# Complete noob here, need some advice... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 20, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128 "2008-12-20T23:41:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Damon\_Kay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@Damon\_Kay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damon_Kay)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128/1 "2008-12-20T23:41:43Z")
Greetings all! This is my first post besides my introduction and I was looking for some advice. First some background… I am a 25 year old male college student. About a month ago me and my wonderful girlfriend of 4 years sadly ended our relationship. Recently we have been having light communications and now we have agreed to simply meet for coffee. I guess it goes without saying that my interest in pheromones arose from wanting to attract her back to me. So I have been lurking around here a bit, and its a lot of info to take in. Anyway, I tried to make as informed purchase as possible and here is what I have: Ammunition------- full bottle [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)– full bottle Instant Shine-----to go bottle I have never worn any pheromones before, and I was wondering what, how much, and where to apply. I have so much riding on our meeting, and I don’t want to mess anything up or OD. I figured only one spray of the Ammo on the chest seeing as it in the -none group. Should I use both of the others? My ex is a very sweet, shy 21 year old girl. I always had issues getting her to open up to me and with our physical relationship. As for me I am a caring, open guy with a moderate amount of self confidence. Also I have decided that the purpose or our coffee meeting is NOT to discuss our past relationship and issues. I just want to see her, and have her see me, chat and have some fun being around each other again. Basically I want to reignite that “spark” of interest, and get things started again. I want her to leave our meeting with a refreshed view of me, above all else I want her to have a relaxed enjoyable experience around me, and I want her to really want to spend more time with me. Thank you all for your input, I have a lot riding on this… ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128/2 "2008-12-21T00:33:10Z")
I’d stay away from IH, if you could get your hands on IO? IH, to me, it has more of a “just friends” connotation to it. It’s good for first and second dates, or trying to get some information out of someone, but after that, I’d lose it. I’d say a shot of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), a shot of IS, and 2 shots of IO (if you can get it). That should have a “talk to me, but I’m not ‘just a friend’” and sexy kind of vibe to it. Good luck man! ---
**Author:** ![Damon\_Kay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@Damon\_Kay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damon_Kay)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128/3 "2008-12-21T01:06:08Z")
wow stay away from instant honesty huh? I think we are meeting up tomorrow so I don’t think I could get any [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) in time, but I could order it or others for future use with her. I plan on taking it slow, coffee tomorrow, wait a few days, then lunch, maybe dinner… Thanks for the input! [here](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/saying-hello/24017) is the thread that led me to the Instant Honesty. Anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![RYKR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@RYKR](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RYKR)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128/4 "2008-12-28T23:18:41Z")
May ask how did the meet go? Did the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) help in any way? I’m currently in the same situation you are in. ---
**Author:** ![ericm2487](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7993a0/32.png) [@ericm2487](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ericm2487)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128/5 "2008-12-29T02:59:53Z")
> [@Damon\_Kay](#): > > Greetings all! This is my first post besides my introduction and I was looking for some advice. First some background… > > I am a 25 year old male college student. About a month ago me and my wonderful girlfriend of 4 years sadly ended our relationship. Recently we have been having light communications and now we have agreed to simply meet for coffee. I guess it goes without saying that my interest in pheromones arose from wanting to attract her back to me. > > So I have been lurking around here a bit, and its a lot of info to take in. Anyway, I tried to make as informed purchase as possible and here is what I have: > > Ammunition------- full bottle > Instant Honesty-- full bottle > Instant Shine-----to go bottle > > I have never worn any pheromones before, and I was wondering what, how much, and where to apply. I have so much riding on our meeting, and I don’t want to mess anything up or OD. > > I figured only one spray of the Ammo on the chest seeing as it in the -none group. Should I use both of the others? > > My ex is a very sweet, shy 21 year old girl. I always had issues getting her to open up to me and with our physical relationship. As for me I am a caring, open guy with a moderate amount of self confidence. > > Also I have decided that the purpose or our coffee meeting is NOT to discuss our