# Concenus: Is P93 better than Instant Female Magic? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 6, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836 "2008-05-06T16:51:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/1 "2008-05-06T16:51:26Z")
I have been looking at [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) vs IFH for a long time. And I am wondering if it makes sense to add both in a mix. Or just one or the other. Mostly in the Comfort and closeness department. ---
**Author:** ![methos88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@methos88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/methos88)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 11:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/2 "2008-05-07T11:25:28Z")
If you mean [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) (aka androstadienone), it is the more proven chemical and has a much longer track record in terms of eliciting comfort in females. However, you won’t know for sure, the full extent of negative self effects, if any, until you use it personally yourself. Maybe a small, trial size is in order? Not familiar with P93 so can’t comment on that. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/3 "2008-05-07T16:50:24Z")
I only had a togo of [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/), but it had no detectable benefit for my targets. Zippo. However, both A-1 and IFM work amazingly well for female mood enhancement during PMS. Pretty subtle otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Plotinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@Plotinus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Plotinus)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/4 "2008-05-07T16:54:36Z")
I don’t know about [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/), I haven’t used it. I do know that IFM has some effects on me that I really strongly dislike. It puts me in a kind of horny, desperate, depressed mood of low self-confidence. Kind of like the opposite of what A314 does for me, and yet, when I use them together the IFM overpowers the A314… perhaps because I use A314 more often? ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/5 "2008-05-07T22:04:52Z")
They are different and one cannot be substituted for the other. At least, not in order to achieve the exact same effects. [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) will steer the combo/mix one direction while IMF will steer it in another direction altogether. That being said, I don’t know if I would pick either one as a _favorite_ per say, but I would rather have p93 with me than IMF. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/6 "2008-05-07T22:38:22Z")
Both are useful in their own way. Ideally one would rotate P93 and IFM and other useful [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to keep target ‘on their toes’ and responding. Having said that, I prefer using P93 more often that IFM because of the side effects of IFM on me and other men around me. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/7 "2008-05-07T23:08:47Z")
I would answer “yes” if the question was “is p93 a good product with decent results?” They are not really confort and closeness for me But there is no way to compare 2 completely different product. I know that the negative effects of p93 is very weak, so nothing to worry about depressing others or yourself > [@Matrixzer0](#): > > And I am wondering if it makes sense to add both in a mix. Or just one or the other. They are dependent product, so the results wont be affected if u mix them ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/8 "2008-05-08T15:48:50Z")
I wouldn’t say IFM’s negative results are weak. The last time I tried it I really felt like shit… Surely that depends on the individual. ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/9 "2008-05-08T16:00:23Z")
Hello guys! I think that the two Pheros have a different purpose. I’ve both of them, and I use them in different ways. IFM - Looks like being more helpful when the woman is stressed or feeling bad or she’s moody. [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) - Is more uplifting, but the woman has to be already ok. If she’s already in the right mood, it’ll boost her to the stars. I hope I explained mysef well :-). See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![methos88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/22d042/32.png) [@methos88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/methos88)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/10 "2008-05-08T19:52:39Z")
I just started using mx203 which contains [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) and just had great night as far as hits goes. You can read about it in my journal. So you know which one I would recommend now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![marsgate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marsgate/32/168_2.png) [@marsgate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marsgate)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/11 "2008-05-09T03:40:58Z")
SO, let’s pretend the poll was titled “Is P93 more effective than [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) in inspiring feelings of intimacy on a female who is in a relatively good mood?” ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/12 "2008-05-09T07:21:37Z")
Hello Marsgate, for my short experience on P93, I never had intimacy-related results, but women were looking somehow flirty. Not so obviously, but, were many eyes contacts, smiles, etc… I’m palnning to take some 20 mcg or 30 mcg P93 to test it better. Anyway, I find that work really well in match with [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). In fact, my “come party with me II” mix is made of P74 + P93 + TUTH, and it works wonders. For more informations on this mix, you can find much in my journal. See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![Matrixzer0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@Matrixzer0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Matrixzer0)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/13 "2008-05-10T00:23:37Z")
