# Consider your Leaf Stamped. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [April 24, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350 "2009-04-24T17:11:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/61 "2009-10-09T02:59:43Z")
> [@LeafStamp](#): > > I don’t have any Meo -EST. I think you’re mistaking me for yourself 😛 > > It’ll be in my next purchase though. You’ve got it at 50ug/spray, right? 25mcg per spray in a togo. And yeah, I was thinking about me.😃 Anyway, how’s that [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)? I’ve ordered it to bring out the animal in some of my girls of interest if ya know what I mean…🆒 ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/62 "2009-10-10T14:30:02Z")
> [@scotties123](#): > > Hey there leaf. I remember a while ago you had asked about the natural -none signature of middle eastern men. Peregrine recently told me in another thread that he suspects (due to cultural observations) that we make more -none than black men. So by this it would be middle eastern \> black \> white \> asian. It does make sense because I have been having trouble seeing the alpha nol effects most people get from Spaceland. Plus, middle eastern men are more aggressive 😛. I’m not quite so sure. Maybe world events have come into this thinking a bit (9/11, the current war etc.). I know quite a few arabs myself, and the "alpha"ness of them is right across the board (Discussions between each other are usually heated around things like politics etc. But that’s due to the fact that there’s been war throughout their entire lifetimes and they do feel very passionately about everything. I can’t really compare that to the average white or black person. Not in this generation, anyway. I usually have no problems with Spaceland (I get it’s effects fine). It’s IO that’s difficult for me. But that could be due to me being relatively friendly and easy to talk to. I’m not sure. When everything in my life goes back to stable conditions - I’ll start off testing TUTH and IJ. Maybe order some pure -none and see how that pans out - for science! As for now - based on my social observations of arabs, I’m guessing that they’d be between white and black in terms of aggressiveness. I’m sure we’re talking bell-curves here - so ofcourse there will be a bit of spread. Will let you know if I get anything more definitive! > [@K-Train](#): > > 25mcg per spray in a togo. And yeah, I was thinking about me.😃 > > Anyway, how’s that P83? I’ve ordered it to bring out the animal in some of my girls of interest if ya know what I mean…🆒 I tried on [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) in a self-test. I have it in grapefruit scent. I couldn’t decide if the scent was male or female. Made my mind up that it was unisex - since it made me smell like I just ate some grapefruit, and grapefruit is eaten by both sexes. Haven’t really gone near the putatives socially now, as I said before - little congruency in other factors. However, I have begun applying a base of 2 drops of a314 to my jawline. There’s nothing noticeable yet (I’m trying to look at an overall effect here rather than specifics - as that’s what I’ve read about a314. It works quite generally). Last night my girlfriend had a party at hers. Things turned quite ugly between me and her. She was drunk, though. I was a bit upset by the whole thing - I won’t go into it here. I was waiting for an apology all of today. I ended up going to her house since she invited me over tonight. Before I went I decided on 2 sprays of IH on each hand, 2 sprays of IG on neck, and two drops of a314 on neck. Things went pretty well - she told me she was sorry, and I’m pretty sure she meant it. She went on to tell me of the issues she’s currently going through as well. So it did get her talking quite a bit - thanks Androtics. Looks like things are beginning to look up (from the low of last night). So I’m starting fresh tomorrow. It’ll be nice to get back into the groove of things, and I’m hoping they do. I’ll be more happy and optimistic, and sure enough, everything should react in the right way. Parents had a fight tonight. Things will be shakey around the household for the next half week or so. Maybe more - but I hope not. My parents almost seperated over this same issue a year or so ago, so fingers crossed they work it out. But socially - I’m looking up and forward. I applied for a summer research position, and I do hope I get it. I’ve begun to eat less - and hopefully itll show soon. I don’t have enough time for the gym yet - but talked to some friends and I’ll be hitting it quite a bit in a month (the gym, that is). Reporting should be back to normal soon. So bear with me for now! I’m very anxious to try the Putatives - but won’t really bother with them until I can test them in more stable conditions. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/63 "2009-10-10T22:07:49Z")