past relationship and issues. I just want to see her, and have her see me, chat and have some fun being around each other again. Basically I want to reignite that “spark” of interest, and get things started again. > > I want her to leave our meeting with a refreshed view of me, above all else I want her to have a relaxed enjoyable experience around me, and I want her to really want to spend more time with me. > > Thank you all for your input, I have a lot riding on this… i’m a whole lot newer than you are to this world but i need to tell you some advice that i’ve discovered in my 21 years. haha. for real though: stop worrying so much about impressing her. you say there is “so much riding on this date”. thats not the mindset you wanna have going into this. trust me only bad things happen with taht mindset. you feel like you have to act differently to impress her. i cant say for certain if these pheromones work, i hope they do, but if they do and you are yourself and aloof and casual, she’ll be the one trying to impress you. goodluck man! ---
**Author:** ![Damon\_Kay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@Damon\_Kay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damon_Kay)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128/6 "2008-12-29T05:04:41Z")
> [@RYKR](#): > > May ask how did the meet go? Did the pheromones help in any way? > > I’m currently in the same situation you are in. Of Course! The meeting went okay– We met for coffee, I kept it light and short. I wore 1 spay ammo to the chest, 2 sprays Instant Shine to the neck, and 1 spray Instant Honesty spread between both wrists. I called her a few days later and she agreed to have dinner with me. In the mean time I ordered a bunch more of the sprays so I had more options at my disposal. I wore the same pheros except I swaped the Instant Honesty for Instant Openness on the wrists, and I used some [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) on my neck as well. Dinner went okay-- She was more at ease than our first meeting. After dinner I brought up getting back together (too soon?) and she said she still cared for me, she is interested in a reconciliation at some point, BUT shes just not ready right now… As for the Pheromones- I can’t really pinpoint any evidence that they worked or had any effect of her. Everyone on here says start with one phero, wear it for a week at different doses, then try another product, but I just don’t have all that time to do all that experimenting. I’m just really looking forward to some solid results! I’m hoping I can find something that works with our chemistry and will really help our relationship in the future. Maybe for dinner I wore too much and came off to strong. She is really the type of girl that you could easily come off to strong with. She may have been slightly more open with her feelings than normal. Its just so hard to say… Any advice is appreciated, thanks guys! ---
**Author:** ![wiseowlk12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@wiseowlk12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiseowlk12)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 6:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128/7 "2008-12-30T06:00:22Z")
I would double up on the instant Honesty next time…it seems to me it would work better in building a deeper channel of communication and the ammo might intimidate her from what you told us…[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Honesty 2x seems like a good combo…maybe with some instant gentelman (this one is always good). Also why not try a date with something more exciting…studies have shown that dates involving physical activities promote bonding at the neurological level. Hope things work out man. ---
**Author:** ![Damon\_Kay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@Damon\_Kay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Damon_Kay)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128/8 "2008-12-30T18:56:05Z")
> [@wiseowlk12](#): > > I would double up on the instant Honesty next time…it seems to me it would work better in building a deeper channel of communication and the ammo might intimidate her from what you told us…Instant Openness and Honesty 2x seems like a good combo…maybe with some instant gentelman (this one is always good). > > Also why not try a date with something more exciting…studies have shown that dates involving physical activities promote bonding at the neurological level. > > Hope things work out man. Thanks for the advice! The next time I see her I will go with the openness and honesty combo. I considered the [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), but I am 4 years older than her, and the description says “Also useful when you want to seem older and wiser than your actual age.” With my next order I was thinking of getting some A314. thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![wiseowlk12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d2c977/32.png) [@wiseowlk12](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wiseowlk12)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2008, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/complete-noob-here-need-some-advice/24128/9 "2008-12-30T21:46:31Z")
I would still go with Instant Gentlemen over A314 it it more versatile and can be worn with more pheros. IG is good for young and old not just to make you appear older but makes older people appear more “hip” and youthful kind like a sauve james bond.