> [@marsgate](#): > > SO, let’s pretend the poll was titled “Is P93 more effective than Instant Female Magic in inspiring feelings of intimacy on a female who is in a relatively good mood?” I know its just I wanted to make a topic quickly on P93 vs IFM badly. Oh well. BTW does it make sense to add both of them in Mixes. Or pour the two in the same bottle. I wonder how P93, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Honesty x2 and MX138. Would be like? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 9:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/14 "2008-05-10T09:24:56Z")
> [@Matrixzer0](#): > > I wonder how P93, Instant Female Magic, Instant Honesty x2 and MX138. Would be like? 😃 I’m planning to create a similar mix (I’ve created a thread some days ago to receive more input on something like the ultimate comfort/bonding mix). It would contain [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/), IFM (maybe - I have to see if I somehow can counteract the depressive effects), IH x4 and IS x2 (or TAA - I just received my bottle of TAA @ 50 mcg/spray and will test it over the next days to see if it indeed provides more pronounced results in others than IS). ---
**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/15 "2008-05-10T12:29:52Z")
\*\* > [@](#): > > [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) - Is more uplifting, but the woman has to be already ok. If she’s already in the right mood, it’ll boost her to the stars. by runner I agree if they are happy and comfortable to begin with it will enhance their nature , I’ve tried this on girls and guys who are having a bad day but are normally cheerfull and it seems to bring out a calm affectionate nature out of them, for me it works well on girls under 29 the more immature and underdeveloped maturity the better results regarding changes in moods, perfect for store clerks or cashiers at stores who are in their teens or still young, they just smile at me and want to give me advice and help out for no reason, does not work well with ethnic guys or girls IMO, I guess you have to be cheerfull and happy inside for it to surface in the 1st place, I actually feel calm and collected when I spray this on myself as well , it doesnt have a punch more like a slow diffusive ticking time bomb of helpfullness. Ciao “J” \*\* ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/16 "2008-05-10T12:39:30Z")
And what amount (mcg) of [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) seems to give you the best results? ---
**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/17 "2008-05-10T13:00:11Z")
> [@](#): > > And what amount (mcg) of [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) seems to give you the best results? **I’ve always used 2 sprays @25mcg and usually later in the day I would top it up with 1 more spray of 25mcg. It seems to be working as long as I have it on as I can tell from my targets when Im talking, if the eye contact drops then I top it up thats when I know somethings changed or wrong, when I have p93 on you can gage your targets they look at you differently then normal as if your not there sometimes or they sometimes dont look you directly in your eyes more like your nose or mouth normal people just look away without p93 with p93 they are still focused on your face but they move around your face quite abit quite erratic. But no more then 3 sprays of 25mcg a day.** ---
**Author:** ![marsgate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marsgate/32/168_2.png) [@marsgate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marsgate)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/18 "2008-05-10T15:29:28Z")
> [@Jasx69](#): > > when I have p93 on you can gage your targets they look at you differently then normal as if your not there sometimes or they sometimes dont look you directly in your eyes more like your nose or mouth This is impressive, if true. I’m sure I don’t have to tell you guys what eyes focused on lips means. Would you say the main difference between [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) and Alpha Androstenol is that AA inspires chatty conversation while P93 inspires INTEREST in you? Sounds like A314 without the intimidation factor… ---
**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/19 "2008-05-10T16:28:00Z")
\*\*Personally [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) wasn’t sexual at all for me or my targets it came off as more of a family familiarity and bonding type of thing, I would say that it has similarity to A314 for with my personal observation and usage of this, and a bit of IFM as well seem to calm upset females down or bring out a happier mood in themselves. but the stress free observation in my own self effect is concrete though I feel focused yet abit numb to a point of contentment. yes when I have A314 on myself Im actually more prone to make people scatter away with P93 it does feel similar but my targets are a little bit more playfull with me as in they respect me but they will still be a little cheeky around the edges, where else with A314 everyone including myself is just straight as a nail total respect and serious, I dont know why but whenever I have A314 on I can hardly smile I feel confidant but I dont appear happy P93 makes me calm and collected. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836/20 "2008-05-10T22:17:51Z")
As this sort of seems to be the current thread for p93 discussion, can anyone comment on this? I was thinking that some people have been reporting positive results with mx203 with non-caucasians. I wonder if it’s possible that one of the quirks of mx203 is that you get better results from people of similar ethnic background? Any caucasians get strong hits from latinos, asians, etc..with mx203? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/concenus-is-p93-better-than-instant-female-magic/189836.md?page=2)