# congruence, -none OD and muscles? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 14, 2008, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/congruence-none-od-and-muscles/17501 "2008-08-14T11:52:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 8
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2008, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/congruence-none-od-and-muscles/17501/8 "2008-08-14T15:08:56Z")
> [@LifeT](#): > > what kind of surgery? > [@The Antiperspirant Deodorants and Sticks got me in TROUBLE!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-antiperspirant-deodorants-and-sticks-got-me-in-trouble/16315): > > Most of you know that i am a scent freak. So i use allot of Perfumes with the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). And for the armpits i use Antiperspirant Deodorants and dry Sticks.. Sometimes BOTH. Apply a layer of the dry stick then spray it with Antiperspirant Deodorant. I have been using this since 16 years old slight_smile Suddenly out of nowhere i started feeling pain under my armpits. There was s huge red swelling there. In 2 days the pain was unbelievable and i had to go to the hospital. They took me … not that good experience @bosshank I am 26 and… without the buffers the -none comes too hard on me. Usually my daily mixes are with no more than 10mcg of none. Most of the time ~5mcg. It seems to add the edge that i need. But at clubbing i go up to 20-30mcg with excellent results. Then again.. i buffer it allot with social friendly [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and Putatives. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/congruence-none-od-and-muscles/17501)._