# Coming to America!! The travel thread

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [November 19, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055 "2008-11-19T16:45:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![emmie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/emmie/32/738_2.png) [@emmie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/emmie)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/1 "2008-11-19T16:45:29Z")

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Hi Guys!

I really want to come over to the states. However, I know no one and, would like some advice on somewhere cheap, clean and safe for a single mother travelling with her 14 year old son. If you have names and Numbers that would be even better. If you can included some fun 14 year old things to do too. My baby would be very happy!

In addition, I don’t mind helping you out with the same info for a Place in the UK & Ireland, France and Spain. ( Europe for those that don’t know where that is.

Thanks guys 😃

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/2 "2008-11-19T16:52:54Z")

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Wow, any destinations in mind? Try this…[Explore North Carolina](http://www.visitnc.com/) . We need the business! LOL. Seriously, North Carolina should give you a good slice of America.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/3 "2008-11-19T17:17:47Z")

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I’ve heard Wine Tasting up along the Californian coast is rather enjoyable and fairly affordable… I can’t remember if they allow 14 yr olds to participate if they are with their parents (In Canada you could… I don’t know the laws in the states so well)

I guess that only works if you and you’re son likes wine…

In the winter Banff up in Alberta/British Columbia, Canada is GREAT - really good snowboarding/skiing and the town is awesome… prices are respectable and you are fairly close to some pretty beautiful locations…

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/4 "2008-11-19T17:28:30Z")

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You could come to my place and the boy can play on my computer… 😃

What kinds of things are you wanting to do?  
Where are you thinking about coming to?  
What time of year are you thinking of coming?

What do you find fun?  
Themeparks, History, science, travel, Natural beauty, hiking, cool drives?

So many cool things to do in so many places, it is hard to decide where to start sending you.

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/5 "2008-11-19T18:06:15Z")

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> [@Wrlprchnx](#):
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> … I can’t remember if they allow 14 yr olds to participate if they are with their parents (In Canada you could… I don’t know the laws in the states so well)…

Nah, us tight a$$ Americans demand you be 21 before you can drink wine.😠

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/6 "2008-11-19T18:44:50Z")

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> [@Mtnjim](#):
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> Nah, us tight a$$ Americans demand you be 21 before you can drink wine.😠

That’s rather unfortunate… You have to be 21 before you can drink at all? Even with your parents (like at supper or something)

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/7 "2008-11-19T19:19:34Z")

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> [@Wrlprchnx](#):
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> That’s rather unfortunate… You have to be 21 before you can drink at all? Even with your parents (like at supper or something)

In theory yes, and in restaurants they watch this pretty close, but in a private homes, they can’t watch everyone.  
I had wine several times at dinner growing up, but supplying your kids with beer and spirits is not legal. It can get you arrested if you kid runs off intoxicated and does stupid things.

Some Bars and winery’s say persons must be at least 18 to enter, and 21 with a valid ID to consume “adult beverages”

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**Author:** ![emmie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/emmie/32/738_2.png) [@emmie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/emmie)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/8 "2008-11-19T21:33:09Z")

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Ahh guys!

You lot are so helpful thanks.

Ok, location needs to be hot. Check!

Near the coast. Check!

Somewhere we can experience the wildlife. Check!

Multi cultural. Check

Lots of arts and culture.

somewhere where the people are non aggressive and patient!

Thanks again

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/9 "2008-11-19T21:38:57Z")

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Hey, seriously you just described NC. We’ve got the Outer Banks famous for Nags Head and the Wright Brothers learning to fly…a boy has to love that! Lot’s of forests down that way too. Really check us out…we’ve got everything you mentioned…it is hotter in the summer but spring and fall rock too.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/10 "2008-11-19T21:50:02Z")

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Ahhh… needs to be hot… throw anywhere in Canada out then… especially where I’m at, at least in the winter anyways

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**Author:** ![emmie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/emmie/32/738_2.png) [@emmie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/emmie)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/11 "2008-11-19T21:54:46Z")

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> [@renny](#):
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> Hey, seriously you just described NC. We’ve got the Outer Banks famous for Nags Head and the Wright Brothers learning to fly…a boy has to love that! Lot’s of forests down that way too. Really check us out…we’ve got everything you mentioned…it is hotter in the summer but spring and fall rock too.

Cool. I’m going to have alook at that link.

