# Copulins make me cocky

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 18, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430 "2006-06-18T21:19:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/1 "2006-06-18T21:19:18Z")

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I’ve been experimenting with copulins lately to get a feel for how they work. Right now I’m testing EW dilluted in egyptian musk at a 25:1 ratio. I’ll usually apply a single drop from an old NPA bottle. At any rate I hadn’t noticed any increased feelings of arousal on my part, but I have noticed that it makes me more upbeat. I certainly feel more cocky and in your face while wearing the cops, which is a good thing in some ways, not so much in others. Certain mones have a way of making you feel more confident (a314, TAA, none), but usually in a more controlled, subdued manner. Perhaps its a result of increased t-levels?

I haven’t noticed had any really great hits yet, but on Friday while I was at the mall shopping for my dad, I was getting quite a lot of DIHL. I was wearing one drop of my copulin dilution, 3 sprays IH, 1 drop NPA, 2 drops A314 mutant 3 sprays of IS. I was thinking of replacing some of the mones with IFM and EST, but thought it might be too “womanly” of a mix. What do you guys think?

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**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2006, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/2 "2006-06-18T22:43:04Z")

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i’m waiting patiently for any observable/reportable feedback good or bad from using copulins. i’ve tried straight copulins from a small roll on bottle and after several weeks of having nothing to report along with an increasing irritation that comes from using that roll on bottle, i emptied approx 2.5ml of the copulins from that bottle into another empty one and added 10 drops each of some leftover NPA and 10 drops of A1.

after trying various amounts between 1 and 5 drops of this new mix and having nothing to report, i will probably get obnoxious with the rest and wear it all at once and either guarantee some feedback or assume that copulins aren’t for me.

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**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/3 "2006-06-19T02:16:47Z")

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Copulins are a bit of a mystery for me 😕 I’ve been trying to figure out a way to incorporate them into my mixes to add an extra element of intensity, but the results so far have been inconclusive. I’ve been using LAM exclusively, and I’ve been wondering exactly how much copulins are in LAM in comparison to everyone else’s ratios with EW. I don’t really smell anything too out of the ordinary with LAM since it has a light ylang ylang scent, so either I’m unable to smell copulins, or the cover scent really does its job well. Does anyone happen to know the concentration of copulins in LAM, or have any success with it?

I was about to stop using copulins since I didn’t want to waste any more reagents trying to figure them out, and then I happened to have a massive hit out of the blue. I was on a train wearing a 6% LAM mix, and it got really crowded and I ended up right behind a woman standing next to the door. I had reached over the handle bar that she was holding, so basically she was within 6 inches of my application points. There was some minor signs of arousal such as hair flipping and fidgeting, but nothing significant for a while. Then about 5 minutes of exposure, she suddenly arches her back all the way back and tilts her head straight up with her mouth open for 6-7 seconds, almost as if she climaxed and was having an orgasm 😮

Needless to say, I decided to restore funding into my copulin research program 😉

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 2:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/4 "2006-06-19T02:33:51Z")

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Sigma, I think based on my experience, that you’re sorely overdosing on the copulins. I tested cops by itself for a bit, and it only made me horny. Have you tried it by itself yet?

The mix you’re wearing might be sending out a confusing subconscious signal - “I’m a real man, AND a real woman!” The trick seems to be to smell like a man, and have a hint of woman.

Dancing Joker, try LAM with A314 and see what happens. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/5 "2006-06-19T02:38:25Z")

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I just realized something and remembered something else that I was thinking about today regarding copulins.

1. The first thing is that I remember reading somewhere that copulins were long chained, large fatty acid molecules that were secreted by a women during arousal. Is it possible that because these molecules are perhaps much larger than regular mone molecules such as none, nol, A1 or rone, that they don’t carry very far and therefore are really only effective at really close ranges or in places with very strong air currents?

2. I was pondering the mechanism behind how copulins work exactly, and why they also seem to affect women as seen by the mixes that Examine and Catlord17 have used to great effect. My theory is that, similar to the way that women who spend a lot of time together would synchronize their periods because of hormone messages being broadcast between each other, women also react when they detect copulins by reaching a state they would need to achieve in order to release copulins, namely a state of arousal. This probably has something to do with the hardwired instincts in women when finding a mate was more primal and urgent. If a woman detected that another woman had found a suitable mate because she was becoming aroused, then her own reaction would be to become aroused herself and seek out this suitable mate, perhaps to take for her own. I remember reading on some of the seduction websites that women want to seek men who demonstrate high value. Just as women are more attracted to men who are with other women versus solitary men because they must have some value otherwise the women wouldn’t be with them, so perhaps this carries further with the case of copulins in that if one woman finds some man attractive and is aroused, then he might be worth going after and therefore other women would start releasing their own copulins to see what the situation is.

