# copulins make women competeious

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**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 15, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053 "2007-02-15T18:13:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![lovinthang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@lovinthang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lovinthang)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/1 "2007-02-15T18:13:18Z")

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Hello,

I just curious to know is just me or do copulins make other women competeious with other women? inotice women get short with me or give me funny looks 🙄 . And i also notice yesterday whle my boyfriend and i were out to dinner. that this couple was sitting across from us the man just kept looking at me then when he notice i see him staring he hurry up and turns away.

well i’m going to keep trying my potion and see what happens.

has any one else notice such things?

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/2 "2007-02-15T18:26:39Z")

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> [@lovinthang](#):
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> Hello,
> 
> I just curious to know is just me or do copulins make other women competeious with other women? inotice women get short with me or give me funny looks 🙄 . And i also notice yesterday whle my boyfriend and i were out to dinner. that this couple was sitting across from us the man just kept looking at me then when he notice i see him staring he hurry up and turns away.
> 
> well i’m going to keep trying my potion and see what happens.
> 
> has any one else notice such things?

i cant believe you mentioned this, i was just having this very conversation last night.  
actually, i find TAL makes other women catty, the cops are 50-50… sometimes i actually notice the opposite, that women get girly too around cops or maybe thats just a “what do you have i dont?” thing going on…  
whats in your potion 😕

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**Author:** ![lovinthang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@lovinthang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lovinthang)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/3 "2007-02-15T19:20:54Z")

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I have Eow , Estratetraenol, beta androstenol, and estradiol. my purfume consist of pure essential oils jasmine absolute, sandalewood, rose absolute,ylang ylang, rosewood, vanilla and musk ketone. and ethanol . i also have the oil version without ethanol in it.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/4 "2007-02-16T00:13:45Z")

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> [@lovinthang](#):
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> I have Eow , Estratetraenol, beta androstenol, and estradiol. my purfume consist of pure essential oils jasmine absolute, sandalewood, rose absolute,ylang ylang, rosewood, vanilla and musk ketone. and ethanol . i also have the oil version without ethanol in it.

do you have any androtics mixes?

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**Author:** ![lovinthang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@lovinthang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lovinthang)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/5 "2007-02-16T00:40:58Z")

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no i never ordered from them before but i will soon. i mostly like to deal with raw [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in my mixes

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/6 "2007-02-16T00:58:26Z")

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i was like that too last year, when i was a part of other forums.  
i was one picky b\*\*\*\*!  
as a mixer myself, i thought it doesnt get done right if you dont do it yourself,for the most part i was right!  
i LOVE the feeling of being a mad scientist, customising to my personality and my personal moods at all times, and then i came here.  
i still mix at home, but what i naturally gravitated to was using little atomisors of androtics stuff due to the portability of it all.  
who can be a mad scientist on the road?  
what i usually do is have on hand both [instant sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) (in 2 diff flavors no less!) and IH IO CTTM SHINE and Ammo (dont ask) and i mix and match the mixes while i am running errands.  
your lucky that you can commit to a mix and leave the house.  
as an aquarian (LOL) i need complete spontaneity and freedom at all times or i wilt. WILT i tell you!😃

id love to know what ratios have been working for you with those pheromones, and do you notice a difference being aromatheraputic with pheromones vs say a perfume?

have you gotten strong reactions from others or is it mostly subtle with your potion?

have you shared it with friends?

does anyone know you use pheromones?

🙂

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**Author:** ![HeinzHummer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/heinzhummer/32/941_2.png) [@HeinzHummer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HeinzHummer)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/7 "2007-02-16T04:13:01Z")

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Unrelated, but…  
DANG! Lor is smokin’ hot…  
HH 😃

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**Author:** ![lovinthang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@lovinthang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lovinthang)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/8 "2007-02-16T13:39:55Z")

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Well Lor,  
I use a whole bottle of ew and 500mgs of raw estratetraenol, 50mls of estradiol, 1gram of estratetrenone, and 15 mgs of dhea. to 1 liter bottle of perfume( homemade with the essential oils i listed above. and my boyfriend is all over me.

Now with ew i had it a little to spoiled so i added more perfume to lessen the scent .

but ew should have a **little** tart scent to minic the real smell of a woman vagina. that’s the purpose of ew. if it does’nt have a slight smell then to me it’s defeting the purpose.

what’s your take on that?