Thanks again

Emmie

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**Author:** ![emmie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/emmie/32/738_2.png) [@emmie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/emmie)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/12 "2008-11-19T21:56:40Z")

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> [@Wrlprchnx](#):
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> Ahhh… needs to be hot… throw anywhere in Canada out then… especially where I’m at, at least in the winter anyways

Yeah I have heard that about Canada! But, it’s a great country though right? Cold but great 🙂

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/13 "2008-11-19T21:56:42Z")

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I would say Florida, over California,

The waters of the ocean are warmer, (California Has very cold ocean water)  
lots of culture, Wildlife (both animals in the everglades, and parties on the beaches), cool things to do, Pay homage to the Mouse (Disney world), but I enjoyed Seaworld at 15 more than Disney, universal studios, (and less than an hour and a half drive to the coast) where Kennedy space center (a fun tour of space flight) and a 50 min drive to Daytona Beach.

Another plus - International airport.

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**Author:** ![emmie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/emmie/32/738_2.png) [@emmie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/emmie)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/14 "2008-11-19T21:58:46Z")

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> [@woofie2](#):
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> I would say Florida, over California,
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> The waters of the ocean are warmer, (California Has very cold ocean water)  
> lots of culture, Wildlife (both animals in the everglades, and parties on the beaches), cool things to do, Pay homage to the Mouse (Disney world), but I enjoyed Seaworld at 15 more than Disney, universal studios, (and less than an hour and a half drive to the coast) where Kennedy space center (a fun tour of space flight) and a 50 min drive to Daytona Beach.
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> Another plus - International airport.

Hmm that sounds devine too. Can I ask where you stayed?

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/15 "2008-11-19T21:59:45Z")

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> [@emmie](#):
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> Yeah I have heard that about Canada! But, it’s a great country though right? Cold but great 🙂

cold this time of year, but nice in July and August when it is in the mid-70’s _F(23_C) all the time.

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**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/16 "2008-11-19T22:03:03Z")

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> [@emmie](#):
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> Hmm that sounds devine too. Can I ask where you stayed?

we stayed a few nights in orlando, a few nights in coco beach (across the street from the ocean), (watched a shuttle launch), then went south along the coast to Key West, stopping somewhere along the way for the night. (I can’t remember where we stopped but it was just off the beach again, becasue I remember the ladies in their swimsuits, but not where, hey I was 15 at the time, and that was 18 years ago)

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/17 "2008-11-19T22:13:49Z")

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North Carolina has better Bar B Que than Florida, and nicer people. Where are you coming from Em? I’ll bet we have cultural links to where ever it is. Hey, we’ve got mountains too and did I mention we really need the money? 🙂 J/K I hope you have a great time where ever you go.

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**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/18 "2008-11-19T22:32:27Z")

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> [@emmie](#):
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> Ahh guys!  
> You lot are so helpful thanks.  
> Ok, location needs to be hot. Check!  
> Near the coast. Check!  
> Somewhere we can experience the wildlife. Check!  
> Multi cultural. Check  
> Lots of arts and culture.  
> somewhere where the people are non aggressive and patient!  
> Thanks again

I need to represent my home state of California! We’re called the Golden State for a reason. 😉

Southern California is definitely hot, but can get expensive. It’s near the coast, but if you want to be near water, I’d suggest San Diego over Los Angeles.

Local wildlife? I’m not sure about that, but it’s only a 4 hour drive to Yosemite National Park.

Very multi-cultural, I’m sure you can find a lot of art and culture.

I’m not too sure about the non-aggressive and patient part. LA folks, in my experience, can be touchy. I’ve found San Diego to be much more laid back.

Now, if you don’t mind slightly colder weather (a light jacket at most times, no overcoats or anything), the San Francisco/Bay Area is awesome!

Multi-cultural? CHHHECK! Arts and Culture? Phff, short of NYC, I don’t think you’ll find as much art, live music, or cultural attractions as San Francisco. There is so much culture there.

It is also roughly 4 hours away from Yosemite, and only 2 hours away from Lake Tahoe, a great place to ski/snowboard starting mid November. There is plenty of local wildlife in the form of raccoons, deer, foxes, and such..there are regional parks in Berkeley, Oakland, and San Francisco. I’m sure there are a couple more, but those are the ones I’ve personally been to. Golden Gate Park in SF is very nice to visit.

San Francisco has many accomodations, not all are expensive. You can always find accomodation across the bay in Berkeley, Oakland or Emeryville.

Lastly, the people really couldn’t be any nicer, more patient, or helpful. People are straight up friendly in the Bay. Take my word for it. 😉 I haven’t heard of anyone disliking the people there, save the occasional homophobe who makes fun of San Francisco’s extensive gay population.

