# Copulins: what to pair them with for social proof, and is current EoW weaker? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 8, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799 "2009-05-08T21:32:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/1 "2009-05-08T21:32:15Z")
After experiencing the massive social proof copulins give, I am now a permanent fan. But some questions 1. What would copulins go best with? For the most efficient and strongest social proof? Ammo, IG, or IS ? I’d like to use cops without all that -none in IJ, although I’ll still be using Jerk too 2. Is this CURRENT Essence of a Woman a weaker version than they put out years back? And if so, how much drops to a bottle of the aforementioned Consumer Products, to keep the effects but ADD social proof? 3. If I wear 1-2 drops EoW straight, will it even be worth it? _Don’t oil based products take 20 minutes to even effect those around you_?, am I better off diluting it in one of the aforementioned Consumer Products and spraying? Ah, but then it wouldn’t last 12 hours ;( Damn. ---
**Author:** ![pyot67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@pyot67](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pyot67)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/2 "2009-05-08T22:02:03Z")
wait.. what? ur going to wear a girl product? ---
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/3 "2009-05-08T22:13:39Z")
Bro, do a search on copulins. It gives you a shitload of social proof Look forward to my report today, 😛 You didn’t know IJ had copulins in it?? ---
**Author:** ![pyot67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@pyot67](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pyot67)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/4 "2009-05-08T22:15:49Z")
> [@young beast](#): > > bro, do a search on copulins. It gives you a shitload of social proof > > look forward to my report today, 😛 > > you didn’t know ij had copulins in it?? no? Bro make your report already, im like dying over here lol ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/5 "2009-05-08T22:20:59Z")
> [@pyot67](#): > > wait.. what? ur going to wear a girl product? The female products such as EOW has copulins in them which is very effective in attracting women in general and, as catlord has mentioned, is great for attracting male and female bisexuals. Often men use copulins, and other feminine pheros, with their masculine mixes to boost female attention.. copulins can be used without masculine pheros, but I’m not sure how effectively, others will have to comment on that. Copulins specifically conveys the message, subconsciously, that you have had sex with other\multiple women; therefore, in a psychological standpoint, you must be an attractive male, because other females are all over you 😛 Dominick ---
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/6 "2009-05-08T23:08:47Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > The female products such as EOW has copulins in them which is very effective in attracting women in general and, as catlord has mentioned, is great for attracting male and female bisexuals. Often men use copulins, and other feminine pheros, with their masculine mixes to boost female attention.. copulins can be used without masculine pheros, but I’m not sure how effectively, others will have to comment on that. > > Copulins specifically conveys the message, subconsciously, that you have had sex with other\multiple women; therefore, in a psychological standpoint, you must be an attractive male, because other females are all over you 😛 > > Dominick Exactly. It gives you the lady’s man vibe because Copulins are naturally secreted by women during sex. That’s why you can instantly sense when dudes screw a lot, or if they just have. You ever hear a woman say to her BF or husband, “You cheated, I smell another woman on you!!” That’s Copulins. Still waiting on some answers/help for the mix though??! Lol ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/7 "2009-05-08T23:09:43Z")
> [@](#): > > After experiencing the massive social proof copulins give, I am now a permanent fan. But some questions > > 1. What would copulins go best with? For the most efficient and strongest social proof? > Ammo, IG, or IS ? I’d like to use cops without all that -none in IJ, although > I’ll still be using Jerk too Copulins go best with different tings depending on the specific type of copulins, your age and personal [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) signature, your body language and attitude, what copulins formula you use and how much you wear. I suggest pairing it with IO/IH/IS/IFM/enone/arone. Not necessarily all at once. Ammo should be good, dunno about IG. > [@](#): > > 1. Is this CURRENT Essence of a Woman a weaker version than they put out years back? And if so, how much drops to a bottle of the aforementioned Consumer Products, to keep the effects but ADD social proof? The EOW from