K-Train created a thorough and excellent thread about it here:
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668
Basically… the reports vary. But some people say it creates a crush effect. It’s hit and miss but I would tend to say this is true. But I’m not going to go out and exactly say that’s good. “Crushes” only goes so far. And I don’t know. I think that effect can backfired as far as LTRs go. It’s kinda unnecessary. It could be a great initial hook maybe but I think by itself it will only go so far.
I don’t feel that it’s all that amazing for the comfort effects. Maybe safety and trust a bit. But without other nomes it is lacking in my book. It’s a nice compliment to TUTH and high none (but so is TAC). It’s a good buffer (but so is TAC). But I wasn’t wowed by it for as expensive as it is. TAC is way cheaper and more effective if you ask me. But everyone’s different so A1 might work better for some people. (Isn’t there a soap out there that as A1 in it too?)
Comments anybody else? Any opposing views out there? ![]()
An interesting TAC thread:
I’ve heard that A1 can have a possibly similar effect… but it seems TAC is superior in that department too… and it would make sense because it is a relaxant phero and provides that soothing/comfort feel. I would tend to say that’s the main thing it does and that’s what you’d use it for so it more effective at doing just that (where as A1 you’d also probably be trying to use for the hopeful “crush effect” and all that extra mentioned in K-Trains thing). If you want extra/other with TAC you are going to want to add the desired other pheros to the mix.
Also… keep in mind that A1 has been known to cause depression in a small amount of men (and while it might not effect you personally it might effect other men around you whether workmates, friends, etc.). It probably not something to worry about too much but still.
Any other questions, thoughts, comments? ![]()
Hmmm… good question… I know 1Alpha and ochrismongrelo have experience great responses when adding it to their mixes although I’m unsure of their ages.
What I can say is that TAC is a social. I’m not sure you can overdose on socials. I did suggest (in the big post/thread I liked in the first post) that maybe it might make the other person so comfortable that they will fall asleep on you. I have had that happen. I couldn’t remember my mix. It was spur of the moment but I do believe I was topping out around 75mcg to 100 mcgs. I was like… you can’t have too much of this stuff right? And you cant. It was like I was her cloud. She cuddled up and was out cold which was unusual. The level of comfortability was surprising especially since we had only hung out maybe a few times. Shrugs
But it wasn’t like she was in a coma. Just really comfortable. She wasn’t out of it either. Just really cuddly and comfortable… even after I finally woke her after the movie.
I don’t think you can go wrong.
But I think over 50 mcgs is probably a waste 99% of the time. It’s just not necessary to get the desired effect. I like it around 50 but I really do bet 25 or even lower doses can work fine. I’ve heard people experience success with as low as 10.
I just figure that you can’t go wrong with 25… its a good middle ground… and it saves you having to do two or four sprays of 12.5mcg for those occasions when you might want more umph. ![]()
But can you od? Is it possible to be too soothed and comfortable? I guess if you believe that you can. Otherwise… I don’t think so… but then I’ve never been crazy enough to try to at 200 mcgs… I wonder… if I didn’t use and love it so much I might not mind wasting it to find out… tempting… maybe when I get my new order I might try it once… ![]()
Oh… favorite application points for cuddling/close proximity… chest and jawline/neck. The back shoulder works well too. But yeah. That help at all? Any other thoughts? (Or anyone else want to chime in? Hehehe…)