# Consider your Leaf Stamped.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [April 24, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350 "2009-04-24T17:11:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/41 "2009-09-30T00:43:06Z")

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Hey buddy glad you got reporting user status! I was so thrilled(and surprised) when I got that message. I’ll be trying out Meo-EST soon and I’ll be doing a journal as well. You can read about it and see if you want it. Anyway, keep it up man!

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**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/42 "2009-10-02T13:00:38Z")

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Bleh.

Been having a roughish two days. Been staying inside my head for most of them. Haven’t applied phero’s either - but I doubt this is a come-down.

Just feeling rather under appreciated and insignificant from people around me. Slumps tend to come every now and again. I’ve been watching what I eat, though - as I tend to over-indulge when I’m bored/alone/depressed.

Anyway, as some of you may know - I’m currently in my first actual long-term relationship. It’s been 7 and a half months. So, it’s all new ground for me. Hence, lots of confusion, anxiety and worry. (Though, don’t get me wrong - there is also some positives to it too!).

I guess the last two instances that have thrown me off happened yesterday. Excuse me, as I use this journal for catharsis.

I had a quiz night and stein (engineering drinking party) that I was looking forward to for two weeks on the night. I then realised (two days before), that I had a meeting on the thursday night to get to. It was going to be important - and there were some issues I felt very strongly about that I wanted to bring up. Anyway, I cancel going to the quiz night, and tell myself I’ll end up going to the stein a bit later. I show up at the meeting house at 8 - to see the guy who’s meant to be holding it get into his car with a friend of his. He sees me and comes over to me and says “oh, yeah. Sorry. Everyone had assignments today and couldn’t make it. I forgot to send a text out.”. He is known for being completely unreliable, yet sadly he’s the one running this whole organisation. If it were up to me, I’d have left by now - but him and my girlfriend are the co-founders - so I’m there supporting her. Meh. I get a bit annoyed, and tell him that I had cancelled a whole lot of my plans so I could make it tonight - then I say thanks and leave. I am quite annoyed at this point. I end up going to the stein in a relatively foul mood. We managed to build a 220 cup 10-sided-triangle-based pyramid out of plastic cups. That cheered me up a bit, but it haden’t been too great of a day.

Below is what had happened earlier.

I was going into university for less than an hour for one meeting on Thursday - so I call up the girlfriend and let her know this (as she goes to the neighbouring university very close to mine) so that I could give her a lift home with me if she was staying that long. We usually take a bus to university since it’s cheaper - but staying for only an hour would be pretty cheap in terms of parking and would take up only 40 minutes in total travel time rather than 2 hours.

I get there, have a meeting, and finish within the half hour. I try and give her calls, and texts to let her know that I was done - but it went straight to voicemail. I get a text 45 minutes later (which I waited - because I thought she was still there) from her brother telling me that she’s at home. Go figure. I ended up paying for two hours of parking. Not exactly feeling on top of the world there. I could’ve gone home when I first tried to call her and didn’t get a reply - but decided to stay based on the chance that she might still be depending on me for a ride home. Still waiting for some sort of acknowledgment from her. I don’t think it’ll come.

I’ve been having these thoughts for a while now - but things have gotten to the point where I don’t really think of her as a girlfriend - but more like a friend that I hang out and seldom fool around with. But then there are moments, small, tiny moments when it’s really really good. When everything is aligned and everything flows absolutely smoothly. But, it hardly happens.

Having her dad absolutely hate me for being of a different ethnicity doesn’t help too much. He ignores me when I go into their house and I say hi, or bye. He doesn’t answer the door when I knock. Meh. I still try to be nice, though - even though it’s literally like saying hi and bye to a brick wall every time you enter/leave a house.

Wow, I’m getting totally carried away here. Oh well - I’ll take the full plunger as I seem to have already gone this far.

I still haven’t said the three words… I dunno. It’s not that I don’t want to - it’s just that I don’t think I can. Firstly, I have absolutely no idea what I’m meant to feel before I say them. It’s just something I’ve never understood. I’m not the type to say something without absolutely being sure of it first. So, I’ll hold it back until I am 100% sure. But, there are moments, where I am just about to yell it out because things are going so well - but then they just turn apathetic again.