as little as a few months back is the weaker version. However, I am told that the latest version has been returned to super-stanky strength, which is much more concentrated. > [@](#): > > 1. If I wear 1-2 drops EoW straight, will it even be worth it? _Don’t oil based products take 20 minutes to even effect those around you_?, am I better off diluting it in one of the aforementioned Consumer Products and spraying? Ah, but then it wouldn’t last 12 hours ;( Damn. If you wear 1-2 drops of EOW straight, even if you get the weaker version I have, you’ll be getting hit on by bisexual men and women left and right, hetero women will treat you like a woman, and hetero men will be much more likely to beat your ass for making them feel insecure about their sexuality because suddenly they want to f\*\*\* you. You want to use between 1/180th and 1/45th of a drop of EOW for social proof. That works out to between 1 and 3 drops of EOW per ounce of perfumer’s alcohol. Same dose for Androtics “industrial strength” cops, probably, too… although I don’t think that is available just yet. EOW is alcohol based, in every bottle I have ever had. But it’ll definitely last 12 hours + regardless if you wear that much. ---
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/8 "2009-05-08T23:12:42Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > If you wear 1-2 drops of EOW straight, even if you get the weaker version I have, you’ll be getting hit on by bisexual men and women left and right, hetero women will treat you like a woman, and hetero men will be much more likely to beat your ass for making them feel insecure about their sexuality because suddenly they want to f\*\*\* you. > > You want to use between 1/180th and 1/45th of a drop of EOW for social proof. Same dose for Androtics “industrial strength” cops, probably, too… although I don’t think that is available just yet. Wait WHAT? LOL, I heard much differently. I’m not talking about applying straight up bro, I’m talking about physically mixing it in with other Consumer Products, such as [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). I’ve read recent posts that said 2-3 drops per 30ml bottle. The thing is, I’ve also heard that EoW has gotten much weaker. That’s the main point of this thread, is to figure out the new dosage of drops of EoW per 30ml bottle ---
**Author:** ![pyot67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@pyot67](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pyot67)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/9 "2009-05-08T23:14:22Z")
> [@young beast](#): > > after experiencing the massive social proof copulins give, i am now a permanent fan. But some questions > > 1. What would copulins go best with? For the most efficient and strongest social proof? > Ammo, ig, or is ? I’d like to use cops without all that -none in ij, although > i’ll still be using jerk too > > 2. Is this current essence of a woman a weaker version than they put out years back? And if so, how much drops to a bottle of the aforementioned consumer products, to keep the effects but add social proof? > > 3. If i wear 1-2 drops eow straight, will it even be worth it? _don’t oil based products take 20 minutes to even effect those around you_?, am i better off diluting it in one of the aforementioned consumer products and spraying? Ah, but then it wouldn’t last 12 hours ;( damn. post your results already with ij !!! ---
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/10 "2009-05-08T23:16:33Z")
K pyot, I’ll get right to it Catlord, I cannot thank you enough! > [@catlord17](#): > > Copulins go best with different tings depending on the specific type of copulins, your age and personal pheromone signature, your body language and attitude, what copulins formula you use and how much you wear. > > I suggest pairing it with IO/IH/IS/IFM/enone/arone. Not necessarily all at once. Ammo should be good, dunno about IG. > > The EOW from as little as a few months back is the weaker version. However, I am told that the latest version has been returned to super-stanky strength, which is much more concentrated. So I’m guessing -none with cops would be more sexual than cops with arone, but yet still not OD and more relaxed? And arone with cops would be more of a respectful vibe, plus the “I have a crush on him” of the arone? Mixed with the social proof of the cops, arone seems to be the strongest for social proof right? So why not arone? Nevertheless, I DID have amazing results today with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) + IJ, something I hope to replicate with just Ammo/IG + Cops. > [@catlord17](#): > > If you wear 1-2 drops of EOW straight, even if you get the weaker version I have, you’ll be getting hit on by bisexual men and women left and right, hetero women will treat you like a woman, and hetero men will be much more likely to beat your ass for making them feel insecure about their sexuality because suddenly they want to