# Come Talk To Me Mix 2 is just alpha and beta nol: how it differs from IO + IH **URL:** \ **Category:** Consumer Products Combos\ **Created:** [June 16, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-mix-2-is-just-alpha-and-beta-nol-how-it-differs-from-io-ih/23616 "2006-06-16T17:20:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-mix-2-is-just-alpha-and-beta-nol-how-it-differs-from-io-ih/23616/6 "2007-03-06T20:16:02Z")
> [@Is Instant Honesty + Instant Openness the same as Come Talk To Me Mix 2?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/is-instant-honesty-instant-openness-the-same-as-come-talk-to-me-mix-2/427/3): > > i know this is an old thread, but i’m mainly focusing on Androstenol, is CCTM2 better than buying IS + Instant Honesty?? I’m guessing you meant Instant Openness + Instant Honesty. CTTM2 is 50% alphanol, 50% betanol. Openness and Honesty are primarily alpha-nol and beta-nol respectively. Some say 90%-10%, others say 70%-30%, with the balance being the opposite isomer. In addition, it’s been hinted that in addition to the main blend (I say 70/30) that there are some small ‘tweaks’ added to make each product more effective for it’s purpose. Whether that would be the addition of essential oils, of [putative pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/product-category/advanced-pheromones/putative-pheromones/), or of known phero-molecules seems to be an Androtics trade secret. So, perhaps mixing Openness and Honest would get you close to CTTM2. Perhaps not. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-mix-2-is-just-alpha-and-beta-nol-how-it-differs-from-io-ih/23616)._