# Confused on OD? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 24, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738 "2008-04-24T00:14:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/1 "2008-04-24T00:14:01Z")
Hey guys, I’m a tad bit confused. I have tried to take none to the OD level (not mega OD) but I have been wore: 2 drops of Raw Powder 2 drops of RW + 1 drop of Dirty 2 Drops of Alpha 7 2 sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) + 3 sprays of TUTH All covered with 2 drops of A314 More than a “why can’t I OD?” question it is a “can may none natty production be that low?” question. What would you guys recommend? Also (don’t even know if it matters) I heard everybody saying how RW and Dirty stink. I don’t even think the smell is strong in fact I think it is very light for both. Can’t perceive any smell from Alpha 7 nor the Edge they just smell like nothing to me. Could it be that none just doesn’t cause an effect on me or something? Thanks in advance guys! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/2 "2008-04-24T00:17:16Z")
Sometimes I can’t smell none either. When you say OD what exactly are you looking for as an OD? When wearing those items you mentioned is that all at once? If so what effects have you been getting? ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/3 "2008-04-24T00:26:35Z")
Thanks Steve, no each line was a different time. OD I’m looking for is repulsive looks maybe aggressiveness (not that I wanna fight just to experiment lol) Forgot to st that AMMO was 2x I’ve been getting very good effects on girls I already know, and some kind of slight flirting from other women, but that’s it. (I don’t mean they don’t work I am just wondering if my natural none production is that low that at 28 I don’t OD at those doses) or can my open, joking, smiling attitude and always had this kind of arrogant but funny sense of humor, can affect the fact that I am not ODing? Thanks again man ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/4 "2008-04-24T05:57:08Z")
I thought pretty much the same until I got my [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) and went out with 5 drops A314 plus 5 drops Raw Power. A couple of women were intrigued but most ghosted me. No aggressiveness though. ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 1:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/5 "2008-04-24T13:47:26Z")
> [@](#): > > I thought pretty much the same until I got my Raw Power and went out with 5 drops A314 plus 5 drops Raw Power. A couple of women were intrigued but most ghosted me. So did you find your sweet spot for RW + A314? You know yesterday night it was weird, a girl I’ve been going out with told me “I don’t like the smell of those things you are wearing” (it being 2 drops of Alpha 7 + 2 of A314. I asked her if it smelled any different than the previous days (I had been wearing the combos above) she said “no, they all smell the same I don’t think they are different things they all smell the same” (technically they are all -none + a314). She said “they make you smell like a dirty old man or the sterotypical truck driver” (here in Mexico the sterotypical Truck Driver is like a horny redneck) But then after havind sex she said “I love the way you smell”. I don’t know what to think of it, maybe I do smell bad (OD) and I just haven’t noticed cause I can’t smell the none, just that A314 makes the aggression go away? Any thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/6 "2008-04-24T14:39:53Z")
> [@E\_J](#): > > So did you find your sweet spot for RW + A314? > > You know yesterday night it was weird, a girl I’ve been going out with told me “I don’t like the smell of those things you are wearing” (it being 2 drops of Alpha 7 + 2 of A314. I asked her if it smelled any different than the previous days (I had been wearing the combos above) she said “no, they all smell the same I don’t think they are different things they all smell the same” (technically they are all -none + A314). She said “they make you smell like a dirty old man or the sterotypical truck driver” (here in Mexico the sterotypical Truck Driver is like a horny redneck) > > But then after havind sex she said “I love the way you smell”. > > I don’t know what to think of it, maybe I do smell bad (OD) and I just haven’t noticed cause I can’t smell the none, just that A314 makes the aggression go away? > > Any thoughts? Not yet. So far, I get the best results from A314, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and Ammo (or Turn Up the Heat). I use 5 of each. This combo is very nice. I tried A314 + 1 drop Raw Power but I don’t get the strong vibe of interest wherever I go that I usually do. Maybe I’ll try two drops today. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/7 "2008-04-24T15:59:54Z")