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**Author:** ![chirimoya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chirimoya/32/1538_2.png) [@chirimoya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chirimoya)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/9 "2007-02-16T22:40:43Z")

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where do you get raw pheromones and how did you get started mixing (directed at anyone who wants to answer)

reading this thread i’m like 😮 + 🙄 (getting ideas) + 🆒

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/10 "2007-02-17T01:31:37Z")

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> [@lovinthang](#):
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> Well Lor,  
> I use a whole bottle of Essence of Woman and 500mgs of raw estratetraenol, 50mls of estradiol, 1gram of estratetrenone, and 15 mgs of dhea. to 1 liter bottle of perfume( homemade with the essential oils i listed above. and my boyfriend is all over me.
> 
> Now with Essence of Woman i had it a little to spoiled so i added more perfume to lessen the scent .
> 
> but Essence of Woman should have a **little** tart scent to minic the real smell of a woman vagina. that’s the purpose of Essence of Woman. if it does’nt have a slight smell then to me it’s defeting the purpose.
> 
> what’s your take on that?

well, be reminded its _only_ my take and so take with a grain of salt but i have tried SoE for women, and there are copulins in that and you would _never know it_.  
i actually dont believe it has to have scent to work, but since i have had success with EW i dont mind that its strong.

i have actually tried using my own ( i dont CARE what other people think,LOL) and if there was a noticable scent to that, i would not have been comfortable doing it.  
i think its subtle, i think you dont have to be able to smell it, and i think if you do infact smell it,its still ok because its not a foul scent (well _pouring_ EW on strong _with no helpers_ i can see someone calling it foul)

let us know what your findings are, your mix sounds very Winnefred Cutler, did she inspire you?  
im sure your mix has inspired others! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/11 "2007-02-17T01:57:15Z")

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> [@chirimoya](#):
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> where do you get raw pheromones and how did you get started mixing (directed at anyone who wants to answer)
> 
> reading this thread i’m like 😮 + 🙄 (getting ideas) + 🆒

when you go to the smartmones store, they offer bottles of only pheromones individually, not in a mix. that is considered raw pheromones (although you can find them dry, in different bases,ect).  
my advice is to stick with these offered _only_ because we know that the products here have been consistant.  
the strength is consistant  
the quality is consistant  
the doses are consistant

now you can find them other places and in different mediums,  
let me know what you decide and if you find anything good!  
im reluctant to experiment on quality atleast until funds recupe 🙄

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**Author:** ![The\_Dutchess](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_dutchess/32/1279_2.png) [@The\_Dutchess](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Dutchess)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 5:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/12 "2007-02-17T05:16:57Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> i have actually tried using my own ( i dont CARE what other people think,LOL) and if there was a noticable scent to that, i would not have been comfortable doing it.

Actually I’ve read this is a trick that women have used for centuries. It is said that Cleopatra herself did so regularly. If I’m not mistaken it is a trick that is not uncommon even today in some European countries. Considering it’s history, even among the nobility, it’s nothing to feel funny about. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lovinthang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@lovinthang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lovinthang)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/13 "2007-02-17T12:06:23Z")

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Lor, I can only partly say yes to mrs. cutler info because i don’t know what she puts in her cosmetic additive. But to me it more like the body goes thru stages in producing sexual secretions as a magnitisum to turn the opposite sex on.

And to date scientist have found 25 diffrent [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and a few of them are actually sex pheromones. But they are tight lipped about which ones they are and it was also said that it would only be marketed as some sort of sex drug for people with low sex drives.

I think i got an ideal of which ones they are. But i have to distiguish which ones are male and which ones are female. mind you that male and female both have the same hormones and pheromones present in the body but males may have more of other pheromones / hormones. and vice versa for females.

But i need to know which ones dominate females the most. and which ones dominate males the most. But i do know it’s not androstenol, androstenone, or androsterone. as these are the later developed pheromones that are on the skin as such after they have gone thru the last phase of process from inside the body.

like i said i belive it is a process the body goes thru to get these pheromones. But after i get thru with the experiment i will know which ones are which.

any feed back is appreciated.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/14 "2007-02-17T14:09:05Z")

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nice lovinthang, i dig where this is going.

i have a little bit of a different theory, because something about men wearing 'rone around me affects me enough that its sexual… not talking about 'none mind you.

agreed there are many more pheromones and that more experimentation needs to be done with the lesser knowns…i believe thats what they are trying to do HERE, which is what turned me on to androtics to begin with.  
this is why we need _more_ people here willing to play with the putatives, and so far the panel has rocked with them.