I’m also not sure as to the nature of gift-giving in relationships goes, but she once made me a small soft toy when she was bored - which I really liked 🙂 But, Valentines day (where I attempted to make a soft toy but ended up setting it on fire out of frustration, then ended up giving her a card with the full story using illustrations with crayons, colouring pencils/pens and glitter pens), 6 month anniversary (showed up at her door with a Gerbera in hand, and a 500GB Harddrive in the other (I knew she needed one)) and fairy lights on one occassion (they were fairy lights dressed up as actual fairies 😃 )

Nothing from her on both occassions. Then, comes my birthday - where I get nothing again. This strikes me as odd. She told me that she wanted to get me a mouse (which would have been great) - but she said she didnt because my mum wouldnt have liked it and gotten annoyed (which is true). But still… She does Visual Arts. You’d think that she could have atleast drawn something or stitched something together. I dunno. Even a birthday card would have been nice. I’m not WANTING anything - but, just it seems a little odd that there’s nothing there. You’d think there would be ☹

Now I’m just at the point of venting - sorry guys - this isn’t really a great post to read!

I’m just… unsure. I don’t know - that’s the best word to describe it. There’s cultural deterrents from my family’s side (they’re against promiscuity etc.) and I don’t know. It’s just… meh. I know the best thing to do would be to sit down with her and talk - but I don’t know how. What do I say? What do I do? I’m not someone who can do this very well… I know every relationship is different, and you’re not really meant to compare them - but a little help would be great. A little advice. I don’t have any friends at this stage who have been in long-term relationships, and my parents I can’t really go to. So, meh. You guys are the only ones left 🙂

A lot of things are up in the air right now. I apologies for the lack of humour and general pep you guys have been used to in my other posts - but, none left here for now. The pep-reservoir has been pillaged.

Sorry for putting you through this post - I’m in a slump and bleh. Anyway, I’ll stop whinging now. Hopefully my next post is relatively phero-based.

Talk to you later!

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**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/43 "2009-10-03T14:44:56Z")

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Today, it was my cousin’s birthday party. Ended up going to laser tag - so, I ended up playing three games. It is a satisfying feeling to get a high score against a group of 10 year olds 🙂 So, needless to say - I was pretty tired all of today.

Not much happened at all - I wanted to go to bed. Got an IM from the girlfriend today, saying she wanted to hang out but wanted to finish an essay as well. She said she only had one paragraph left, so I ended up going to the video store to get out a couple of movies then headed over to hers.

I had put on 2 sprays of IG on my neck. 2 sprays of ISHINE on my neck, and 2 sprays of TUTH under my shirt. I wanted to come off as relatively easygoing tonight - and a bit of TUTH there to induce handholding etc. Thought it’d be an ok test to do.

I got eyed up by the guy in front of me while in line to pay for my dvd’s. It was relatively threatening. He was a pretty skinny guy, though - but still. Haven’t had that before - so I thought it was weird.

I arrived at her house, and after a while of sitting around in her brother’s room with her brother, we went to watch the first movie. She’d already seen it. About halfway through she said that the tv was distracting her - so I told her to go upstairs and finish her essay. She went upstairs. When the movie was over - her brother and I were about to start the next one, so I went up to check on her - she was on an online auction site - great. I’ve been ditched for trademe. I asked her if she had finished her paragraph, and she spazzed out at me saying that I sounded like her mum. Meh. So I leave, and go downstairs and start watching the movie. She ends up coming down as well eventually, and sits next to me. Nothing happens - no handholding, nothing. After it was over - she was quite eager to get me out of the house.

I think this situation is beyond pheromones. I don’t think I’m going to try them anymore around her. I need to sort this relationship out first. The instability right now is not making for great congruency.

Anyway, that’s all for now. I’m tired as and want to sleep. Goodnight!

