# Copulins: what to pair them with for social proof, and is current EoW weaker? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 8, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799 "2009-05-08T21:32:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/43 "2009-05-15T16:32:06Z")
I dont mean to hi-jack here but, Catlord, can you detect if a mix has cops in it? In other words could you smell it if it was in a mix or something? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/44 "2009-05-16T02:02:27Z")
> [@pupy](#): > > I skim-read a bunch of this thread so if I’m stating completely obvious points of saying something that’s been said before, sorry. > > Copulins _ **on a guy** _ I would assume should bring about the desired effect **only** if your personality already fits the chemical message being sent. For example, if you’re the guy who people never exchange sex stories with because they assume you’re already more “experienced” than they are and they don’t want to appear immature in front of you, then copulins will definitely enhance that image. But if you’re the guy who’s using pheros to get out there and be more adventurous (basically, change your whole persona), then copulins will more likely than not spoil things for you. > > And like mahalo silver suggested, it also depends on the location you’re using them. If you’re surrounding yourself with highly conservative girls, copulins aren’t going to help you unless you know that a rebel is going to be found as highly desirable. > > Same time, I have a question for Young Beast! and catlord17… if you were to wear copulins around a (girl) friend, what’s the general reaction? I mean, wearing none might come on as quite aggressive, where as copulins might (at least in my mind) set her at ease because she doesn’t feel like she’s a target anymore. Am I right? My ex was quickly aroused when I wore SP cops. She became aroused when I wore full strength cops at 1-2 drops of EOW, too. My previous ex, runs for the hills even if it’s at SP strength. It does not set a woman at ease to smell cops on a man unless he wears enough that she thinks he’s female at the subconscious level. If a woman feels like she is a “target”, she isn’t likely to stick around long regardless, in my experience. Go back and read. Too much I’m not willing to repeat myself on. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/45 "2009-05-16T02:03:56Z")
> [@jessejester](#): > > I dont mean to hi-jack here but, Catlord, can you detect if a mix has cops in it? In other words could you smell it if it was in a mix or something? No. I cannot smell it, even in things like [Lust After Me](https://phera.com/product/lust-after-me/), unless it is VERY strong and using Essence of Woman. I can smell it at strengths no man would wear if he was sane. Social proof cops should not be consciously detectable - by men, at least. Can’t speak for the super sniffers on women. ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/46 "2009-05-16T02:40:30Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Gentlemen, copulins is a very subtle effect on a man. Overdoing it is not good. You don’t need copulins. They act as a small enhancement. This is getting blown out of proportion. > [@pyot67](#): > > LOL discussion ends here? That was a week ago. You guys really don’t get the message do you? > [@catlord17](#): > > … > Go back and read. Too much I’m not willing to repeat myself on. And if you have questions after you’ve gone back and read this again, you should try _a search._ You should have done both of those _before_ wearing massive quantities of [female pheromones](https://phera.com/). OoohYahhh ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/47 "2009-05-18T01:56:03Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > No. I cannot smell it, even in things like Lust After Me, unless it is VERY strong and using Essence of Woman. I can smell it at strengths no man would wear if he was sane. > > Social proof cops should not be consciously detectable - by men, at least. Can’t speak for the super sniffers on women. hey catlord, you use 8 drops of EW to 1 ounce of water for your mix? ---
**Author:** ![Young\_Beast](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/young_beast/32/2178_2.png) [@Young\_Beast](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Young_Beast)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/48 "2009-05-18T18:55:07Z")
The dilution method has been discussed as well man.. ---
**Author:** ![jlynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/977dab/32.png) [@jlynn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jlynn)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/49 "2009-06-11T00:59:21Z")
You want to use between 1/180th and 1/45th of a drop of EOW for social proof. That works out to between 1 and 3 drops of EOW per ounce of perfumer’s alcohol. Same dose for Androtics “industrial strength” cops, probably, too… although I don’t think that is available just yet. EOW is alcohol based, in every bottle I have ever had. But it’ll definitely last 12 hours + regardless if you wear that much. Will the EOW make the perfume smell bad? Can EOW be added to cheap perfume? Do we need to get the perfume they sell at this forums store? If so which would be good to add EOW. Also what about PCC? ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/50 "2009-06-11T03:53:26Z")
