# come talk to me 2 or IO?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-2-or-io/34905>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 17, 2009, 7:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-2-or-io/34905 "2009-12-17T07:24:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![tarki7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tarki7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tarki7)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-2-or-io/34905/1 "2009-12-17T07:24:01Z")

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Hey guys,

Quick question- I really want to make people more chatty and social around and to me… especially because I often run out of things to say. Im usually pretty good at starting to talk to people but am really after something which will make them more receptive to my opening and want to keep talking… I dont mind if they dont stop- deal with it as it comes!

Iv read so many good things about both these products and have no idea which to purchase. Cttm certainly seems a cheaper option than both IO and IH, and from what I can work out it is kind of a hybrid of the two?

[Pheromone](https://a314.com/) gurus please help me out!

Cheers!

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**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-2-or-io/34905/2 "2009-12-17T07:55:50Z")

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My understanding is that CTTM2 is not just a mixture of IO and IH, it’s somewhat different. IO & IH each have “steering [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)” which modify the effect of the main phero in the mix (Beta and Alpha androstenol, respectively). CTTM2 is a mix of the androstenols, but the steering pheros are different. At least, that’s what I’ve been told by those who should know.

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**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-2-or-io/34905/3 "2009-12-17T08:15:53Z")

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For someone starting out and wants to try some Nol’s and have no clue what to get, go for CTTM!

You can try the others another time. CTTM works great for me and I have a few of the others and still go for for CTTM for the Easy App. of Nols and that work for me!