Hey man, I feel for you and I hope you get through your situation soon. Take things one day at a time, and if you need encouragement or just someone to talk to hit me up with a PM or just drop a thread. We’ll all understand if you need some more time off before getting back into pheros, life happens. Hope things work out!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/64 "2009-10-11T01:53:31Z")
When it rains, it pours, huh? Sounds like its been all-around rough for you lately. I hope that it brightens up soon. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/65 "2009-10-11T03:16:01Z")
Sorry to hear you’re going through tough times. Hope things turn around for you buddy. As for the working out thing, I’m not sure if you’ve worked out in the past or not, but you will start noticing some great effects within a week. You’ll have more energy during the day, you’ll start looking forward to hitting the gym each day, and you will get more confidence then you thought possible. Also, this made me LOL > [@](#): > > I have it in grapefruit scent. I couldn’t decide if the scent was male or female. Made my mind up that it was unisex - since it made me smell like I just ate some grapefruit, and grapefruit is eaten by both sexes. ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2009, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/66 "2009-10-11T05:41:32Z")
> [@moonwhisper](#): > > When it rains, it pours, huh? Sounds like its been all-around rough for you lately. > I hope that it brightens up soon. Thanks. I’m hoping things shape up soon too 🙂 > [@scotties123](#): > > As for the working out thing, I’m not sure if you’ve worked out in the past or not, but you will start noticing some great effects within a week. You’ll have more energy during the day, you’ll start looking forward to hitting the gym each day, and you will get more confidence then you thought possible. I started going to the gym a year ago and managed to keep it up for 2 and a half months. I’d go in 3-4 times a week. Things is - I went by myself. So it got quite boring. Staying in focus was hard, and I’d need to motivate myself to do it. It felt great, and I started getting fitter. Plus the naps afterwards were wonderful. But, I was quite alone. So it should be a bit better this time round. ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/67 "2009-10-17T05:22:53Z")
I slept for about 18 hours. So today, I’m feeling a bit more energised (paid back some of that sleep-debt I’ve accumulated over the last week). I decided to have a go with IJ today - though I was weary to do anything too much with it. Instead, I sprayed a bit under my nose. It hit me. Hard. It was like a surge of energy right through my body. I always find it weird how Neroli does not smell the same across all the different products with the same scent. There’s always that X factor that makes them all completely different. Like scents in 3d. Anyway, off to the local mall to get my mum’s card off her to go buy her present for my sister (it’s my sister’s birthday tomorrow). I notice a relative strongness in my step. I got lost walking around the department store that I entered through - but my stride stayed certain and relatively forceful. Like I didn’t want anyone to know I was lost. It was a good feeling. Got the card from my mum and went off to the city. Went to a music store to look through their vinyl section. Couldn’t find the ones she wanted (Their genre system was messed up. Pop/Rock, Alternative, Blues&Folk, Reggae, Metal, NZ, Soul/Funk, Jazz). Very hard to find things. Ended up, asking for help after 30 minutes of walking around. Talked to the guy in charge of the vinyl and he directed me to where everything was. No real issues there. They didnt have any of the ones I was looking for - so I picked some out. I said to the guy that they’re pretty bad as far as “sections” go. He said he agreed 🙂 The checkout lady was pretty upbeat. I told her it was my first time at the store, as I asked about some of the processes. She was putting stuff on scales etc. I asked for a gift exchange card for all of them - this took her about 3 minutes to complete. I stayed at the checkout counter. Had a girl walk by and smile at me. She must’ve been 6 or 7 years older than me. Meh. Having a girlfriend has more or less bogged down my trying with impressing other girls. Checkout lady came back, and she had given me a