Anyway, it’s just a theory but it seems to make a lot of sense as to why copulins, which are designed to attract men, also seem to attract women. Such is the mystery of life! 😮 😕 😉

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/6 "2006-06-19T02:41:58Z")

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> [@](#):
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> she suddenly arches her back all the way back and tilts her head straight up with her mouth open for 6-7 seconds, almost as if she climaxed and was having an orgasm 😮

oh see you are mis-interpreting that! i do that all the time… when im miffed, when im hungry, when im doing my taxes… see, she may have been wondering if she left the coffee pot on… should have asked her.

> [@](#):
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> The mix you’re wearing might be sending out a confusing subconscious signal - “I’m a real man, AND a real woman!” The trick seems to be to smell like a man, and have a hint of woman.

has anyone done research on the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) that someone who is taking hormones to be more the opposite gender give off??? just wondering…

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**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/7 "2006-06-19T02:45:05Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> oh see you are mis-interpreting that! i do that all the time… when im miffed, when im hungry, when im doing my taxes… see, she may have been wondering if she left the coffee pot on… should have asked her.
> 
> has anyone done research on the pheromones that someone who is taking hormones to be more the opposite gender give off??? just wondering…

Lor, I can’t tell if you’re joking about that or not LOL 😉

Either that, or you are an orgasmatic kind of woman! 😮

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/8 "2006-06-19T02:54:57Z")

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> [@Dancing\_Joker](#):
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> Lor, I can’t tell if you’re joking about that or not LOL 😉
> 
> Either that, or you are an orgasmatic kind of woman! 😮

you mean all women dont orgasm on the train ???

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> if one woman finds some man attractive and is aroused, then he might be worth going after and therefore other women would start releasing their own copulins to see what the situation is.

yeahhhh,baby! constant state of arousal. our version of none. i LIKE it.

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**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/9 "2006-06-19T02:59:05Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> you mean all women dont orgasm on the train ???
> 
> yeahhhh,baby! constant state of arousal. our version of none. i LIKE it.

Well, I’ve been trying, but I’ve only been able to get it to 50% so far … I’m working on it! 😉

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/10 "2006-06-19T03:36:56Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> Sigma, I think based on my experience, that you’re sorely overdosing on the copulins. I tested cops by itself for a bit, and it only made me horny. Have you tried it by itself yet?
> 
> The mix you’re wearing might be sending out a confusing subconscious signal - “I’m a real man, AND a real woman!” The trick seems to be to smell like a man, and have a hint of woman.

Well given the differences in the dispersal amounts between a spray from an Androtics bottle and a drop from an NPA bottle, I’m really not applying any more EW than you are.

Considering that an androtics bottle dispenses roughly 200 sprays per ounce, at 8 drops per ounce you’re looking at .04 drops of EW per spray with your mix. (8/200 = .04)

My dilution is 2 drops of EW to 50 Drops Egyptian Musk. So broken down into drops you’re looking at .04 drops EW per drop. (2/50 = .04)

Where it gets inconsistent though is the difference between the drops dispensed by the LS dropper (which I used to make the dilution) and the NPA dropper (which I used to apply the dilution). A drop from an NPA bottle is about twice as large as a drop using the LS dropper (give or take a bit).

So the two sprays in your mixes, contains roughly as much EW as one drop in mine.

The only time I really tried cops alone was when I got a lot of it on my hands while mixing the dilution. I went to the gym right afterwards to see what the effects would be on my weight-lifting, but I didn’t notice anything different. I will say that I caught myself shamelessly checking out every piece of ass worth looking at in the gym - but there wasn’t really a feeling of arousal.

Today I slapped on 3 sprays IFM+1 drop copulin dilution+1 drop NPA+2 sprays IH and after going to the mall for a bit to pick up something I went straight to evening mass. As horrible as it sounds, I was getting DIHL all over the place during mass. There was one girl in particular that I kept bumping into (once as she walked in, once when she walked by for communion, and once while I was walking out of church) and each time we caught ourselves in staredowns.

