# Copulins from Androtics?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [November 25, 2005, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57 "2005-11-25T23:45:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2005, 11:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/21 "2005-12-16T11:16:36Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Hehehe. 🙂 Well, I was talking to Aurelie, and she’s a woman.

i know, just having fun. 😃

> [@MHarris](#):
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> I think the idea is probably more pleasing to men, depending upon from whom the scent emmanates, of course.

i live on a planet full of MILF’s and models, therefore…🙄

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/22 "2005-12-27T20:40:00Z")

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This is a decidely male discussion of female copulins, so I’m moving this over to the male forum. 🙂

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2005, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/23 "2005-12-28T18:14:56Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> Some of the rich men I know have tried “playing it poor” in order to find love.
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> It doesn’t necessarily work out well, depending on how serious they are about it.

Interesting… what kind of bad things happened?

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2005, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/24 "2005-12-28T18:19:07Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> They’re useful for men, too.
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> They’re simple fragrance components that mimic vaginal odors. We have some, but haven’t necessarily made great strides with them or anything. I outsource the formulation since some of the components are quite noxious in quantity.

I suppose there must be a variety of such compounds. Do you see much variation in their impact on people depending on the component?

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**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2005, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/25 "2005-12-28T18:42:33Z")

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i ordered a copulin product last week from another site since i couldn’t get it here, my express delivery must have been bogged down due to the holidays since i haven’t received it yet. i’ll use it for myself sometimes since i’ve heard it has testosterone boosting potential, and i’ll also try it in situations where i’m dealing with the occassional “upturned noses”

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/26 "2005-12-28T18:44:52Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> Interesting… what kind of bad things happened?

Well, there’s this one that’s particularly keen to doing everything free, so he appears poor. He’s overly serious about it.

He’s using Craig’s list ([craigslist.org](http://craigslist.org)) a lot, for example, and for the most part meets pyschos and creeps. He gets depressed a lot at the quality of people there.

Hey, if I ever _browse_ Craig’s list personals I start getting depressed. I don’t have to meet these people to get freaked out and start losing my faith in humanity!

He also lives in a ratty little hovel in a dangerous part of town, in complete contrast to his previous residence. I know there are people who make minimum wage who live better than he does.

I think you can “play poor” lightly, but if you’re completely serious about it… if you actually act like someone you’re not… throwing up impediments to yourself, like you had the income of a church mouse, there will be some serious issues. You’re locking yourselves out of opportunities.

I know, I for one, particuralry like women who can fend for themselves. Women who’ll want me, not need me. They’re usually not found where this particular friend is looking. He’s a productive person who’s acting poor and finding people of the like.

Usually the self made poor don’t have the best habits. Unless it’s a temporary situation for them (or they’re young and inexperienced), they’re often poor in ways that extend beyond the monetary. There’s usually a dark halo of nonproductivity. Whereas, self made people (meaning at minimum, gainfully employed - nothing fancy, per se), tend to be generative in many ways. Especially women who succeed despite living in a man’s world. (Sweden exempted, where it is a woman’s world)

Also, convincingly acting like someone you’re not is never the way to find love. Eventually, you will have to be yourself. Again, playing lightly may be OK. But the more real this alternate reality becomes, the more automatically disengenuine you’re being. The incongruousness cracks through.

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/27 "2005-12-28T18:57:44Z")

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> [@PheroQuirk](#):
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> I suppose there must be a variety of such compounds. Do you see much variation in their impact on people depending on the component?

We’re slowly but surely cataloging the psychological effects of many compounds that extend beyond typical pheromones, yes.

However, since several scientists have already done the “dirty work” of figuring out the proportions of the the fragrance compounds used to mimic copulins, no, I haven’t experimented much with variations of these in particular yet.

When working out a sequence like that, the number of variations would indeed be huge. If I just worked out just 10 different concentrations of each component of the classical copulin formula, 490 batches would need to be made up and compared.

I think modern perfumers organs are electronic and could be better used to “compose” such sequences in small quantity on the fly. It’d be better to outsource that work to them.

Most of my work has been testing the psychological effects of compounds in isolation, not in varying sequence (with the exception of some key pheromone components otherwise I never would’ve been able to design formulas like A314). Even in isolation, it’s an enormous task in and of itself. An important precursor to testing sequences and multiple concentrations.

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**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/28 "2005-12-28T19:25:48Z")

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> [@MHarris](#):
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> I think you can “play poor” lightly, but if you’re completely serious about it… if you actually act like someone you’re not… throwing up impediments to yourself, like you had the income of a church mouse, there will be some serious issues. You’re locking yourselves out of opportunities.

Yes, I very much agree with that. I suppose when it comes to display, disexpectation/doing the opposite of what people expect you to do can be fun and work for one. Drive an unremarkable, even beaten-up car (because so many can afford a nice one and it can be a good filter to get rid of people who are quick to size you up based on the superficial) but then save time when you travel by taking the helicopter.

> [@MHarris](#):
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> I know, I for one, particuralry like women who can fend for themselves. Women who’ll want me, not need me.

Many very good-looking women seem not to do this because they often don’t have to. It’s wonderful when you find one that can though.

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**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2005, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/29 "2005-12-29T23:56:52Z")

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my copulin product finally arrived today and i remember now why i hate those tiny bottles with tiny roll ons. i kept tipping the bottle trying to get  
the roller wet and decided to give this thing its first try right under my nose. rolled a few times and didn’t feel like much was applied so i put the cap back on and went about my business.

probably ten or twenty minutes later i was washing my hands and looked into the mirror and immediately noticed that i had a glazed upper lip. 😃

no idea whether it helped boost my t levels but i prefer the natural method of lip glazing over the roll on bottle.😃

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**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2005, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-from-androtics/57/30 "2005-12-30T06:49:35Z")

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> [@josef](#):
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> my copulin product finally arrived today and i remember now why i hate those tiny bottles with tiny roll ons. i kept tipping the bottle trying to get  
> the roller wet and decided to give this thing its first try right under my nose. rolled a few times and didn’t feel like much was applied so i put the cap back on and went about my business.
> 
> probably ten or twenty minutes later i was washing my hands and looked into the mirror and immediately noticed that i had a glazed upper lip. 😃
> 
> no idea whether it helped boost my t levels but i prefer the natural method of lip glazing over the roll on bottle.😃

Heh. 🙂

There’s a much more complex and enriching interaction in the real thing.

Your post reminds me the old movie references to “the future”, where everyone eats their food in pills. Sure, you can get a meal in a pill, but it’s not as nourishing as “the real thing”. It’s less broad spectrum.

It’s like sunlight vs. incandescent or flourescent; the latter mimics a few elements but not everything.

Copulins will never replace the soft feel of… oh, nevermind.

I have to remind myself not to be too human on the forums. It’s “not appropriate”. 😃

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