few more plastic sleeves for free to use if the ones there got damaged. And she hoped my sister would like the ones I picked out for her. Just generally seemed that she wanted me to be happy. I’m not sure I could call it a hit, maybe just really good customer service 😛 Turns out my car got towed. After waiting about an hour and a half, mum came to bail me out. We made it to the car towing company. Stupid stupid people. They’d put up a sign that is smaller than an A4 piece of paper. Well, two of them actually, across 15 car park spots. Didn’t really spot them. I assumed they were for just those two spots and not the whole lot. Argh! I wouldn’t be suprised if they made them small just so they could tow more cars. $200 gone. Mum paid for it though, which made me glad. But still… The lady at the towing company was a bit sour. If mum wasn’t there, I would have probably been more aggressive. I took the more passive approach by asking “Do you have a student discount here?”. She said no. Anyway, got bailed out by mum. Had to suppress my anger and frustration with the situation. Made sure not to take it out on my mum or sister. Oh well… All in all, it was ok. It definitely made me feel more confident. I’ll try a few more sprays next time. I feel like doing an OD of one of my pheromones sometimes soon. IJ seems like it makes me say what I feel like saying at the time - and it’s hard to keep it down. Be it passive or whatever. I’ll need to do more testing on it to really get it though. Reminds me of a time where I felt that I was the most attractive and had immense “game”. It was a couple years ago, and I had a falling out with TG (at the time), and I just didn’t care about anything or anyone. So, at the Shakespeare Festival/Competition I was at over the weekend, I just said whatever I wanted. Touched whoever I wanted. Blah blah. Just didn’t care. I hadn’t gotten so many phone numbers over two days in my life. It was pretty successful in that regard, I was too upset to really care though, at the time. That’s my day. Now I need to work on my 4 projects that are due in this week ☹ I hope your day has gone better 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/68 "2009-10-17T14:43:16Z")
I was bored. Girlfriend was at a 21st. So went out to a karaoke bar with a couple. They’d wanted more people to come, I guess I was the only one willing at that time. I felt like ODing on something though. I eyed up the 4xIO bottle that Steve had given me. It wasn’t until I had applied the 10 sprays that I realised what I had done. Oh well 🙂 Remember - this is 40 regular doses. That’s 20% of a normal strength bottle. If this didn’t work for me - I don’t know what would. After the initial alcohol smell went away - I felt good, and just ready to leave the house and get things under way. I got a text from them saying it was dead, but I was adamant that I would make it better. I told them about how crap my day was, then went to buy a drink. Got the bartender to choose me one. Vodka chocolate milkshake. Yum 🙂 Got chatted up by two very very old ladies. Reciprocated by being nice. I didn’t want them to stick around too much though. They were loose. (And I mean as in _ **every** _ meaning of that word). The girl who was singing was a bit stupid. Singing black eyed peas song to a bar filled with middle aged patrons. I got up there and sung “all my loving”. Rocked the hiz-ouse. Played a bit of pokies. Ended up winning $8. Nothing special. Lost almost all of it again. Never stay on the same machine! The bouncer came in at this stage and asked me about the pokies. Told him I didn’t understand them either. Just pushed the buttons and hoped something would happen - and it usually did 😛 Had to leave to get my girlfriend and her friend at this stage. Bouncer asked me to jokingly get him a cheeseburger on the way back. Ended up getting one for him - he seemed like a good guy. Brought them along to the bar. Bouncer didn’t ask my girlfriend for an ID - they always assume she’s 13 or something. He said she was cool as long as she was with me - but my other friend got ID’d 😛 Girlfriend seemed tired - so I took her home. Came back. Got talked to lots by drunk people who brought their faces so close to mine. The music wasn’t that loud either. I couldn’t really stand their breath. We ended up playing more pokies. I won $30. I had left home with $28. I think I did alright 😉 Anyway, a very good end to a very bad day. This IO worked. Now I need to find where my dosage level is. Maybe better to try this on a night when everyone’s breath doesn’t smell like cigarettes and alcohol. Good experiment, though. And if I see that bouncer again, I’m sure he’ll be good to me 🙂 All in all, I’m glad IO isn’t lost on me. I know my dosage of a-nol was WAY above normal spaceland at this stage. And I certainly didn’t feel the lethargicness I usually do with Spaceland. I felt energy and lots of it. Wanted to be the life of the party. I was going to have a good night and no one was going to stop me! ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/69 "2009-10-17T22:12:13Z")