It seems to be working well for me so far, I just need to find some good testing opportunities.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 5:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/11 "2006-06-19T05:26:09Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> Well given the differences in the dispersal amounts between a spray from an Androtics bottle and a drop from an NPA bottle, I’m really not applying any more EW than you are.
> 
> Considering that an androtics bottle dispenses roughly 200 sprays per ounce, at 8 drops per ounce you’re looking at .04 drops of EW per spray with your mix. (8/200 = .04)
> 
> My dilution is 2 drops of EW to 50 Drops Egyptian Musk. So broken down into drops you’re looking at .04 drops EW per drop. (2/50 = .04)
> 
> Where it gets inconsistent though is the difference between the drops dispensed by the LS dropper (which I used to make the dilution) and the NPA dropper (which I used to apply the dilution). A drop from an NPA bottle is about twice as large as a drop using the LS dropper (give or take a bit).
> 
> So the two sprays in your mixes, contains roughly as much EW as one drop in mine.
> 
> The only time I really tried cops alone was when I got a lot of it on my hands while mixing the dilution. I went to the gym right afterwards to see what the effects would be on my weight-lifting, but I didn’t notice anything different. I will say that I caught myself shamelessly checking out every piece of ass worth looking at in the gym - but there wasn’t really a feeling of arousal.
> 
> Today I slapped on 3 sprays IFM+1 drop copulin dilution+1 drop NPA+2 sprays IH and after going to the mall for a bit to pick up something I went straight to evening mass. As horrible as it sounds, I was getting DIHL all over the place during mass. There was one girl in particular that I kept bumping into (once as she walked in, once when she walked by for communion, and once while I was walking out of church) and each time we caught ourselves in staredowns.
> 
> It seems to be working well for me so far, I just need to find some good testing opportunities.

There are 200 sprays per ounce… 8 drops per ounce comes to 8/200 = 0.04 drops per spray. If we say 2 drops into 50, we get 0.04 drops _per drop._ But the two are not the same… a drop is not equal to a spray.

To determine how many drops there are in an ounce, we can work backwards from converting drops of copulins to drops per spray. If 8 drops is 0.04 drops per spray per ounce, and there are 200 sprays per ounce, then how many drops are there per ounce?

If I am thinking correctly, we can say that 1/0.04 = X/8 = 1/200 ounce in drops. This works out to… about 5,000 drops per ounce.

Now… if you have 2 into 50 drops and I have 8 into 5000 drops, I suspect the ratios of amount are slightly different. Then again, I always sucked at math, so it’s entirely possible I’ve made an error. But if I’m right, your mix is actually 8 into 200 drops, which makes it 20 times stronger than mine!

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 6:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/12 "2006-06-19T06:30:23Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> There are 200 sprays per ounce… 8 drops per ounce comes to 8/200 = 0.04 drops per spray. If we say 2 drops into 50, we get 0.04 drops _per drop._ But the two are not the same… a drop is not equal to a spray.
> 
> To determine how many drops there are in an ounce, we can work backwards from converting drops of copulins to drops per spray. If 8 drops is 0.04 drops per spray per ounce, and there are 200 sprays per ounce, then how many drops are there per ounce?
> 
> If I am thinking correctly, we can say that 1/0.04 = X/8 = 1/200 ounce in drops. This works out to… about 5,000 drops per ounce.
> 
> Now… if you have 2 into 50 drops and I have 8 into 5000 drops, I suspect the ratios of amount are slightly different. Then again, I always sucked at math, so it’s entirely possible I’ve made an error. But if I’m right, your mix is actually 8 into 200 drops, which makes it 20 times stronger than mine!

I don’t see where you got 5,000 from that

depending on where you look, there are 400-600 drops per ounce.

In which case my mix would be 2 times more concentrated per drop, not 20… which makes sense..your mix is diluted to a roughly 50:1 ratio, mine a straight 25:1.

At any rate it really doesn’t matter how many drops are in the bottle, because you aren’t dispensing drops…you’re dispensing sprays. You’re right, a drop and a spray aren’t the same…thats the whole point actually. A spray from an androtics spray head contains much, much more fluid. What matters is the amount of copulins released per application.

