# Coming Soon: Portable Dosed Pheromones

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533>\
**Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\
**Created:** [July 29, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533 "2006-07-29T23:09:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/1 "2006-07-29T23:09:41Z")

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Hi everyone.

Sorry if I haven’t been around much here in the public forums, or as fast as I usually am replying to PMs, etc. I will get to you soon, I promise. (if I don’t, I assure you that don’t mean to be rude – just PM me again, please)

It’s been a busy summer, and I’ve been putting a lot of focus on new product development… especially in areas that are new to me, which require substantial research. (more on this at a later time).

You know, one thing we’ve talked about lately is offering short run decants of actual, famous brand colognes.

We now have a few of those available (but not in the cart yet), including a decant of Musc Ravageur from the Frederic Malle Collection from Paris, and Green Irish Tweed from Creed.

Those are great fun, but what I’ve always really wanted is for _Turn Up The Heat_ to be portable, so I could carry it with me.  
So I could literally… Turn… up… The Heat… at _juuuuust_ the right moment (if you know what I mean!)  
Same thing with Instant Shine. Having a portable Instant Shine would be make people explode with **good feelings** , at a moments notice.

Timing sometimes _is_ everything, after all!

In fact, if there’s any secret behind leading a “lucky life”, it’s being full prepared, in the right place, _at the right time_.

Think about it:

Wouldn’t it be nice to use social pheromones to mingle and build comfort, then transitition from comfort to sexual tension? And do it all all out there in the real world, “in the field”?

That’s how things tend to work out, when things really “click”. Life works in transitions.

Pheromones that enhance natural transitions in life experiences would be powerful. That’s why I’ve wanted them.

Now, my wish has come true. (maybe yours, too?)

We now have simple, portable versions of most of our spray products, in convenient pocket size.

Pheromones – _ **To Go!** _

These come in nice, small 5ml spray bottles that fit in your pocket.

These bottles have a small footprint. 4 of these spray bottles will literally fit into the same space as 1 of our normal bottles. They’re quite a bit shorter and lighter, too.

Initially, they’ll just be decants of our full products. They’ll give you a slightly lower dosage per spray than our full, 1 oz (30ml) blue bottles give you.

The lower dosage per spray might just be perfect “in the field”, since freshly applied pheromones tend to have a much more dramatic effect than older applications do.

It’ll good to test these out as is. Of course, based on your feedback, we may create batches made just for the little spray bottles.

As always, whatever gives you the best effects, is what we’ll settle in on.

So there you have it… Pheromones _To Go_

You can get them now by calling us at 800-671-6464, or you’ll see them in the cart soon enough.

Questions and comments welcome.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/2 "2006-07-30T05:33:59Z")

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Hi Michael

So that’s part of what you have been doing - excellent!

I think it is a great idea!!!  
I myself have started experimenting with the kind of strategy that you describe ‘to transition from comfort to sexual tension’ for example.  
It is definitely taking things to the next level as I know how important timing is. Sometimes you are stuck there with your application that was great for the beginning of an interaction but you need to have your mone resources available to you as the situation has changed.

Visionary

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**Author:** ![jkstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@jkstern](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jkstern)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 8:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/3 "2006-07-30T08:23:50Z")

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That’s a perfect idea, especially if they are labeled discreetly.

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 11:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/4 "2006-07-30T11:29:31Z")

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Nice work. Synchronicity is a funny thing. I just made up my own 1/3 strength TUTH last night using the perfume blue bottle/alcohol you sell here. Not such a DHV to have bulging pockets though, so I am excited about the new portable size.

Likely also handy to have the ability to refresh the more volatile components, partic in this heat. (I carried another bottle with P74, nol, EST). Worked a treat.

Will you be selling the small bottles separately?

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**Author:** ![KnowledgeIsPower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/knowledgeispower/32/1201_2.png) [@KnowledgeIsPower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KnowledgeIsPower)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/5 "2006-07-30T16:01:54Z")

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That’s awesome! I would be VERY interested in selling the bottles empty. That way I can fill them with my own mixes so I can use to freshen up my sprays later on in the evening outside the house.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/6 "2006-07-30T16:40:56Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> Hi Michael
> 
> So that’s part of what you have been doing - excellent!

Actually, I’ve been working on others things entirely. Formulating _adventures_ completely out of my normal scope of capability. 🙂

As far as these goes – I wanted portables for years, but I could never seem to find durable spray bottles that held their fluid in well, and provided a quality mist (instead of a bad mist, or a stream).

Honestly, this current opportunity to offer these now sort of fell into my lap. It was the result of pursuing something else entirely.

Since we wanted to offer decants of quality colognes here at the store, we ordered many of the exact same bottles all of the decanters use. There’s 3 of them that we found.

One of them is just perfect, not just for decants, but our own products.

It’s simple plastic spray bottle. Very light. Gives you a _great_ mist. Doesn’t appear to leak. Seems to consistenly give about 40 sprays per fill (meaning that it’s dosable)

See what I mean? The perfect opportunity presented itself to charge ahead with Pheromones _To Go_.