> [@jlynn](#): > > You want to use between 1/180th and 1/45th of a drop of EOW for social proof. That works out to between 1 and 3 drops of EOW per ounce of perfumer’s alcohol. Same dose for Androtics “industrial strength” cops, probably, too… although I don’t think that is available just yet. EOW is alcohol based, in every bottle I have ever had. But it’ll definitely last 12 hours + regardless if you wear that much. Will the EOW make the perfume smell bad? Can EOW be added to cheap perfume? Do we need to get the perfume they sell at this forums store? If so which would be good to add EOW. Also what about PCC? u don’t need any of that fancy stuff. just go get you a sprayer from any drug store, spray your perfume in it then drop the eow in. as far as the smell, my cologne does smell a lil different but i’m superconcentrating it at 8 drops per ounce ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/51 "2009-06-11T04:35:26Z")
EoW is funny, guys. it has a sense of humor. over the years i have added EoW to many a scent, just to toss it away and try again and lately i just dont have that kind of money 😃 you will eventually find out that using a Qtip to add the slightest nano-drop to your skin and then waiting for it to dry proper and then covering it with a pleasant scent that melds with the EoW is going to be the best bet and cheapest route. most men i know give it up. most women i know learn it like a craft. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/52 "2009-06-11T14:58:47Z")
> [@meow333x](#): > > hey catlord, you use 8 drops of EW to 1 ounce of water for your mix? I thought I answered this somewhere… 8 drops in 1 ounce is good for bisexuals, which I happened to be pursuing at the time. Mixed with IH/IO/IS/IFM. And perfumer’s alcohol, not water. ---
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/53 "2009-06-11T15:32:57Z")
Point taken … thanks > [@Lor](#): > > EoW is funny, guys. > > it has a sense of humor. > > over the years i have added EoW to many a scent, > just to toss it away and try again > and lately > i just dont have that kind of money 😃 > > you will eventually find out > that using a Qtip to add the slightest nano-drop to your skin > and then waiting for it to dry proper > and then covering it with a pleasant scent that melds with the EoW > is going to be the best bet > and cheapest route. > > most men i know give it up. > most women i know learn it like a craft. ---
**Author:** ![jlynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/977dab/32.png) [@jlynn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jlynn)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/54 "2009-06-11T17:05:21Z")
you will eventually find out that using a Qtip to add the slightest nano-drop to your skin and then waiting for it to dry proper and then covering it with a pleasant scent that melds with the EoW is going to be the best bet and cheapest route. Lor, I was thinking about doing the q-tip also. Also read on another forum where someone said to add this to distilled water 1 GALLON at that and a drop or 2 of eow to make a mist. Is this stuff THAT strong? Do you know anyone that has made it that diluted and it still work? Also do you have any info on a product called Temptress or Conquest or even PCC ? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/55 "2009-06-11T17:19:01Z")
> [@jlynn](#): > > you will eventually find out > that using a Qtip to add the slightest nano-drop to your skin > and then waiting for it to dry proper > and then covering it with a pleasant scent that melds with the EoW > is going to be the best bet > and cheapest route. > > Lor, > I was thinking about doing the q-tip also. Also read on another forum where someone said to add this to distilled water 1 GALLON at that and a drop or 2 of eow to make a mist. Is this stuff THAT strong? Do you know anyone that has made it that diluted and it still work? Also do you have any info on a product called Temptress or Conquest or even PCC ? you dont hear much about those other products because the reactions arent overwhelming, assuming they are even there. i would do a search on them. far be it from me to turn anyone away from a product that might be the new upcomming thing… but if they have been around for a while, chances are they havent wowwed anyone. PCC was dissapointing, i have tried that. adding EoW to water was never my thing, so i cannot comment in depth on it. yes, i have tried it, but i ended up throwing it out. got weird after a few days. theres nothing like applying it straight and watching what happens. its funny, i remember being horrendously self-conscious until i began having real good reaction to it. keep in mind i didnt wear it in large amounts,either. but when you see positive results, the worry fades out. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/56 "2009-06-11T20:17:45Z")