Ok to make things simple…

**Your dilution:**

8/200

8 drops of copulins divided into 200 sprays

_simplify the fraction by dividing by 8_

8/200 = 1/25

1/25 = .04 drops of copulins per spray

**My dilution:**

2/50 (actually 2/52 but for the sake of keeping things simple)

2 drops of copulins divided into 50 drops

_simplify the fraction by dividing by 2_

2/50 = 1/25

1/25 = .04 drops of copulins released per drop

8/200 = 4/100 = 2/50 = 1/25

by some weird stroke of coincidence, 1 spray of your dillution contains the same amount of copulins as 1 drop of mine.

Again I’m using NPA droppers though, which drop about twice as much as a regular dropper. So one drop dispensed from an NPA bottle, contains roughly the same amount of copulins as 2 regular drops, and 2 sprays

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/13 "2006-06-19T07:15:43Z")

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> [@sigma](#):
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> I don’t see where you got 5,000 from that
> 
> depending on where you look, there are 400-600 drops per ounce.
> 
> In which case my mix would be 2 times more concentrated per drop, not 20… which makes sense..your mix is diluted to a roughly 50:1 ratio, mine a straight 25:1.
> 
> At any rate it really doesn’t matter how many drops are in the bottle, because you aren’t dispensing drops…you’re dispensing sprays. You’re right, a drop and a spray aren’t the same…thats the whole point actually. A spray from an androtics spray head contains much, much more fluid. What matters is the amount of copulins released per application.
> 
> Ok to make things simple…
> 
> **Your dilution:**
> 
> 8/200
> 
> 8 drops of copulins divided into 200 sprays
> 
> _simplify the fraction by dividing by 8_
> 
> 8/200 = 1/25
> 
> 1/25 = .04 drops of copulins per spray
> 
> **My dilution:**
> 
> 2/50 (actually 2/52 but for the sake of keeping things simple)
> 
> 2 drops of copulins divided into 50 drops
> 
> _simplify the fraction by dividing by 2_
> 
> 2/50 = 1/25
> 
> 1/25 = .04 drops of copulins released per drop
> 
> 8/200 = 4/100 = 2/50 = 1/25
> 
> by some weird stroke of coincidence, 1 spray of your dillution contains the same amount of copulins as 1 drop of mine.
> 
> Again I’m using NPA droppers though, which drop about twice as much as a regular dropper. So one drop dispensed from an NPA bottle, contains roughly the same amount of copulins as 2 regular drops, and 2 sprays

My math is probably off, but even by what you say, every 25 sprays of my dilution = 1 drop of EW, whereas every 25 drops of yours = 1 drop of EW. You said that a drop and a spray are not the same volume. If a spray is a greater volume, then mine must be weaker. One spray of mine has the same amount of copulins as one drop of yours, but my spray has a greater volume than your drop, in all likelyhood.

Let’s presume, for the sake of my pride, that I made a typo and typed 5,000 instead of 500. (Not what happened, but let’s pretend. 🙂 ) If there are about 500 drops per ounce, whch does seem reasonable, mine would be 8/500 or 0.016 drops EW per drop, to your 0.02. This would make your dilution 20% stronger than mine, which we can pretend is where I came up with the 20 in 20 times stronger. lol

That sound like better math?

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**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 7:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/14 "2006-06-19T07:30:29Z")

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> [@catlord17](#):
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> My math is probably off, but even by what you say, every 25 sprays of my dilution = 1 drop of EW, whereas every 25 drops of yours = 1 drop of EW. You said that a drop and a spray are not the same volume. If a spray is a greater volume, then mine must be weaker. One spray of mine has the same amount of copulins as one drop of yours, but my spray has a greater volume than your drop, in all likelyhood.
> 
> Let’s presume, for the sake of my pride, that I made a typo and typed 5,000 instead of 500. (Not what happened, but let’s pretend. 🙂 ) If there are about 500 drops per ounce, whch does seem reasonable, mine would be 8/500 or 0.016 drops EW per drop, to your 0.02. This would make your dilution 20% stronger than mine, which we can pretend is where I came up with the 20 in 20 times stronger. lol
> 
> That sound like better math?

lol done deal.

I hadn’t realized this till I was forced to re-think the calculations myself. In fact after going through all that I just realized that I got the ratios in your holy grail mix all wrong. :o I didn’t account for the difference in concentration with the spray products.