I wish I could take more credit for all of the “hard work”, but it’s really all of the hobbyiest decanters that helped. None of the mini spray bottles I found before (except for a certain series from an impossible to deal supplier in France) worked as well as these.

> [@](#):
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> I think it is a great idea!!!  
> I myself have started experimenting with the kind of strategy that you describe ‘to transition from comfort to sexual tension’ for example.  
> It is definitely taking things to the next level as I know how important timing is. Sometimes you are stuck there with your application that was great for the beginning of an interaction but you need to have your mone resources available to you as the situation has changed.
> 
> Visionary

Yes, it can definitely be helpful.

I’ve changed “pheromonal course” mid-interaction at my home (where I keep product in a number of locations, including the bathroom), or by returning to my car.

Unless you go too crazy (especially with too much androstenone), it often works well.

As I’m sure you’ll see in your own experiments with this, moderation is the key.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/7 "2006-07-30T16:45:45Z")

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> [@jkstern](#):
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> That’s a perfect idea, especially if they are labeled discreetly.

I wish I could offer product “more covert” than I do now.

Unfortunately, due to FDA labeling laws for cosmetics, we are unable to label anything completely discretely.

The best I can do is what is what we now now – use alternate verbiage for [pheromone technology](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (you see “NeuroInfluence Technology” and “Human Musks™” on our products, instead of the word pheromones, for instance).

It’s the best solution we could come to, while still complying with the law.

Thankfully, it’s a simple matter to remove the label we provide, and relabel them yourself.

Also, if you have any suggestions for alternate verbiage to make the products more covert, but still legal, I’m all ears.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/8 "2006-07-30T16:58:27Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> Nice work. Synchronicity is a funny thing. I just made up my own 1/3 strength TUTH last night using the perfume blue bottle/alcohol you sell here. Not such a DHV to have bulging pockets though, so I am excited about the new portable size.

Hehe, it’s not a DHV to have lumpy pockets, is it?

I understand that completely.

I don’t even carry a full wallet usually, due to the lump problem. Just a smaller ultra-slim wallet (Sharper Image used to carry these – not sure if they still do), or a money clip. A full wallet only comes along when I’m taking a jacket that can conceal it completely.

In most pants, these little bottles definitely do conceal nicely in the pocket, vertically or horizontally.

> [@](#):
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> Likely also handy to have the ability to refresh the more volatile components, partic in this heat. (I carried another bottle with P74, nol, EST). Worked a treat.

P74. Interesting.

How’s that one been working out for you? (I suppose it’s search time for me!)

> [@](#):
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> Will you be selling the small bottles separately?

Eventually, I’d love to.

Right now, we’re not getting these from the manufacturer themselves, but instead, a middleman that sells them to the most of the perfume decanters out there.

They can’t really provide the quantity we need – just a few hundred at a time.

For production products, we order a _TON_ of bottles… and with the _To Go_ series itself, I anticipate needing many TIMES more than we usually get.

Honestly, I think the draw of a small, inexpensive version of the product will be irresistible (“I can now try so many!”). It’ll also offer us the ability to offer an affordable “newbie” special (we almost always lose money on the first sale, so why not go full tilt?)

We’ll probably also include a freebie _To Go_ with every order over a certain size. We like to be generous with our customers, and this offers us a great way to do it, without losing our shirts.

In short, I plan to _ **plow** _ through these little atomizers. Since I’ve personally tested these out the past few weeks, If I can get 50k during my first order, I will. I like to be prepared, so we’re never out of stock of anything.

After we track down the actual manufacturer, I’d say, yes, we’ll definitely stock them. Until then, I just hope we don’t run out. The word “backorder” and I don’t mix!

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2006, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/9 "2006-07-30T17:04:50Z")

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> [@kutibah](#):
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> That’s awesome! I would be VERY interested in selling the bottles empty. That way I can fill them with my own mixes so I can use to freshen up my sprays later on in the evening outside the house.

I hear you! Another vote for selling “empties” of these bottles.

I’ll do my best to offer that. It’ll have to wait until I source the actual manufacturer (see the message I sent to PheroQuirk, above), but it’ll be done eventually.

These miniature 5ml spray bottles are self-fillable and re-usable, and they are _quite_ useful.

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**Author:** ![Moses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/278dde/32.png) [@Moses](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Moses)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 8:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/10 "2006-07-31T08:40:04Z")

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This are great news! I’ve been waiting for something like this for a long time.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 11:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/11 "2006-07-31T11:31:18Z")

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awww  
now i cant say, " is that a pheromone bottle in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me??? "  
atomizors will go over well.

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**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/12 "2006-07-31T15:58:11Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> awww  
> now i cant say, " is that a pheromone bottle in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me??? "  
> atomizors will go over well.