Hey Lor, so would a guy be able to pull off applying a VERY tiny drop of EOW by q-tip application? If so, let me know as this sounds very interesting and less tedious. However, if the safer route is mixing it with PA then that’s fine too. Just curious if a guy can pull that off without coming off too feminine or if the smell could be easily covered if applied directly on skin. > [@Lor](#): > > you dont hear much about those other products > because the reactions arent overwhelming, assuming they are even there. > > i would do a search on them. > > far be it from me > to turn anyone away from a product that might be > the new upcomming thing… > but if they have been around for a while, chances are they havent wowwed anyone. > PCC was dissapointing, i have tried that. > > adding EoW to water was never my thing, so i cannot comment in depth on it. > yes, i have tried it, > but i ended up throwing it out. > got weird after a few days. > > theres nothing like applying it straight > and watching what happens. > > its funny, > i remember being horrendously self-conscious > until i began having real good reaction to it. > keep in mind i didnt wear it in large amounts,either. > > but when you see positive results, the worry fades out. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/57 "2009-06-11T22:40:59Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Hey Lor, so would a guy be able to pull off applying a VERY tiny drop of EOW by q-tip application? If so, let me know as this sounds very interesting and less tedious. However, if the safer route is mixing it with PA then that’s fine too. Just curious if a guy can pull that off without coming off too feminine or if the smell could be easily covered if applied directly on skin. you don’t need PA just use any cologne you want and drop it in. that’s what i do and it works great. as far as being feminine it has the offosite effect on me. it actually makes me more alpha ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/58 "2009-06-11T22:53:02Z")
Of course, cologne obviously has PA in it. I meant directly on skin. > [@meow333x](#): > > you don’t need PA just use any cologne you want and drop it in. that’s what i do and it works great. as far as being feminine it has the offosite effect on me. it actually makes me more alpha ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/59 "2009-06-12T01:30:00Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > Of course, cologne obviously has PA in it. I meant directly on skin. yeah i mean its definately worth a try, and if you like this app technique, you have just saved yourself a hassle and possibly good cologne ! you might not even need a full drop, you just shake the bottle with the lid on (😃🙄) and then gently swipe the Qtip over the top. your not getting a full drop, and placing it somewhere that is washed easily is prolly your best bet. when it is applied to cotton (Qtip) you have the advantage of being able to rub _just_ residue everywhere and anywhere you want without being overwhelming. its more specific of an application than cologne that is smeared or sprayed. this makes it easier to wash off, if for any reason you need to. everyone has a different way to do things, i like the way that is easily changed because there is no commitment to a mix this way. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/60 "2009-06-12T03:09:24Z")
Nice! Thanks love! > [@Lor](#): > > yeah i mean its definately worth a try, and if you like this app technique, you have just saved yourself a hassle and possibly good cologne ! > > you might not even need a full drop, > you just shake the bottle with the lid on (😃🙄) > and then gently swipe the Qtip over the top. > your not getting a full drop, > and placing it somewhere that is washed easily is prolly your best bet. > > when it is applied to cotton (Qtip) you have the advantage > of being able to rub _just_ residue everywhere and anywhere you want without being overwhelming. > > its more specific of an application than cologne that is smeared or sprayed. > this makes it easier to wash off, > if for any reason you need to. > > everyone has a different way to do things, > i like the way that is easily changed > because there is no commitment to a mix this way. > > 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/61 "2009-06-12T18:59:02Z")
I need to start doing copulins for men megadose testing just to show you what happens. Take one for the team, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799/62 "2009-06-12T21:35:14Z")
Indeed. Some of these kids seem to want to jump the horse on the whole cop thing. However, I’m hoping that they do have some knowledge as some mentioned having regarding its usage on men. Wouldn’t want some being deemed to “feminine” or something. > [@catlord17](#): > > I need to start doing copulins for men megadose testing just to show you what happens. Take one for the team, indeed. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins-what-to-pair-them-with-for-social-proof-and-is-current-eow-weaker/28799.md?page=4)