One major thing to consider when coming to visit the states is your mode of transportation. European countries have much better public transportation systems than America. I haven’t had the pleasure of using every public transportation in all of America, but I can say that Los Angeles has pretty bad public transportation, and relatively, it isn’t that safe.

San Francisco has an awesome local transit system (MUNI) and a very good city to city transit (BART), in the East Bay, you also have local transit (I forget their name). You can get anywhere in the Bay Area using a combination of those three systems from morning to late night. It is fairly affordable, except they don’t offer week passes or anything of the sort. At least, not to my knowledge, it has been a while since I’ve been back home.

I would say that is a critical factor you may want to consider, if you will not be renting a car. America is a terrible place to try and manuver without a vehicle or sufficient public transportation.

I have been to New York City with my mom (single mother as well, and actually I think I was around the same age as your son), and while it was on the expensive side, there was plenty of culture and art to see. The people are not the friendliest, but they aren’t jerks either. I see no reason to avoid NYC because of their ‘attitude’. The transportation is also good, it may be packed, but at least there is one. The level of safety is lower than San Francisco, but not terrible. Like any city, you just need to watch where you are, and what time of the day you’re out. If you are in the shady side of town at 3 am, no matter what city you’re in, you may find trouble.

Good luck with your travels, it should be really exciting for you and your son. 🙂 If you choose to visit SF/Bay Area, I can suggest many places for you and your son to visit.

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/19 "2008-11-20T01:27:32Z")

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> [@Phya](#):
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> I need to represent my home state of California! We’re called the Golden State for a reason. 😉
> 
> Southern California is definitely hot, but can get expensive. It’s near the coast, but if you want to be near water, I’d suggest San Diego over Los Angeles.

I have to agree with San Diego. You want animals?  
We have the _original_ [Seaworld](http://www.seaworld.com/), not to mention the [San Diego Zoo](http://www.sandiegozoo.org/zoo/index.html) and the [Wild Animal Park](http://www.sandiegozoo.org/wap/index.html) (cage less zoo). I work in San Diego but live 50 minutes away in _mountains_ ([San Diego Mountains, Cleveland National Forest Maps, Laguna Mountain, San Diego Camping](http://www.totalescape.com/active/campstuff/NF/clevelnd.html)), drive another 50 minutes and you’ll be in a _desert_ state park ([http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page\_id=638](http://www.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=638)). Lots of variety.

You can also see the [first mission](http://www.missionsandiego.com/) in California, founded by the Spanish. And then there’s [Old Town](http://www.oldtownsandiegoguide.com/), the site of San Diego’s original location. The current majority of downtown San Diego is an area originally called “New Town”. Then there’s [Balboa Park](http://www.balboapark.org/), the largest city park in the US, it’s where the zoo is, and has lots of museums.

Then there’s the [beaches](http://www.sandiego.gov/lifeguards/beaches/), but it’s getting to be a time of year when you’ll probably want to skip the beaches due to winter weather. There are even [nude beachs](http://blacksbeach.org/blacks.html) ([Blacks and San Onofre](http://gocalifornia.about.com/cs/clothingoptional/l/bl_nb_ctysd.htm)) if that trips your trigger.

You _could_ cross the border into [Mexico](http://www.tijuana.com/en/index.html) using the busiest port of entry in the world, but you probably shouldn’t. The State Department issued travel warning because of a war between the Mexican Government and the drug cartels.

San Diego has one of the largest [Chaldean](http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/diocese/dsdch.html) populations out side of the Middle East as well as a large [Somali](http://www.hornafrica.org/) population. You will hear Spanish spoken here almost as much as English, no to mention Viet Namese.

All of this stuff should keep you busy.

Oh, I almost forgot we’re only an hour (on a good day) away from Los Angeles and [Smartmones.com](http://Smartmones.com)!!

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**Author:** ![emmie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/emmie/32/738_2.png) [@emmie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/emmie)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/coming-to-america-the-travel-thread/23055/20 "2008-11-20T08:20:44Z")

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> [@woofie2](#):
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> we stayed a few nights in orlando, a few nights in coco beach (across the street from the ocean), (watched a shuttle launch), then went south along the coast to Key West, stopping somewhere along the way for the night. (I can’t remember where we stopped but it was just off the beach again, becasue I remember the ladies in their swimsuits, but not where, hey I was 15 at the time, and that was 18 years ago)

No wonder I was getting caught up in the romance of it all..lol. Sounds great though 😃

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