f\*\*\* you. > > You want to use between 1/180th and 1/45th of a drop of EOW for social proof. That works out to between 1 and 3 drops of EOW per ounce of perfumer’s alcohol. Same dose for Androtics “industrial strength” cops, probably, too… although I don’t think that is available just yet. EOW is alcohol based, in every bottle I have ever had. But it’ll definitely last 12 hours + regardless if you wear that much. Ahh based on what you just said I will definitely not use it straight LOL. Guess it’s better anyway, as adding it to a mix equates to a CRAPLOAD of cops left for me to play with 😛 I think I’m going to stock on 3-4 bottles just in case love-scent goes out of biz. Actually, I’ll probably buy one bottle of EoW as Androtic’s version might be of better quality. (NO DISRESPECT TO LOVE-SCENT!) And yeah I was recently reading up on how cops intensified throughout the day. JUST what I need, an all day social proof mix. Let’s see, school starts at 7:45, ends at 3:10. We all chill until about 4:00 P.M. PERFECT. Gives me hours to spare, in case I’m going out to eat with some friends right after school. GOD I am so giddy now. Once again, thanks so much bro! Reports to come very soon! ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/11 "2009-05-08T23:21:01Z")
Oh, my, I got negative rep for my above comment… which doesn’t make much sense to me. ☹ Can said person elaborate why?, because it is a little too finite to me. Here it is… “Wrong. Copulins on WOMEN attract MEN. Copulins on men CAN give siocial-proof which is ONLY attrctive to SOME women - yes mainly bisexual. Not all women like Players - at all.” Were’s the love?, Dominick ---
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/12 "2009-05-08T23:33:37Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > Oh, my, I got negative rep for my above comment… which doesn’t make much sense to me. ☹ > > Can said person elaborate why?, because it is a little too finite to me. > > Here it is… “Wrong. Copulins on WOMEN attract MEN. Copulins on men CAN give siocial-proof which is ONLY attrctive to SOME women - yes mainly bisexual. Not all women like Players - at all.” > > Were’s the love?, > Dominick What the hell, whoever did this is an ass, period. Not fessing up to it makes them even more of a loser. God, way to kill the mood Don’t worry bro, misinformed people always try to spout their bull “knowledge” in attempts to make themselves more secure. Forget them ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/13 "2009-05-08T23:34:30Z")
Yeah, don’t want to wear EOW straight after what cat said. _Shivers._ ---
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/14 "2009-05-08T23:35:06Z")
Oh, and the new EoW is stronger? Even better than last year-2 years ago? YESSS _EDIT:_ oh, and catlord I replied to your great post , it’s on the first page, in case you don’t get to see it since we’re on the 2nd page of this thread already. Thiis is extremely interesting/amazing. _EDIT 2:_ I’m actually now seeing your reasoning behind why Ammo would be better with cops. Hell, it’s basically a better version of Instant jerk. Much better. **IJ :** Too much -none(not really too much, but not the right amount as it does rub some girls the wrong way), good amounts of cops for social proof **Ammo + 2 drops EoW :** Right amount of -none for me(yep, you heard right. I’m 16, but my body chemistry goes GREAT with Ammo. Read about it in my new journal update 😛) good amount of cops for social proof, PLUS Ammo already comes with a good amount Alpha Androstenol for talkativeness PLUS just the right amount of androsterone for that RESPECT. Ammo + 2 drops of EoW . 1-2 sprays. = my new daily school mix. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/15 "2009-05-09T00:32:32Z")
The best social proof depends on too many variables to say androstenone, androsterone, IS, IO, or IFM. It’s not that simple. As for stocking up… if you do, keep in mind that EOW melts rubber. I usually have to buy a new bottle every 12 to 18 months because the bottle no longer has rubber… it melts. So since LS is a successful business, I don’t think you’ll need to stock up. Just remember that at social proof strength, it’s a subtle effect. > [@Young\_Beast](#): > > K pyot, I’ll get right to it > > Catlord, I cannot thank you enough! > > So I’m guessing -none with cops would be more sexual than cops with arone, but yet still not OD and more relaxed? > And arone with cops would be more of a respectful vibe, plus the “I have a crush on him” of the arone? Mixed with the social proof of the cops, arone seems to be the strongest for social proof right? So why not arone? Nevertheless, I DID have amazing results today with Ammo + IJ, something I hope to replicate with just Ammo/IG + Cops. > > Ahh based on what you just said I will definitely not use it straight LOL. Guess it’s better anyway, as adding it to a mix equates to a CRAPLOAD of cops left for me to play with 😛 I think I’m going to stock on 3-4 bottles just in case love-scent goes out of biz. Actually, I’ll probably buy one bottle of EoW as Androtic’s version might be of better quality. (NO DISRESPECT TO LOVE-SCENT!) > > And yeah I was recently reading up on how cops intensified throughout the day. JUST what I need, an all day social proof mix. Let’s see, school starts at 7:45, ends at 3:10. We all chill until about 4:00 P.M. PERFECT. Gives me hours to spare, in case I’m going out to eat with some friends right after school. GOD I am so giddy now. > > Once again, thanks so much bro! Reports to come very soon! ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/16 "2009-05-09T00:34:49Z")
