite maybe to polite because if it were me I would have told him if he values his pecker to cover it up or I would give to it my dog as a chew toy. Hun it just means he’s attracted to you but he is a moron. Kick his ass to the curb and move on. > [@](#): > > Having obviously been around to see more than I, let me ask you this. Why do you think these changes are taking place, and what do you think the effects have been? I dont think its fair to a guy if a girl has deceived him on her age for them to be blamed unless its obvious. Like in Jims case the girl had a kid she looked older had a ID. He had no reason to suspect she may be younger. Whats a guy supposed to do higher a detective every time he meets a girl. If you look at it historically… In the 1800’s and early 1900’s girls were betrothed off at very young ages. Mostly because they had more value to the family in this way by creating alliances between families or bringing in another male who could serve the family in some way. Why the change now ??? Because now the value of a women is not measured by the husband she lands. Its measured by our own worth. However I think people now understand and acknowledge that the maturity level of a girl or boy and the ability to make a informed mature decisions doesn’t occur until they are a bit older then 13 or 14. Thus the change in age of consent laws. Tisha [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cockshow-syndrome-ummm-why/38313.md?page=3)