# Copulin products on the Androtics site **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 21, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263 "2009-04-21T23:26:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/1 "2009-04-21T23:26:11Z")
Got a question. I know that [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) contains a large amount of androstenone and a small about female copulins. Some posts on this site described it as a “freshly f’ked badass” product. But is there anything on Androtics Direct that has just the copulins, in a slightly higher amount than IJ, and without the -none? I’m aiming for the female attention from the copulins, and planning to add the -none with TUTH. I read in another thread that 1 spray of IJ contains as much -none as 5 sprays of TUTH. That might be too much for me, since I’m 25. I think Dirty contains copulins, but I haven’t been able to find much infomration about it. So if anyone has good suggestions, post them here. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/2 "2009-04-21T23:37:32Z")
Well, Dirty won’t be available until who knows when. It’s been gone for a long time, but the only products that I know of that contain cops are the womens products. Other than that, I’m not sure. Not trying to sway you to think differently about IJ, because the best option for you is what I would want. However, as weird as it may sound two sprays of IJ may sounds like A LOT of -none (and it is) but coupled with two sprays of IO, and IH it’s not even near as harsh than TUTH alone “_for me_.” I have had some bad TUTH -none negatives when I was still starting out with TUTH, but with IJ I have not had that happen to me except this one time I added IS to a little work mix I had working for me. It worked VERY fine, and still does but for some strange reason the addition of IS I guess must have made something go out of balance or something. However, besides that one time I have not received any bad ghosting or negatives with IJ and Androstenol combos. Only thing I can think of is buying some EOW from Love Scent, or SOE for women (copulins and Androstenol mix if I’m not mistaken.) It’s for girls, but not sure what else to tell you. I’d leave the copulins at Androtics for the girls though, as they’ve been wanting and needing some for awhile. 🙂 > [@TheAttractor](#): > > Got a question. I know that Instant Jerk contains a large amount of androstenone and a small about female copulins. Some posts on this site described it as a “freshly f’ked badass” product. But is there anything on Androtics Direct that has just the copulins, in a slightly higher amount than IJ, and without the -none? I’m aiming for the female attention from the copulins, and planning to add the -none with TUTH. I read in another thread that 1 spray of IJ contains as much -none as 5 sprays of TUTH. That might be too much for me, since I’m 25. I think Dirty contains copulins, but I haven’t been able to find much infomration about it. So if anyone has good suggestions, post them here. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/3 "2009-04-21T23:44:14Z")
Unfortunately, Androtics is currently reformulating their cops, so there aren’t any other products right now that contain cops, nor is there one which only contains the stuff. The cops in [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) are probably the old formula, and the only reason likely reason that Instant Jerk is still available is because it wasn’t a very popular product. I can imagine if the current stock of Jerk runs out, it might not come back until they finish with the new copulin formula. But if treated with a bit of respect, Instant Jerk is actually very good. I was very surprised. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/4 "2009-04-21T23:46:53Z")
And with that being said, I better stock up on IJ! > [@marty](#): > > Unfortunately, Androtics is currently reformulating their cops, so there aren’t any other products right now that contain cops, nor is there one which only contains the stuff. > > The cops in Instant Jerk are probably the old formula, and the only reason likely reason that Instant Jerk is still available is because it wasn’t a very popular product. I can imagine if the current stock of Jerk runs out, it might not come back until they finish with the new copulin formula. > > But if treated with a bit of respect, Instant Jerk is actually very good. I was very surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/5 "2009-04-21T23:53:08Z")
Catlord uses 8 drops Essence of Woman in a 30 mL spray bottle full of water for a “social proof” strength mix. There’s more info on his Liquid Lust thread. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/6 "2009-04-21T23:56:28Z")
Water? Or PA? > [@Copulins on a man for Social Proof.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-on-a-man-for-social-proof/28067/17): > > I suggest using perfumer’s alcohol to dilute it. You can get it at androtics, scented or not, and elsewhere. > [@Ball.Saxbury](#): > > Catlord uses 8 drops Essence of Woman in a 30 mL spray bottle full of water for a “social proof” strength mix. There’s more info on his Liquid Lust thread. ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/7 "2009-04-22T00:12:51Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Water? Or PA? Hmm, I’m pretty sure I remember somebody saying it’s okay to use water if you don’t have PA on hand. I can’t quite remember where I heard that, though. Perfumer’s Alcohol is probably best. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/8 "2009-04-22T00:34:38Z")
Just making sure; might want to try this. I just wonder if you use water as a diluter if it’ll also dilute the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) because of the water. Perhaps washing them away? > [@Ball.Saxbury](#): > > Hmm, I’m pretty sure I remember somebody saying it’s okay to use water if you don’t have PA on hand. I can’t quite remember where I heard that, though. > > Perfumer’s Alcohol is probably best. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/9 "2009-04-22T00:38:30Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > …also dilute the pheromones because of the water. Perhaps washing them away? Spray in a different location.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/10 "2009-04-22T00:42:11Z")
Or spray the cops on first, let the water evaporate, and then spray the pheros over. You probably want to put something on top of the cops, since they really can smell bad, even diluted way down. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/11 "2009-04-22T00:45:06Z")
“Catlord uses 8 drops Essence of Woman in a 30 mL spray bottle full of water for a “social proof” strength mix. There’s more info on his Liquid Lust thread.” …That is not his refined solution mix is it? ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/12 "2009-04-22T00:47:27Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > “Catlord uses 8 drops Essence of Woman in a 30 mL spray bottle full of water for a “social proof” strength mix. There’s more info on his Liquid Lust thread.” > > …That is not his refined solution mix is it? Refined solution mix? Um, I’m not quite sure what you mean by that. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/13 "2009-04-22T00:54:15Z")
I do not think he still recommends 8 drops per 20ml ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/14 "2009-04-22T01:20:04Z")
> [@djandarial](#): > > I do not think he still recommends 8 drops per 20ml I wouldn’t know, I’m sorry. I’m just pulling info off of the Liquid Lust thread. That was three years ago, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s changed since then. ---
**Author:** ![dapg01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b3f665/32.png) [@dapg01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dapg01)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/15 "2009-04-22T01:32:56Z")
I posted a thread about copulins for social proof a few days ago. In it, Catlord answered me that the amount he recommended was 2-3 drops of EOW in a 30ml bottle of perfumer’s alcohol. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/16 "2009-04-22T04:58:37Z")
Can you say butt cheese? He, he. > [@Ball.Saxbury](#): > > Or spray the cops on first, let the water evaporate, and then spray the pheros over. You probably want to put something on top of the cops, since they really can smell bad, even diluted way down. ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/17 "2009-04-22T05:17:42Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Can you say butt cheese? He, he. Dangerously cheesy. ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/18 "2009-04-22T05:35:00Z")
you know, i hear alot of guys never go through a bottle of EoW by themselves (thank god,LOL) maybe you guys can all split a bottle? decant? little vials? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/19 "2009-04-22T05:36:23Z")
Fortunately, at 2-3 drops of EOW in 30 mL of perfumer’s alcohol, which is what Catlord uses for social proof strength cops nowadays, the EOW is so faint as to be entirely subliminal and consciously undetectable. _ahem._ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2009, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263/20 "2009-04-22T05:51:17Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Fortunately, at 2-3 drops of EOW in 30 mL of perfumer’s alcohol, which is what Catlord uses for social proof strength cops nowadays, the EOW is so faint as to be entirely subliminal and consciously undetectable. _ahem._ 🙂 Thanks for clarifying that, Catlord! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulin-products-on-the-androtics-site/28263.md?page=2)