I’d remake it, but the smell of pheromones in my room is already giving my a headache.

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**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 8:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/15 "2006-06-19T08:05:52Z")

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I still have no idea how guys even GET results using copulins, given just HOW strong the results we ladies get when using them on men.

I don’t ever use pheromones aimed at males attracting females, but perhaps I’ll experiment at some point. I get the results I want from all the products I use, which are all female-orientated though - be it for sexual hits, business hits, or when I wish people to be more communicative or relaxed.

I guess some things defy logic, but being a very logical woman, it really does NOT make sense to me at all - copulins working on men when they use them on females, that is.

In any case, the testosterone spike “The Man” gets when I use copulins, is err..HUGE! 🙂

Ail 🙂

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 8:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/16 "2006-06-19T08:46:32Z")

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Copulins signal things to the brains of both sexes, Ail, and the brains of people of different sexual orientations (as well as the subconscious minds) process these inputs differently. Here is how I understand it:

To a hetero man, copulins signal a female in heat nearby. This results in a testosterone surge, which causes various sexual responses. But if he gets this signal from a man, his response changes to a sort of admiration - “This guy has been getting laid, I admire that.”

To a hetero woman, it signals another woman in heat. If she is not currently involved with a man, and is herself in heat, she may respond with a competitive attitude. This would result in disliking or actively competing with a woman who gives off this signal, or actively pursuing a man who has been thusly “marked” by some other female. But a hetero woman who IS involved, who smells copulins on a man, will tend to respond with avoidance because she does not want to intrude on another woman’s “territory”, just as she does not want her “territory” intruded on. (Yes, women scent mark the men they have sex with by the very act of copulation, and thus claim ownership of him to other females.)

Bisexual men respond as heterosexual men.

Bisexual and gay women will respond with arousal because they smell sex, and this causes a sort of entrainment, just as does the sight or sound of sexual activity. Gay women may respond with the territorialattitudes that hetero women have towards scent-marked men, if they smell it on another woman. They will tend to ignore scent-marked men.

Gay men respond with neutral or avoidant behavior because their interests have nothing to do with females.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/17 "2006-06-19T15:15:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Copulins signal things to the brains of both sexes, Ail, and the brains of people of different sexual orientations (as well as the subconscious minds) process these inputs differently.

im not sure that im actually thinking anything in particular when im smelling copulins, but im turned on by anyone wearing them. not wearing exessively. i dont get a feeling of competitiveness ( just "woo hoo, sex " comes to mind).

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/18 "2006-06-20T01:24:36Z")

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theres no way id wear that stuff alone.

works well with none tho.

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**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/19 "2006-06-20T01:35:51Z")

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> [@Ail](#):
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> In any case, the testosterone spike “The Man” gets when I use copulins, is err..HUGE! 🙂
> 
> Ail 🙂

social proof. i like to call it “the popular effect”

guys that are taken seem more attractive than loners (the popular guy is doing something right, and the loner is doing something wrong) . the popular guys that all the ladies want…most likely have numbers stacked under their belt. you’d be amazed how some girls could careless. the fact that he’s talked about in the ladies room, makes him a little more attractive.

some girls tend to like guys that know how to treat a lady. however, you dont think if he knows how to treat a lady, he hasnt been with many? one can assume an attractive man like brad pitt has been with TONS of women. that in itself tells you women dont really care how many girls a guy has been with.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2006, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-me-cocky/430/20 "2006-06-20T01:53:34Z")

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> [@examine](#):
>
> social proof. i like to call it “the popular effect”
> 
> guys that are taken seem more attractive than loners (the popular guy is doing something right, and the loner is doing something wrong) . the popular guys that all the ladies want…most likely have numbers stacked under their belt. you’d be amazed how some girls could careless. the fact that he’s talked about in the ladies room, makes him a little more attractive.
> 
> some girls tend to like guys that know how to treat a lady. however, you dont think if he knows how to treat a lady, he hasnt been with many? one can assume an attractive man like brad pitt has been with TONS of women. that in itself tells you women dont really care how many girls a guy has been with.

maybe what we say and how we feel are incongruent, but every girl ive talked to claims to be turned off by the womanizer… because they come across as someone who would do anyone. less of “i can have anyone” and more of an “ive been with alot and i dont care who”. if that makes sense.

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