> [@Young\_Beast](#): > > Oh, and the new EoW is stronger? Even better than last year-2 years ago? YESSS > > _EDIT:_ oh, and catlord I replied to your great post , it’s on the first page, in case you don’t get to see it since we’re on the 2nd page of this thread already. Thiis is extremely interesting/amazing. > > _EDIT 2:_ I’m actually now seeing your reasoning behind why Ammo would be better with cops. Hell, it’s basically a better version of Instant jerk. Much better. > > **IJ :** Too much -none(not really too much, but not the right amount as it does rub some girls the wrong way), good amounts of cops for social proof > > **Ammo + 2 drops EoW :** Right amount of -none for me(yep, you heard right. I’m 16, but my body chemistry goes GREAT with Ammo. Read about it in my new journal update 😛) good amount of cops for social proof, PLUS Ammo already comes with a good amount Alpha Androstenol for talkativeness PLUS just the right amount of androsterone for that RESPECT. > > Ammo + 2 drops of EoW . 1-2 sprays. = my new daily school mix. I hope you are talking 1-2 drops per ounce… not straight… lol ---
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/17 "2009-05-09T00:40:50Z")
Yeah of course man lol And what I witnessed today was not that subtle? Really blatant stuff when I added the Jerk in. Easy respect/social proof and very obvious. No disrespect from anyone at all. Ppl holding the door more open than usual etc. A girl gave me two things of hers today(a cookie and gatorade LOL)(more in my journal soon) which is pretty weird for her So is the social proof gonna be less like what I just described above? If so, I might go 4 drops of EoW in Ammo. I want it to be as blatant as today, every day, resulting in my image becoming that. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/18 "2009-05-09T00:42:42Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > Oh, my, I got negative rep for my above comment… which doesn’t make much sense to me. ☹ > > Can said person elaborate why?, because it is a little too finite to me. > > Here it is… “Wrong. Copulins on WOMEN attract MEN. Copulins on men CAN give siocial-proof which is ONLY attrctive to SOME women - yes mainly bisexual. Not all women like Players - at all.” > > Were’s the love?, > Dominick For both parties, I’d like to clarify that “player” is not the vibe you get from wearing copulins as a man. The point of wearing copulins at social proof strength is to evidence oneself as a man who is scent marked by a female, which indicates he is sexually active. Some heterosexual women find this attractive and some find it repulsive. I theorize that those who find it attractive find it so because “if he’s getting sex from another woman, he must be good enough for me” - and/or, some women (yes, even some heteros) find the sexual scent of a woman sexually arousing. Those who are repelled will be repelled because this indicates that this man is “spoken for”. “Player” has nothing to do with it. Just because a man is having sex and is still receptive to female attention doesn’t make him a player. And by the way… negative reps are not called for. If you have something to say in disagreement, say it on the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/19 "2009-05-09T01:07:16Z")
Bro you got anything to say to my above post? Will it be so subtle compared to my IJ experience that I should just stick to Jerk or forget it? ---
**Author:** ![pyot67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/439d5e/32.png) [@pyot67](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pyot67)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2009, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/20 "2009-05-09T01:39:42Z")
> [@Young\_Beast](#): > > Bro you got anything to say to my above post? Will it be so subtle compared to my IJ experience that I should just stick to Jerk or forget it? i think u should tell me wth ur talking about! COPULINS?? i understand what it is…but…how would u even add it to a mix??? and why need it if other products have it? AND should i get [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), or Instant Jerk, or both? and i heard u used ammo and it worked for you??? PLEASE FILL ME IN ON YOUR RESULTS AND WHATS GOING ON 😕 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799.md?page=2)