Old people blabbing away at you, drunk people feeling compelled to tell you everything, just another day on the job with IO.😉 Glad to see you back in the saddle Leaf, I wondered why it was so quiet around here…😃 ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/70 "2009-10-17T23:03:57Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Old people blabbing away at you, drunk people feeling compelled to tell you everything, just another day on the job with IO.😉 > > Glad to see you back in the saddle Leaf, I wondered why it was so quiet around here…😃 I’m afraid I won’t be around too much over the next couple of weeks. I have 4 projects due in at the end of this week, and an exam in early November. Once I’m over the hangover from the night of the 2nd of November - I’ll be back like before 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/71 "2009-10-19T10:16:23Z")
What is up my playaaaaaaaaaaas? Guess what I did today? Go on. Guess. MX291 😃 Righto, I’m not sure what to count as real hits. This is really my first time blind-testing something. I know no one else on here has really tried it. Ok, I spray twice on my neck, then once on my wrists (wiped together). It was game scented which I really like 🙂 Anyway, felt a bit tired. I had tried this last night in the same way - and also noted the tired self-effects. It’s like a dose of downer for the first little while. I ended up being really sleepy on the bus. Sat in a computer lab at university working on one of four projects due in this thursday :s Nothing really happened there. A few people came by and talked about the project - I felt like I really wanted to help out. I ended up giving them pointers etc. and telling them how I planned to go about something. Then here comes the main thing that’s out of the ordinary. We had to sign up for our project interview times for either the thursday or friday (there are interview slots). We had to be at the TA’s office at 12pm and it’s first come first served. I get there 20 minutes early, and there’s talk about the TA giving out all the friday slots to people who’d come before 12. She came back, and gave a general address to everyone. She said “Some people came to my office at 10. So I thought that it was an inefficient use of their time. So instead, I let them have first come first serve basis. So there are no more Friday interviews left (unless you have very specific excuses)”. I smelled absolute bullshit and felt people around me were annoyed. I didn’t feel like passing the opportunity to call her out on it. I poured gasoline on the spark 😉 “But you broke your own rule. You said that you’re only signing people up at 12” “I decided that it was a waste of their time if I made them wait here for 2 hours” “If I’d known I could get a slot by coming here at 10 - I would’ve come at 10…” _at this point, I get agreements etc. from everyone_ “…Using your logic, if I’d come at 6 - would I have gotten the first slot?” “I think it’s important that I try to explain the situation. I don’t think everyone really understands it” “We understand it very well. Now this is getting to be a waste of time - could you just put the sheet up so we can sign up, and let us know the best way that we can make a formal complaint” She ended up saying ok, and going back into her office for a bit, she put the sheet up. I got fists etc. from people around me, and they kind of were happy about the confrontation. As I was walking around the department labs when I was doing my project later on - I got respect hits etc. Felt really good 🙂 So that’s my day. Didn’t really feel down afterwards. Had an acting class tonight - put on IG and ISHINE. Managed to make everyone there laugh. So, it was good. Kind of knew what I was getting into - so used the combo I thought was best 🙂 I’m not really that mean all the time! I just felt like calling someone out on their bullshit today, and it felt so good to be assertive. More testing is needed - but it’s looking like MX291 is a very alpha mix. Hopefully you guys who also got it free start testing it soon so we can compare 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Alfa1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Alfa1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Alfa1)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2009, 10:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/72 "2009-10-19T10:29:36Z")
