# Comfort : TAC or A1 ? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 19, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819 "2011-12-19T16:14:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Slash](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/slash/32/797_2.png) [@Slash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Slash)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/1 "2011-12-19T16:14:23Z")
I’ve been meaning to test with some comfort pheros in dating settings. Given current availability issues i’ve nailed it down to TAC and A1, i’d like to only purchase one of the two.. Which do you recommend ? Thanks for the advice, ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/2 "2011-12-19T16:44:36Z")
> [@Slash](#): > > I’ve been meaning to test with some comfort pheros in dating settings. > > Given current availability issues i’ve nailed it down to TAC and A1, i’d like to only purchase one of the two.. Which do you recommend ? > > Thanks for the advice, I’d get both, but getting TAC from AD would be easier.. you get it mixed and ready to go where as with A1 you’d need to dilute it. ---
**Author:** ![Slash](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/slash/32/797_2.png) [@Slash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Slash)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/3 "2011-12-19T17:57:26Z")
> [@](#): > > I’d get both Yeah but money is a bit tight right now thus the purpose of this post ^^ > [@](#): > > [A1](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) you’d need to dilute it About that, do we agree that LS’s A1 at half strength is at about 20-25 mcg / drop ? ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/4 "2011-12-19T18:04:56Z")
Ah so do you want MX412 or A1.. I think MX412 would probably be better as a stand alone, forum is looking for feedback on it too… A1 is more of icing for a large collection of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/).. or if you have a pmsing gf thats becoming too much 🙄 > [@Androstadienone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/2): > > Section 3: When is the best time to use A-1? Although A-1 can be worn at pretty much anytime, the BEST time to see its effects are when a woman is on her period. The effects during this time are usually outstanding, and an immediate mood boost is usually the result. Also, A-1 is a great phero to wear on first dates (or any date really) or when you know you’ll have some one-on-one time with a lady. I personally take A-1 with me wherever I go just in case I run into a PMSing woman. A-1 can also… ---
**Author:** ![Slash](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/slash/32/797_2.png) [@Slash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Slash)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/5 "2011-12-19T18:10:36Z")
Thanks for the link, but i read all that already 🙂 I get that AD is looking for feedback on MX412 right now but from what i read about it already it’s not really what i’m looking for. As i said money is tight, i’d like results. I’m just looking for something more in the TAC range if you get what i mean.. Im not really planning of using it as a standalone per se… Except for sweet spotting. I just want to purchase smth to add to my mixes to allow women to relax in my presence and help “deepen” the relationship i have with my gf. That being said which do you think would be more fun to try ? ---
**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/6 "2011-12-19T18:13:46Z")
If you have a women already to play with, or the right stuff the steer it to that end… TAC is the most fun, good buffer for none ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/7 "2011-12-19T18:21:52Z")
_shameless plug_ [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nome-behavorial-studies-special-report-1-observations-and-why-tuth-scares-me/53821](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nome-behavorial-studies-special-report-1-observations-and-why-tuth-scares-me/53821) Ironically… I just posted a big blog/post/whatever about my experiences. I’d DEFINITELY SAY TAC and get it at 25mcg. I know it might cost a little extra but it will save you money in the long run because you are going to want to use this in 25 to 50mcg doses anyways. I have both and as far as comfort… TAC is far superior. I guess A1 is good for pmsing girls to help tone them down a little. It can be an interest getter too I guess. It might have a bit more as far as additional applications. I wasn’t terribly impressed with it. But maybe it’s better than I think. What I can say is that the comfort I’ve seen from TAC is unmatched. It’s magic. Feel free to read my comments under the TAC section of my full post. I just hope you use it right and it works wonder for you, too. (Works well with other socials like IH for even more comfort/connection.) It’s been worth every penny for me and my mixes. I can only speak from person experience… but it is possibly my favorite phero in their whole collection after what I’ve experienced using it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/8 "2011-12-19T18:28:27Z")
> [@Slash](#): > > About that, do we agree that LS’s A1 at half strength is at about 20-25 mcg / drop ? Nope. IME it is invariably a 5ml chemset bottle of full-strength instead of a 10ml. ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/9 "2011-12-19T19:20:29Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Nope. IME it is invariably a 5ml chemset bottle of full-strength instead of a 10ml. Hey, Mobo… in your experience do you tend to find TAC or A1 better for the “comfort effect”… just to be curious. I would tend to say TAC… but maybe it’s because of what I use it in combination with. I think A1 might do more extra stuff but TAC is the king of comfort (and maybe that’s why some suggest it enhances orgasm… because the extra comfort/relaxedness would probably equal easy/better end result maybe?). _shrugs_ ---
**Author:** ![Slash](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/slash/32/797_2.png) [@Slash](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Slash)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/10 "2011-12-19T19:25:27Z")
What extra stuff exactly are you referring to Prof. P ? > [@](#): > > Nope. IME it is invariably a 5ml chemset bottle of full-strength instead of a 10ml Ok thanks ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/11 "2011-12-19T19:46:37Z")