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/44 "2009-10-03T14:57:42Z")

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> [@LeafStamp](#):
>
> Today, it was my cousin’s birthday party. Ended up going to laser tag - so, I ended up playing three games. It is a satisfying feeling to get a high score against a group of 10 year olds 🙂 So, needless to say - I was pretty tired all of today.
> 
> Not much happened at all - I wanted to go to bed. Got an IM from the girlfriend today, saying she wanted to hang out but wanted to finish an essay as well. She said she only had one paragraph left, so I ended up going to the video store to get out a couple of movies then headed over to hers.
> 
> I had put on 2 sprays of IG on my neck. 2 sprays of ISHINE on my neck, and 2 sprays of TUTH under my shirt. I wanted to come off as relatively easygoing tonight - and a bit of TUTH there to induce handholding etc. Thought it’d be an ok test to do.
> 
> I got eyed up by the guy in front of me while in line to pay for my dvd’s. It was relatively threatening. He was a pretty skinny guy, though - but still. Haven’t had that before - so I thought it was weird.
> 
> I arrived at her house, and after a while of sitting around in her brother’s room with her brother, we went to watch the first movie. She’d already seen it. About halfway through she said that the tv was distracting her - so I told her to go upstairs and finish her essay. She went upstairs. When the movie was over - her brother and I were about to start the next one, so I went up to check on her - she was on an online auction site - great. I’ve been ditched for trademe. I asked her if she had finished her paragraph, and she spazzed out at me saying that I sounded like her mum. Meh. So I leave, and go downstairs and start watching the movie. She ends up coming down as well eventually, and sits next to me. Nothing happens - no handholding, nothing. After it was over - she was quite eager to get me out of the house.
> 
> I think this situation is beyond pheromones. I don’t think I’m going to try them anymore around her. I need to sort this relationship out first. The instability right now is not making for great congruency.
> 
> Anyway, that’s all for now. I’m tired as and want to sleep. Goodnight!

Sorry to hear you had a less than stellar night. Its possible (depending on what time of the month it was for her) that the TUTH even under the shirt might have been a bit much for her. I love androstenone but I find it very difficult to work with.

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**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/45 "2009-10-03T15:00:29Z")

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> [@Snoopyace](#):
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> Sorry to hear you had a less than stellar night. Its possible (depending on what time of the month it was for her) that the TUTH even under the shirt might have been a bit much for her. I love androstenone but I find it very difficult to work with.

Unless it’s been that time of the month for over half a month… I highly doubt it 🙂

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/46 "2009-10-03T15:01:45Z")

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> [@LeafStamp](#):
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> Unless it’s been that time of the month for over half a month… I highly doubt it 🙂

Ouch. Yup, sounds like other issues at work. Good luck with things!

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/47 "2009-10-05T03:51:33Z")

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I definitely see where you’re coming from man. I’m in a relationship with a “friend” but we definitely have those “charged” moments. We haven’t really had any arguments but that’s due to the fact that we both like sarcasm and we tease each other a lot.

I personally would use some IG or A314 to help give you that trustable/dependable vibe and that “Alpha” vibe. Oh, and buy some Andrastenione(I think that’s how you spell it) to help ease her out.

But talk to her first, as you’ve said, because if it’s beyond pheros then there really is nothing you can do.

Best of luck man.🙂

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**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/48 "2009-10-05T07:03:45Z")

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My latest shipment was meant to arrive today. Stupid DHL forwarded it for shipping at 8:15am. Agh!

Ah well - I’m eagerly awaiting the new stock 🙂

@K-Train: I don’t think it’s an issue of trust or dependability. I think there’s just apathy more than anything. We’ll see. She came over today and ended up falling asleep on the couch. She had been up all last night doing an assignment. I put a blanket over her and tried to warm the house up. I’m a weenie when it comes down to it 🙂

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/49 "2009-10-05T15:48:39Z")

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> [@LeafStamp](#):
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> My latest shipment was meant to arrive today. Stupid DHL forwarded it for shipping at 8:15am. Agh!
> 
> Ah well - I’m eagerly awaiting the new stock 🙂
> 
> @K-Train: I don’t think it’s an issue of trust or dependability. I think there’s just apathy more than anything. We’ll see. She came over today and ended up falling asleep on the couch. She had been up all last night doing an assignment. I put a blanket over her and tried to warm the house up. I’m a weenie when it comes down to it 🙂

Lol, really romantic man.😃

But remember, you’re a good catch and if your girl doesn’t realize that then somebody better than her will. It’s how life goes. Your doing the right thing by trying to work it out, but remember, there are other foxes in the forest!🆒

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**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/50 "2009-10-06T01:48:06Z")

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Ok, so, shipment just arrived.

