# Combo of A314 & Instant Openness ?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 16, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841 "2011-08-16T23:30:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![newdawn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/newdawn/32/518_2.png) [@newdawn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/newdawn)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/1 "2011-08-16T23:30:59Z")

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Hi Guys,

Can anyone tell me the effects to expect from a combo of A314 & IO and what setting is best for that.

I am hoping to use this combo in a business setting this week to secure a contract, do you think it would be a good one or would you suggest another combo???

Shaun

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**Author:** ![DotCom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dotcom/32/2152_2.png) [@DotCom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DotCom)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/2 "2011-08-16T23:54:04Z")

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I think you posted this in the wrong section (I assume Men’s [Pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) Talk would have been more appropriate).

However, to answer your question, that is an excellent combo, in the right doses aka your sweet spot. A314 demands respect. IO makes people friendlier. So by combining those two, you demand respect without being intimidating. This is a good quality to have in a business setting.

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**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/3 "2011-08-17T01:13:23Z")

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Yes, that’s a great combination for your business contract situation!

But make sure you’ve sweet-spot-tested each product on its own before combining them (especially before something important like that) so that you know exactly what each one does and how much of each to use for best effect. Plus it’s a good idea to test that combination in other situations before the important deal, most definitely!

And yes, this conversation should probably be in the men’s section or the A314 section.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/4 "2011-08-21T18:00:13Z")

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Moved from lounge to Men’s

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/5 "2011-08-21T18:45:58Z")

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A314 + IH is much better than A314 + IO

A314 + [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) is better than A314 + IH

and A314 + P74 + P79 (IH optional) is better than A314 + P74

You can see where I’m going

Some users have reported that IO makes the A314 more approachable or it softens the A314. Some have reported that it doesn’t mix well with A314 for them. I’m one of them. I’ve reported that IO seemingly cancels out the A314

However after going back to A314 recently due to several meetings and deals I’ve had to be present at, I’ve nailed what’s my issue with IO.

A314 has 2 components. 1 is the really great self effect that everyone talks about, about feeling on top of the world, that you’re in control everything’s gonna be alright and 2 is that people not only perceive you as alpha because of your behaviour but the mix also gives off the alpha vibe.

IO induces talking. It induces communication. However with all mones, the mones affect everyone differently. IO (when not involved in heated cirucmstances) tends to put some people in madcap moods. You talk, you feel fun, you feel whimsical.

Fun and whimsy hardly mixes with alpha, unless you’re telling me you’re looking at college girls at a party looking to have fun with a guy also with an alpha vibe (even then I’m not sure, I’m postulating).

What IO has done for me with A314 is that it offsets the Alpha self effects. Instead of being collected and steadfast, I tend to be a little bit more flippant in my speech as well as behaviour. The IO on me also seems to confuse others with my signature.

If I were you, I’d take A314 and IO for a few test runs before deciding what it does. Mones react differently on different people. Most results are usually the same and linear but with all our chemistries being different, you’d have to expect a variation somewhere some how.

> [@newdawn](#):
>
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Can anyone tell me the effects to expect from a combo of A314 & IO and what setting is best for that.
> 
> I am hoping to use this combo in a business setting this week to secure a contract, do you think it would be a good one or would you suggest another combo???
> 
> Shaun

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/6 "2011-08-21T18:49:17Z")

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I agree with Johnny - In a professional setting, I find A314/IH or A314/IH/[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) far better.

Never felt A314/IO was very effective myself - just seemed to weaken the A314.

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/7 "2011-08-21T22:36:46Z")

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I agree with both mobo and Johnny. A314 and IH is really a killer combination that will work much better than A314 + IO.

IO does really seem to do bad things to the A314.

Using IH instead, you keep your aphaness and add an additional layer of trust. You really can’t go wrong with this combination in a business setting.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/8 "2011-08-22T00:48:58Z")

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It actually says on the A314 store page that if you want to diminish of lessen the effects of A314 to use IO. If A314 is too strong than IO would be a good choice, but I like to say is if it is to strong go with IG.

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**Author:** ![fishdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/4bbf92/32.png) [@fishdude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fishdude)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/9 "2011-08-22T05:12:27Z")

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> [@newdawn](#):
>
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Can anyone tell me the effects to expect from a combo of A314 & IO and what setting is best for that.
> 
> I am hoping to use this combo in a business setting this week to secure a contract, do you think it would be a good one or would you suggest another combo???
> 
> Shaun

For a business contrat use some IH if you can. I feel it helps to build that business trust.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/combo-of-a314-instant-openness/51841/10 "2011-08-23T17:40:46Z")

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stay away from any putatives and experimones until you have a general idea how the most basic mixes work. Its like giving a new driver who just obtained their learners permit keys to a NASCAR race car.

Seriously you’ll be way better off getting a grasp of what things like Ishine, A314, IH and IO do (which are perfectly designed mixes) instead of venturing into an individual molecule. You would need to FIRST understand what that individual molecule does on its own, what mcg to get it in and how it interacts with other molecules. That’s why the consumer line is perfectly balanced mixes designed to give you the exact effect you desire without guesswork.

A314 and IO is a good combo. If you feel the A314 is too over-powering add a spray of IO to the combo and it will lighten the mood.