Nice work Leaf, It doesn’t hurt to be mean and stand up for yourself to the higher powers every now and then. It shows them you won’t take any shit and that makes for leadership potential… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 8:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/73 "2009-10-24T08:53:11Z")
Last night I went to a gig for a radio station I’m a part of. I have a show on there and am part of the main committee that runs it. My girlfirend is co-founder (not with me though!). The radio station was turning one, and this was a birthday gig. A lot of people were coming that I didn’t know. So I wanted some effects kind of like the karaoke bar last week. Ended up spraying myself 10 times again with IOx4 (didn’t want to take any chances). I’ll start toning it down soon! Four sprays on arms/wrists Four on head Two on neck Followed by two sprays of IJ on the neck for some -none. So this was a well buffered IJ mix. 🙂 I got there, and picked up a roll of tape, and a marker and started giving people nametags. This ended up as a wonderful opener. I had people approaching me all night asking for name tags and even some coming back for more. My girlfriend was running around taking photos and talking to people. This was her gig afterall, so I went solo for tonight. I got rather witty at times. One girl wanted the name “Doorwoman” on her so that people would show her their IDs when they come in (she was a random). I just felt like innuendoing a bit. “Do they call you doorwoman because people slam you all the time? Or is it because people go in and out of you? That’s what you’re made for, right? Do you have a knob?” blah blah blah. Something happened tonight that hasn’t happened to me ever before though. My girlfriend was talking to this guy, she directed him to me to get a nametag. He hugged me and was super friendly. He wanted “friendly” writen under his name. I was suprised at the level of kino he was giving me. Alarm bells were about to ring, but I thought that he probably was just super friendly. We parted ways for a while, and then he met up with me again about 20 minutes later. He wanted a nametag that says “I love Leafstamp” (though, that was my real name there 😉 ). He had unbuttoned his shirt down to halfway and put a chip up to my mouth. I took it out of his hand and ate it. He hugged me again. I was a bit shorter than him, so he did this thing where he’d open his legs into a diamond, and hug me. It was weird. Definitely knew he was flirting with me at this time. He went away. I think I dissuaded him a bit with my objection to his corn chip. (NO! That is NOT a euphimism). After a while I went outside for some fresh air. He invited me to sit down next to him on the footpath so I could write him another nametag. This time he wanted “I love Leafstamp more!”. Go figure. More kino this time. I was getting slightly uncomfortable. As far as gay guys go, though, I can say, while being completely straight, that he wasn’t that bad looking. I could’ve done much MUCH worse in that department. I made an excuse and ended up going back inside. Last time we met was while I was outside. He was leaving. So he did a bit more kino. Asked me for a hug goodbye. Did the diamond thing again. As he was pulling away, he gave me a kiss on the cheek, and then asked for one on the lips and began to lean in. I blurted “I have a girlfriend, and I’m straight. But thanks.” He said “Oh, I’m sorry sorry sorry” and left. His “girlfriend” said that he was gay as they were walking away. I guess I felt a bit flattered that he chose me to go after, but I haven’t had much experience with giving rejection to people. So that’s where my problem was. I should have set the boundary from the beginning. I’ll chalk that one up to experience. Fuck it. I need a haircut. ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/74 "2009-10-31T06:39:27Z")