Inside contained are:  
IJ  
P74 (Akuto)  
[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) (Grapefruit)  
Plastic Pipettes  
5x empty To go bottles

Gifts (Thank you so much!)  
30ml IO 4X strength  
MX291 (Togo)  
Chocolates (this was absolutely foul. It was melted and made me gag. Eeeew. But I appreciate the thought!)  
FF20-22 (will give these a try and let you know)

Eager to try some of these soon. Hopefully the opportunity brings itself up. Tra la la. I’m off to skip for a bit now.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/51 "2009-10-06T14:31:44Z")

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You got a 30ml gift of IO 4x???!?!  
Holy carp! That’s amaaaaaaazing.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/52 "2009-10-06T14:35:07Z")

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> [@evolver](#):
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> You got a 30ml gift of IO 4x???!?!  
> Holy carp! That’s amaaaaaaazing.

Yeah, no kidding! That is a great gift!

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**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/53 "2009-10-06T22:28:52Z")

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> [@evolver](#):
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> You got a 30ml gift of IO 4x???!?!  
> Holy carp! That’s amaaaaaaazing.

IO doesn’t really work for me too much. I don’t see any difference at all when I use it. Hopefully this extra dosage does. I usually don’t have a problem with talking to people. I find it quite easy - and usually they all open up to me if I’ve set my sights on them. So, not much left for IO to do 😛

Steve decided to flick this my way when I said so - so, we’ll see!

Thanks again!!!

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/54 "2009-10-06T22:56:04Z")

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> [@LeafStamp](#):
>
> IO doesn’t really work for me too much. I don’t see any difference at all when I use it. Hopefully this extra dosage does. I usually don’t have a problem with talking to people. I find it quite easy - and usually they all open up to me if I’ve set my sights on them. So, not much left for IO to do 😛
> 
> Steve decided to flick this my way when I said so - so, we’ll see!
> 
> Thanks again!!!

Let us know how it goes. I have the same problem with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). I’ve made up a couple of the ICM mixes that are the betanol ones but I recently discovered that the .05a that I have works SO much better for me. My problem is getting people to talk to me, once they start then they tend to want to tell me their deepest darkest secrets. I must have a trusting face.

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/55 "2009-10-07T03:33:45Z")

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Goodness, how did I ever overlook your journal, LeafStamp? It was fun to read it, though, and I’ll stop back in more often now.

I wanted to say thankyou for the chuckle, too. I realize this wasn’t a cheery post, but this one bit…

> [@](#):
>
> I’m also not sure as to the nature of gift-giving in relationships goes, but she once made me a small soft toy when she was bored - which I really liked 🙂 But, Valentines day (where I attempted to make a soft toy but ended up setting it on fire out of frustration, then ended up giving her a card with the full story using illustrations with crayons, colouring pencils/pens and glitter pens),

The image of you setting that wad of fluff on fire and then illustrating it for her, priceless. 😮 😃

You sound like a really nice guy, thoughtful and kind. I hope this girl of yours begins to appreciate what she’s got.

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**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/56 "2009-10-07T05:18:51Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
>
> Goodness, how did I ever overlook your journal, LeafStamp? It was fun to read it, though, and I’ll stop back in more often now.

Thanks, and you’re welcome to stop on by anytime you like! 🙂

As for testing, today I put on a couple sprays of P74 on my neck, to see what it was like. I got it in Akuto scent, and at 15ug per spray.

I don’t think I really like the Akuto scent. It’s a bit cinnamony and spicy for my liking. But I’ll stick with it. Maybe a bit of Neroli will soften it down - I’ll get there with testing.