> [@Professor\_P](#): > > Ironically… I just posted a big blog/post/whatever about my experiences. I’d DEFINITELY SAY TAC and get it at 25mcg. I know it might cost a little extra but it will save you money in the long run because you are going to want to use this in 25 to 50mcg doses anyways. Just curious, I actually had TAC on my wish list and was wondering if I should get the 25mcg dosage in the 30ml bottle. I’m 36 years old and have had really good success with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and Tuth. Considering my age is 25mcg good? 😕 Is it possible to OD on TAC? Just wondering since I have no Experimones in my current arsenal. ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/12 "2011-12-19T20:44:14Z")
> [@Slash](#): > > What extra stuff exactly are you referring to Prof. P ? K-Train created a thorough and excellent thread about it here: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668) Basically… the reports vary. But some people say it creates a crush effect. It’s hit and miss but I would tend to say this is true. But I’m not going to go out and exactly say that’s good. “Crushes” only goes so far. And I don’t know. I think that effect can backfired as far as LTRs go. It’s kinda unnecessary. It could be a great initial hook maybe but I think by itself it will only go so far. I don’t feel that it’s all that amazing for the comfort effects. Maybe safety and trust a bit. But without other nomes it is lacking in my book. It’s a nice compliment to TUTH and high none (but so is TAC). It’s a good buffer (but so is TAC). But I wasn’t wowed by it for as expensive as it is. TAC is way cheaper and more effective if you ask me. But everyone’s different so A1 might work better for some people. (Isn’t there a soap out there that as A1 in it too?) Comments anybody else? Any opposing views out there? 😛 An interesting TAC thread: > [@Does TAC Really Intesify Orgasms?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-tac-really-intesify-orgasms/189943): > > As some of you may or may not know TAC is a relaxant phero, and is known to help buffer androstenone and also provide a soothing atmosphere. However, the OTHER benefit of TAC is that it reportedly causes females to orgasm easier while also greatly intensifying the orgasm. Unfortunately, I’ve yet to test this properly frowning but I’m sure some of you here might have. So here’s the question, have you tried TAC in your mixes and if so, did it have any effect? Oh and here’s a thread if you wan… I’ve heard that A1 can have a possibly similar effect… but it seems TAC is superior in that department too… and it would make sense because it is a relaxant phero and provides that soothing/comfort feel. I would tend to say that’s the main thing it does and that’s what you’d use it for so it more effective at doing just that (where as A1 you’d also probably be trying to use for the hopeful “crush effect” and all that extra mentioned in K-Trains thing). If you want extra/other with TAC you are going to want to add the desired other pheros to the mix. Also… keep in mind that A1 has been known to cause depression in a small amount of men (and while it might not effect you personally it might effect other men around you whether workmates, friends, etc.). It probably not something to worry about too much but still. Any other questions, thoughts, comments? 😃 > [@andromun](#): > > Just curious, I actually had TAC on my wish list and was wondering if I should get the 25mcg dosage in the 30ml bottle. > > I’m 36 years old and have had really good success with Ammo and Tuth. Considering my age is 25mcg good? 😕 > > Is it possible to OD on TAC? > > Just wondering since I have no Experimones in my current arsenal. Hmmm… good question… I know **1Alpha** and **ochrismongrelo** have experience great responses when adding it to their mixes although I’m unsure of their ages. What I can say is that TAC is a social. I’m not sure you can overdose on socials. I did suggest (in the big post/thread I liked in the first post) that maybe it might make the other person so comfortable that they will fall asleep on you. I have had that happen. I couldn’t remember my mix. It was spur of the moment but I do believe I was topping out around 75mcg to 100 mcgs. I was like… you can’t have too much of this stuff right? And you cant. It was like I was her cloud. She cuddled up and was out cold which was unusual. The level of comfortability was surprising especially since we had only hung out maybe a few times. _Shrugs_ But it wasn’t like she was in a coma. Just really comfortable. She wasn’t out of it either. Just really cuddly and comfortable… even after I finally woke her after the movie. 😛 I don’t think you can go wrong. But I think over 50 mcgs is probably a waste 99% of the time. It’s just not necessary to get the desired effect. I like it around 50 but I really do bet 25 or even lower doses can work fine. I’ve heard people experience success with as low as 10. I just figure that you can’t go wrong with 25… its a good middle ground… and it saves you having to do two or four sprays of 12.5mcg for those occasions when you might want more umph. 😛 But can you od? Is it possible to be too soothed and comfortable? I guess if you believe that you can. Otherwise… I don’t think so… but then I’ve never been crazy enough to try to at 200 mcgs… I wonder… if I didn’t use and love it so much I might not mind wasting it to find out… tempting… maybe when I get my new order I might try it once… 😛 Oh… favorite application points for cuddling/close proximity… chest and jawline/neck. The back shoulder works well too. But yeah. That help at all? Any other thoughts? (Or anyone else want to chime in? Hehehe…) ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/13 "2011-12-19T21:43:08Z")
Thanks _ **Professor P** _ ! I really appreciate your feedback, I think I will go with the 25mcg. I think 1 spray at that dosage should work just fine. I love it how your girl used you as a snuggie 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/comfort-tac-or-a1/53819/14 "2011-12-19T22:25:36Z")
> [@andromun](#): > > Thanks _ **Professor P** _ ! I really appreciate your feedback, I think I will go with the 25mcg. I think 1 spray at that dosage should work just fine. > > I love it how your girl used you as a snuggie 😛 Hahaha… you and me both… you and me both… that and countless other things totally sold me on TAC as a must have. Works great in combination with TUTH too. Almost wonder if that’s not what they use in Ammo or something. It’s such a great balancer without hurting any of TUTH’s edge. Sound good, though. I look forward to hear how it works out for you. Worse case scenario, you could always dilute it or something but I don’t see any need. You might even find that you like it at 50 mcg. But I definitely hope it works for you. I’ve found it to be pretty cool. If you can find the right balance with IH it’s even better. Just think about it. Deep connection and intense comfort. lol! You can’t really go too wrong with that. 😛