# Combination help: IO or Ammo next, to go with TUTH for clubbing? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 23, 2012, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354 "2012-04-23T08:52:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JijitheCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@JijitheCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JijitheCat)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 8:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/1 "2012-04-23T08:52:19Z")
So, my bottle of TUTH came in today, and I’m looking at what to order next to compliment it. I’m looking at either IO or AMMO. While I like the idea of AMMO and TUTH working together, I’m worried about giving off too strong a “serious” vibe. My sense of humor is one of my greatest assets, and I don’t want to come off too strong in the other direction. I feel that IO would help me overcome some of the intimidation problems I feel I have, but at the same time I don’t want things to get too silly either. Suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/2 "2012-04-23T08:56:07Z")
Bluntly, at ninteen, TUTH is probably too much for all but the most sexually charged environments/situations - like clubs or parties. IO will help take the edge off the none and help here too. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IO together will serve you far better in more social/work/college environments around girls your age. Start a date/night out with this, then transition to a more highly sexual sig with the TUTH when you hit the clubs. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 9:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/3 "2012-04-23T09:08:13Z")
I don’t think you need to worry about silliness when adding IO to Tuth unless you plan on bathing in it. I made the same mistake of ordering Tuth the first thing I did. I’m more than twice your age and still it’s not a thing I’d want to wear for work or lunch or whatever regular daytime activities. Ammo is a far better allround product. ---
**Author:** ![JijitheCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@JijitheCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JijitheCat)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/4 "2012-04-23T09:15:38Z")
I actually ordered TUTH for the express purpose of my weekly clubbing. I don’t expect to have any other use for it. However at the moment I can only afford either AMMO or IO, not both, so do either of you have any suggestions for which to buy now? I can always purchase the other at a later time. Which might be more effective in a more 1-on-1 situation with a woman? ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 9:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/5 "2012-04-23T09:21:22Z")
Ammo FTW. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![JijitheCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2acd7d/32.png) [@JijitheCat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JijitheCat)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 10:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/6 "2012-04-23T10:00:28Z")
Then AMMO it shall be. Thanks so much for the help everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 10:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/7 "2012-04-23T10:13:24Z")
I dare promise you won’t be disappointed. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/8 "2012-04-23T10:18:59Z")
OK, Ammo is good and the most widely usable but still, keep the TUTH till you get to the clubs. Pretty-much, what you are doing is using the TUTH to increase the none proportion from 1:1:1 (none, nol, rone) to 2:1:1 (plus a small amount of sexual steering pheros) or more, depending on the number of sprays which is similar to some of the more overt competition. TUTH and Ammo contain the same amount of none, just TUTH is mainly none whilst Ammo is balanced with nol and rone, so stimulates a wider range of feelings. I’d still suggest you save for some IO though - TUTH and IO is a good club mix in itself for guys your age. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/9 "2012-04-23T10:23:06Z")
Yes, I’m not suggesting to combine the Ammo and the Tuth either. Just Ammo on a daily basis, maybe Tuth on nights out if you have something to buffer it with, like IO. You won’t go wrong with ammo in the clubs either, you may want to try that first if your only products are Ammo and Tuth. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2012, 10:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combination-help-io-or-ammo-next-to-go-with-tuth-for-clubbing/55354/10 "2012-04-23T10:34:52Z")
As of today IO is so expensive, I couldn’t afford it. A 5 ml to go containing about 40 sprays costs 20 bucks… From a regular strength to go (which gives smaller doses than the 30 ml bottles), I’d want at least 4 sprays at a time to buffer Tuth. Then the bottle is good for 10 nights. And that is if the 4 sprays are enough, and keep in mind that the nol in it has a shorter lifespan than the none in Tuth. That’s why i think Ammo is the best bet even for nights out unless one can handle Tuth as is or with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) or some other reasonably priced product.