I ended up missing two busses - so I only got on the bus two hours later.

I spent a total of one hour at university where I was sitting at a table by myself. I run the assistance center there for an hour every wednesday. No students showed up this time - I guess there aren’t any exams or assignments coming up for them in the near future.

As for effects - nothing really to report as I didn’t really come into contact with people today. So, meh. I guess you’ll have to wait until next time.

I also tested out the FF series last night with a group of 5 people, and got their thoughts. FF22 was the clear winner amongst them. Though, I wasn’t that keen on any of the smells. I want Game back! ☹

Turns out that the old girlfriend has been rummaging through my belongings (it’s a habit of hers - she’s naturally nosy. Not out of lack of trust - but more, just inquisitive). She’d found my supply of sprays in a box. Ah well. She knows. She decided to broadcast this to the group last night - hehe.

Won’t be that much of a stretch of her to get on this site and find me on here - so if you’re reading this, HELLO!

When it comes down to it, I’m not really that ashamed that I wear pheromones. She caught me off-guard when she just brought it up. But, I’ve been thinking about it. It’s a nice hobby - one that forces me to be slightly more social than usual, and that does me more good than bad. Plus I really do enjoy coming here on this forum, especially for the people on here. It’s a great part of the day. If anyone asks me from now on - I don’t think I’ll deny it. I’ll come right out and say it. There are misconceptions - and that’s what I’m weary of, but when you really do learn about them, it’s not as creepy as it first sounds 😛

AND as if the gifts from Androtics haven’t been enough. I woke up today with a hefty HEFTY GC from Steve in my inbox. I was utterly shocked. I’m glad he does appreciate me being around. But I just enjoy being part of the community because you guys are great 😃

(And I guess going through the Androtics website and fixing all the spelling mistakes when I couldn’t sleep one night kind of helped)

Anyway, I’m really enjoying being here and I do hope to be here for a while. This is a fantastic hobby and I’m enjoying it!

Till Next time!  
-Leaf

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**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/57 "2009-10-07T05:21:52Z")

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Almost forgot!

I’d really like to bring to light the Newbie Introduction part of the forum, and more specifically for the users that are responding to posts in there. Check out the post link below and have a read-through 🙂

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greeting-new-members-first-responder-bonus/913/84](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greeting-new-members-first-responder-bonus/913/84)

Please do take that on board - I’d really love to see a totally original welcoming section. You shouldn’t be posting in it for the RP’s. And while they’re a good incentive - the true intention should be of your want of helping people and guiding them through their first purchases as pheromone users 🙂

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/58 "2009-10-08T00:43:32Z")

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> [@LeafStamp](#):
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> Almost forgot!
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> I’d really like to bring to light the Newbie Introduction part of the forum, and more specifically for the users that are responding to posts in there. Check out the post link below and have a read-through 🙂
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> [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greeting-new-members-first-responder-bonus/913/84](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greeting-new-members-first-responder-bonus/913/84)
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> Please do take that on board - I’d really love to see a totally original welcoming section. You shouldn’t be posting in it for the RP’s. And while they’re a good incentive - the true intention should be of your want of helping people and guiding them through their first purchases as pheromone users 🙂

Couldn’t have said it any better my friend!

Keep up the good work man. Also, how is Meo-EST working for you? It’s been making me feel super relaxed and worry free.

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**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/59 "2009-10-08T05:54:59Z")

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I don’t have any Meo -EST. I think you’re mistaking me for yourself 😛

It’ll be in my next purchase though. You’ve got it at 50ug/spray, right?

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**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/60 "2009-10-08T13:06:27Z")

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Hey there leaf. I remember a while ago you had asked about the natural -none signature of middle eastern men. Peregrine recently told me in another thread that he suspects (due to cultural observations) that we make more -none than black men. So by this it would be middle eastern \> black \> white \> asian. It does make sense because I have been having trouble seeing the alpha nol effects most people get from Spaceland. Plus, middle eastern men are more aggressive 😛.

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