I do not smell [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) neither, and find two drops is good, anymore and I OD’ed i read in one of the threads somewhere that not everyone can smell -none and if you OD only like 30% can smell it, so might not know how bad it is until you run into someone who can smell it ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/8 "2008-04-24T16:28:43Z")
If you really want to OD try 12 to 20 sprays of TUTH ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/9 "2008-04-24T16:37:50Z")
> [@SteveO](#): > > If you really want to OD try 12 to 20 sprays of Turn Up The Heat Naw, I got a to-go bottle of 112.5 mcg Androstenone that hisses at me whenever I open my medicine cabinet. Lets give him a zap or two. ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/10 "2008-04-24T16:56:14Z")
> [@](#): > > If you really want to [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) try 12 to 20 sprays of [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) Sounds like a good idea! just to see what OD is like, I believe everyone should experience it at least once, no? Will OD be because I stink? or because people subconsciouly react to the pheros even if they don’t perceive the smell? > [@](#): > > Naw, I got a to-go bottle of 112.5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram) [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) that hisses at me whenever I open my medicine cabinet. Lets give him a zap or two. 112.5 per spray? Wow, that’s a lot, what did you get it for? mixing? Thanks all for the responses. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/11 "2008-04-24T17:07:10Z")
> [@E\_J](#): > > Will OD be because I stink? or because people subconsciously react to the pheros even if they don’t perceive the smell? > > 112.5 per spray? Wow, that’s a lot, what did you get it for? mixing OD will be a reaction to the Androstenone signature, and you will see either a repulsive, agitated or ghosting effect on women, and a possible aggression effect on men. I got the 112.5 mcg bottle as a freebie in one of my orders. But yeah, mixing is about the only thing I would use it for. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/12 "2008-04-24T17:34:49Z")
> [@E\_J](#): > > Hey guys, I’m a tad bit confused. I have tried to take none to the OD level (not mega OD) but I have been wore: > > 2 drops of Raw Powder > 2 drops of RW + 1 drop of Dirty > 2 Drops of Alpha 7 > 2 sprays of Ammo + 3 sprays of Turn Up The Heat > > **All covered with 2 drops of A314** > > More than a “why can’t I OD?” question it is a “can may none natty production be that low?” question. > > What would you guys recommend? > > Also (don’t even know if it matters) I heard everybody saying how RW and Dirty stink. I don’t even think the smell is strong in fact I think it is very light for both. Can’t perceive any smell from Alpha 7 nor the Edge they just smell like nothing to me. > > Could it be that none just doesn’t cause an effect on me or something? > > Thanks in advance guys! A314 is a GREAT buffer for none heavy mixes… if you wanna od don’t use A314. ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/13 "2008-04-24T18:35:46Z")
> [@renny](#): > > A314 is a GREAT buffer for none heavy mixes… if you wanna od don’t use A314. tell me about it 4 drops of A314 + 2 TAA oil and i was wearing 30mcg -none without OD (recording to nibbla’s math 🙂 ) that is like 3 drops of [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/).. i am still afraid to test this again 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bonecrkr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@Bonecrkr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bonecrkr)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/14 "2008-04-24T18:51:17Z")
> [@renny](#): > > A314 is a GREAT buffer for none heavy mixes… if you wanna od don’t use A314. That explains alot. I usually wear 5 sprays of Ammo or [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) and I never went OD until I tried 5 drops of Raw Power. I always use 2 to 5 drops of A314 as a “base”. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/confused-on-od/11738/15 "2008-04-24T19:03:07Z")
> [@Bonecrkr](#): > > That explains alot. I usually wear 5 sprays of Ammo or Turn Up the Heat and I never went OD until I tried 5 drops of Raw Power. I always use 2 to 5 drops of A314 as a “base”. 5 sprays of Ammo or TUTH is only 12.5 mcg’s of None. 5 drops of [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) is 50mcg’s.