Given the “diminuative” size MHarris said these bottles were going to be I think that comment would be a blow to most every man’s delicate ego…  
😛

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/13 "2006-07-31T17:36:40Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Hehe, it’s not a DHV to have lumpy pockets, is it?
> 
> I understand that completely.
> 
> I don’t even carry a full wallet usually, due to the lump problem. Just a smaller ultra-slim wallet (Sharper Image used to carry these – not sure if they still do), or a money clip. A full wallet only comes along when I’m taking a jacket that can conceal it completely.

Yes, makes sense. Easier to do in the US given consistent banknote sizing + that change is essentially worthless…

> [@](#):
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> In most pants, these little bottles definitely do conceal nicely in the pocket, vertically or horizontally.

perfect..

> [@](#):
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> P74. Interesting.
> 
> How’s that one been working out for you? (I suppose it’s search time for me!)

wel,l I think. makes it v easy to open up girls (& guys. latter not a bad thing either cos mixed set or just generating social energy + taking ownership of the venue 😉 not sure yet of any negative aspects but possibly could put one in the wrong place.

Understood about the atomizers. Hmm now think I def need a topup mini-none for every room in my house 😉

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**Author:** ![jkstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@jkstern](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jkstern)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2006, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/14 "2006-07-31T20:02:49Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> if you have any suggestions for alternate verbiage to make the products more covert, but still legal, I’m all ears.

The one thing about some of the products that I find a bit bothersome is the names. I can just imagine if some buddies of mine were to glance into my bathroom cupboard and see a bottle called “Instant Female Magic” or “Come Talk To Me”. They would have a GOOD laugh at my expense. The impression these names would give (to someone not at all familiar with this board) is that of a cheesy, gimmicky product picked up off the web by some gullible loser hoping to get some action with the ladies. Labeling the products with initials only, IFM, CCTM etc. would solve this problem. A314’s a good name. Sounds serious and scientific hehe. “Smart pheromones” or other technical descriptions in small letters would be no problem.

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 8:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/15 "2006-08-01T08:01:02Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Also, if you have any suggestions for alternate verbiage to make the products more covert, but still legal, I’m all ears.

How about having a big sticker that is **easy to peel off** saying for example ‘Instant Female Magic, Neuroinfluence Technology, 10 ml, etc.’ - well you know everything that needs to be put in there to comply with the law.

Then have another smaller sticker on the other side of the bottle (which is **harder to peel off** ) simply saying IFM/m in small letters…

🙂 ?

Visionary

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**Author:** ![jkstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@jkstern](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jkstern)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/16 "2006-08-01T08:20:22Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> How about having a big sticker that is **easy to peel off** saying for example ‘Instant Female Magic, Neuroinfluence Technology, 10 ml, etc.’ - well you know everything that needs to be put in there to comply with the law.
> 
> Then have another smaller sticker on the other side of the bottle (which is **harder to peel off** ) simply saying IFM/m in small letters…
> 
> 🙂 ?
> 
> Visionary

Good idea.

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**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 5:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/17 "2006-08-01T17:45:28Z")

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It’d be nice if you used like a clear plasticky or rubberized type sticker that can just come on or off. You know like those types of stickers that stick to car windows or something? As far as being discreet.. just simple letters like A314, IFM, CTTM2, etc.. and no other wording or letters that’d make someone think anything.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/18 "2006-08-01T18:53:21Z")

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I tell you what. What we already do is print the version # of products on their bottom. We could add the acronym for the product, too.

That way you could remove the main label, and they’d look like perfectly innocent, completely mysterious spray bottles. You could “check their butts” to confirm what’s inside.

The only problem is that the new “To Go” sized bottles don’t really have room for the extra label, only the normal sized ones.

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**Author:** ![jumbolaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@jumbolaya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jumbolaya)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/19 "2008-03-03T00:32:09Z")

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> [@Molecule F](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/molecule-f/6547/1):
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> These come in nice, small 5ml spray bottles that fit in your pocket.
> 
> These bottles have a small footprint. 4 of these spray bottles will literally fit into the same space as 1 of our normal bottles. They’re quite a bit shorter and lighter, too.
> 
> Initially, they’ll just be decants of our full products. They’ll give you a slightly lower dosage per spray than our full, 1 oz (30ml) blue bottles give you.
> 
> The lower dosage per spray might just be perfect “in the field”, since freshly applied pheromones tend to have a much more dramatic effect than older applications do..

I know this post is a bit old (like almost 6mo old!) but I had a quick question. Are the “TO GO” sizes a different strength than the full-sized bottles? I bought the Instant Honesty “TO GO” and the Turn Up the Heat “TO GO.” But I may have gotten the double strength for Instant Honesty…so maybe it’s the same dosage per spray??

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2008, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-soon-portable-dosed-pheromones/533/20 "2008-03-03T01:55:57Z")

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The product strength is the same as in the big bottles but the spray nozzle is smaller so 1 spray of a to-go would be about 83% of a spray from a big bottle.

Tisha

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