my theory though is that even when we use 'none - 'rone - or anol , we are still getting the effects of the precursers, only because i have this feeling that there is a loop that happens with our own bodies in reaction to wearing them.  
i actually feel that my body makes more/less pheromones in response to wearing additional pheromones, because i do get all worked up .  
i _will even_ go so far as to say i have conditioned my body to react to JUST the neroli scent comming from the bottles at this point in anticipation of those feelings, and no this wasnt present in the beginning.

i dont buy into the preconcieved notions thing for ME,  
im real good (maybe too skeptical) at putting out of my head what the stuff is _supposed_ to do.  
especially with the experimental stuff,_we just dont know yet_.

quick question, though-  
can you tell me where you found this information?

> [@](#):
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> And to date scientist have found 25 diffrent human pheromones and a few of them are actually sex pheromones. But they are tight lipped about which ones they are and it was also said that it would only be marketed as some sort of sex drug for people with low sex drives

also, when you said

> [@](#):
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> But i do know it’s not androstenol, androstenone, or androsterone. as these are the later developed pheromones that are on the skin as such after they have gone thru the last phase of process from inside the body.

i have to wonder where your clever little head is going, because if these are present as the LAST phase,isnt it the last phase that is reaching our noses?  
regardless of what you put in your body, isnt it what comes out as the last phase that pheromone usage is all about?  
or are you considering a internal suppliment?  
maybe i misunderstood, but its only because i am interested! 🙂

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**Author:** ![lovinthang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@lovinthang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lovinthang)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/15 "2007-02-17T17:22:09Z")

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Well it has always been said that men and **pigs** produce **androstenone.** But what is **actually produced in women at High amounts**? Below listed is the three steroids women produce sexually from highest to lowest o.k.

1. estradiol
2. estrone
3. estriol

not photoestrogens but what a healthy woman in her reproduction years makes. look atthe article on .

[e.hormone.com](http://e.hormone.com) this will give you a better sense of what i’m talking about.

i will have to find the address of the next article for you. i’m looking now .  
so give me 30mins to an hour.

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**Author:** ![lovinthang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9a28c/32.png) [@lovinthang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lovinthang)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2007, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/16 "2007-02-17T18:30:37Z")

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ok found the website to the other article

‘+’ ([http://utenti.lycos.it/bodylang/odori/](http://utenti.lycos.it/bodylang/odori/))

fiora fragrance website.

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**Author:** ![chirimoya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chirimoya/32/1538_2.png) [@chirimoya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chirimoya)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/17 "2007-02-20T15:07:22Z")

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> [@The\_Dutchess](#):
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> Actually I’ve read this is a trick that women have used for centuries. It is said that Cleopatra herself did so regularly. If I’m not mistaken it is a trick that is not uncommon even today in some European countries. Considering it’s history, even among the nobility, it’s nothing to feel funny about. 🙂

I did this with my BF this weekend. He didn’t know I did it, but I applied some to myself in a place I thought his nose would come in contact with, and I had a little left on my finger that definitely came in close contact with his face/nose. It seemed to have some effect. He was much quicker to move from foreplay into sex than usual.

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**Author:** ![chirimoya](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chirimoya/32/1538_2.png) [@chirimoya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chirimoya)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/18 "2007-02-20T15:09:01Z")

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> [@Lor](#):
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> when you go to the smartmones store, they offer bottles of only pheromones individually, not in a mix. that is considered raw pheromones (although you can find them dry, in different bases,ect).  
> my advice is to stick with these offered _only_ because we know that the products here have been consistant.  
> the strength is consistant  
> the quality is consistant  
> the doses are consistant
> 
> now you can find them other places and in different mediums,  
> let me know what you decide and if you find anything good!  
> im reluctant to experiment on quality atleast until funds recupe 🙄

Thanks for the info Lor. I am still getting used to the mixes and still learning to notice differences in my own mood/behavior and those around me. I believe that with more experience, one probably becomes better at detecting changes and can more accurately predict how a certain molecule or mix may perform in certain circumstances.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-make-women-competeious/2053/19 "2007-02-20T15:14:28Z")

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> [@chirimoya](#):
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> I did this with my BF this weekend. He didn’t know I did it, but I applied some to myself in a place I thought his nose would come in contact with, and I had a little left on my finger that definitely came in close contact with his face/nose. It seemed to have some effect. He was much quicker to move from foreplay into sex than usual.

its better than synthetic, my opinion.