Last night I decided to try some buffered IJ. 3 sprays 4XIO (two to either side of neck, and one split between back of hands/wrists) 2 sprays IJ (both to neck) Self Effects: Felt good, and like I wanted to go out. Ok, so it was one of my girlfriend’s guy friends’ birthdays. He lives about 50km or so south, so she let him have the party at her place. We’d had a run-in together a couple nights ago when we were out at looking at inorganics (basically when everyone puts the stuff from their house that they don’t need outside their house, and people are free to pick through them until the rubbish truck comes. This happens once a year). It was around 2am and we were in a pretty good neighbourhood. He’s recently come out of a long-term relationship and has a “fuck the world” attitude. So he’s smashing lightbulbs, and doing burn-outs in this neighbourhood that’s known for calling the cops on teenagers and gangs in the area. I warned him a couple of times, but ended up taking everyone home, and leaving him there due to him being so reckless and me not wanting to be pulled up by cops. Anyway, I got there and he apologised to me straight away. First to see me as I got down the driveway. It was pretty good. He was quite drunk though. He’s 20, and he’d invited a bunch of 15-16 year olds there as well. It was quite bleh. He really needs to sort himself out. I make my way into the house and get really good greetings from everyone. I just make sure I get in there with a smile. Got introduced to a few new people - some friend’s younger sister. I told her that “the play ground is up the road. You’ve got the wrong house”. Just generally felt more on top of it. Things with the girlfriend have started going really well again. I’ve been super self-conscious about my body image lately. I know I’ve gotten a bit fat. I’m sure that’s putting her off me. Decided to go to the gym starting Tuesday with a bunch of friends who already go there tuesdays and thursdays. She gave me a bit of a hard time about being a bit wider. She’d pat my stomach and tell it that she wants it to go away, because “it’s not a part of you. It’s part of someone else”. I used the same words against her later in the night as I flicked around her upper arms. She’s got a bit of meat on the bones, but it’s just exactly the right amount. I make sure I do tell her that every so often. I was just more affectionate towards her, and her to me that night. We’d hug more than usual, she’d come and nuzzle up to me when the seat next to me frees up. And I didn’t feel at all threatened by anything socially. She’s got a bunch of guy friends who she’s known for years, and they kind of treat her as one of the guys with boobs. Usually I might find that uneasy, but it seemed alright, because she’d always come back to me in the end. It felt good to have that confidence. There was a guy there that was invited by one of the 15 year olds. She’d met him online and he’d travelled across the country and had met her for the first time that night. It was weird. He had long hair, looked kind of gothic. And 20. (The legal age here is 16. Just thought I should point that out!). At one point I had a camera and was filming everyone. He flipped me the bird when I got to him. I tended to be much more verbally abusive towards him telling him he’s never getting camera time ever again. I dunno - felt like I had to puff my chest out or whatnot. He was a stranger, and I just didn’t feel like he was that welcome here. Managed to keep my mouth shut about it. Shit started to get worse. Birthday boy got drunk. Waaaaaay drunk. (Drinking age here is 18. So everyone is usually over their whole experimentation binge phase by age 17. He’s been hanging out with 15 year olds - so I guess he’s got that mentality about him). He started throwing his phone, crying, because a girl he liked (who is 16) and him were having issues. It was a mess and I didnt feel like getting into it. His friend who he usually stays with (when he comes up to this part of town he stays with either this guy, or at my girlfriend’s house) hid his keys and generally took care of stuff. I started instructing him to do things, but didn’t actually get my hands dirty like I usually would. The last 15 year old there (who had invited internet friend to stay at her house and was having second thoughts about it) got scared and didn’t want him to stay at hers. So I advised birthday boy’s friend to drop her off at her place with internet friend, and birthday boy so she’d feel more safe. I didn’t want him staying at my girlfriend’s that night. Things calmed down immediately after they left. When friend came back, we sat around for a bit, and bitched about them. Then I instructed everyone to clean up (the house was a bit of a mess, and I’m sure my girlfriend’s parents wouldn’t appreciate it). Her and her mum had to leave early in the morning to go to another town to do a puppet show, so I didn’t want her cleaning in the morning. I realised I was acting much more alpha than I usually do. I even took my girlfriend’s rat up back to her cage when I saw that it was getting a bit stressed due to over-handling. The rat which I sometimes totally lack any sort of feelings for. I just wanted everyone to treat her house, and her with respect, I guess. And I think this mix helped. Made me seem friendly and had everyone talking, but I was commanding when I had to be. I was surprised that I was not overly-possessive with this mix. I guess the alpha-nol helped bring that down a bit from the IJ. It gave me social confidence and just generally made me feel on top of the whole situation. It was a good night, and I loved the way this mix made me feel, and had others acting towards me. One I’d definitely wear again 😃 This IJ is really something special… K-Train, put down the [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) for a bit, and give this stuff a twirl. Could really be something in there for you. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2009, 6:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/75 "2009-10-31T06:58:37Z")
> [@LeafStamp](#): > > … K-Train, put down the P83 for a bit, and give this stuff a twirl. Could really be something in there for you. ROFL, great hits Leaf! Looks like you found yourself some psuedo A314 right tharr 😃. Lol, unfortunately I’m doing some mixing and I’ll need to use my money on getting all these mixes to work properly so I’ll be unable to try out [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), unless someone gives it to me for free…😛 But don’t worry Leaf, I’ll be sure to put it on my list of things to try!🆒 ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/76 "2009-11-03T11:17:45Z")
So, no pheromoney news lately. That’s fine. I’ve been busy with exams, but they’re done now! YAY! So more time for testing now 😃 Bought some new products to celebrate. I had a big BIG juicy GC to use a bit, and only managed to end up using just over half of it. So still got some emergency funds available! Added to my collection will be: IG - This was running out, so I decided to top-up 😃 30ml TAA - 15ug/spray 30ml TAC - 15ug/spray 30ml TAF - 15ug/spray 30ml TAK - 15ug/spray 30ml TAL - 15ug/spray 30ml Meo-Est - 50ug/spray Tra la la. I’ll be doing mixes sooooon 😃 Anyway, I’ve also been getting kind of fat. I’m the heaviest I’ve ever been in my life at this stage. Last week I stepped on the scales at 82kg (180.4lb). I’m 165cm (5’5"). So I headed to the gym for the first time since way early this year. Went with some friends and picked up weights for the first time. I’m going to be working on a bit of muscle when I’m with them, and I’ll be running etc. when I’m alone. I’ve also been reading this book called “The Gabriel Method”, which is a very very good read that I recommend. He makes some very good observations on lifestyle. He is a man who dropped 103kg, so he’s been through it. I’m almost done with the book, and feel like I’ll be taking on a few of his recommendations. The visualisation, and nutrient tips seem very good. Not tooooo keen on “eating the sun”. I may start a new journal which is exclusively documenting my body change. WITH PICTURES (I know, ew, right?) Anyway, it was a good experience today. Out of the 4 of us, I was the one who could do the least. But two of them have been going for ages, and the other guy has been going alone for the last 3 months. So I am quite out of it. My arms hurt now, and I know I’ll be feeling it so much tomorrow. I’ll be going in again in a couple of days. 😃 I couldn’t bench very well. I had to makedo with just the bar :S Eventually managed to bench 5kg on either side on my third set. I also realised my right arm is MUCH stronger than my left. So I’ll need to be patient. My right arm could keep going with excercises and could possibly do heavier weights, but my left arm ends up bringing the team down. I want to be even, so I stop when my left arm gives. It’ll catch up 🙂 Anyway, that’s it from me. I’ve started work now too, so should be a good place to test. Toodles from Leaf! ---
**Author:** ![wheeledone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@wheeledone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wheeledone)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/77 "2009-11-03T22:26:46Z")
Hey, Leaf. Good luck on your journey! A few years ago, one of my good friends cut 100 lbs. in 9 months with only a change in diet and frequent gym visits. It can be done! PS. I recommend you change your masturbation arm to the left ASAP. LMAO. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 11:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350/78 "2009-11-04T11:47:08Z")
> [@wheeledone](#): > > PS. I recommend you change your masturbation arm to the left ASAP. LMAO. 😃 That would make clicking through websites easier… 😛 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/consider-your-leaf-stamped/28350.md?page=3)