# Crashing a few hours after 100 to 150 mcg of Meo-Est: anyone else? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 2, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/crashing-a-few-hours-after-100-to-150-mcg-of-meo-est-anyone-else/38262 "2010-05-02T05:25:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![apexi1100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@apexi1100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/apexi1100)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/crashing-a-few-hours-after-100-to-150-mcg-of-meo-est-anyone-else/38262/1 "2010-05-02T05:25:41Z")
I just got mine, and jumped right in using approx. 150mcgs to start with. Has anyone who has done that experienced a crash after a couple of hours applying meo-est? It happened the first night I used it, granted I used a large dose. It sort of happened tonight with around 100mcgs. I’ve had some interesting hits from it though. More to come. Insight to the question? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![apexi1100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@apexi1100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/apexi1100)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/crashing-a-few-hours-after-100-to-150-mcg-of-meo-est-anyone-else/38262/2 "2010-05-04T00:45:45Z")
Well here are my experiences with Meo-est. I will be testing it by itself this coming weekend, however when I got it I wanted to jump right into a mix. **The first experience:** **Products:** approx 125mcgs of meo-est 2 drops of A314 **Self Effects:** When I first applied I didn’t really notice anything till I met up with a friend S to eat dinner. After awhile, I just felt like i was the man because of the effects on others, more on that later.’ **Effects on others:** I was meeting my friend S at a restaurant. I was there first and saw a really cute hostess. S walked in almost immediately after me so I didn’t really get a chance to flirt, however she seemed a little nervous. She must be between 17-19 years old, most likely Hispanic or Caucasian. She seats us and our waiter, prob mid 20’s, African American seems to give me more attention than my friend S. Now, keep in mind that S is on the rag and is feeling depressed before we meet. Now that we have sat down, her mood is lifted and she is smiling and having a good time. So meo-est can help moods with girls on the rag? Well, as dinner progressed, the hostess passes by a couple of times and I catch her looking at me. Not just a glance, but almost a hard stare that she tried to play off. One time she passes though, I said something to either our waiter or S and the hostess turns and looks straight at me almost like she was hoping I was talking to her. She did keep passing me to go to the kitchen or wherever she was going. Now to S, she was depressed when we first met up. But like I said her mood was lifted. It turned from a serious to playful meet up. I was expecting to talk about her ex because she had just recently gone through a breakup. But instead, we just start talking about him and it wasn’t serious. it was interesting. Not the kind of things I would expect out of S. As dinner winded down, I get up from the table and I notice a whole table just staring at me. I couldn’t really tell what kind of stare it was, but they were staring. So we walk out and go back to my place to play rock band and laugh the rest of the night. However this is where I experienced a major crash. This was probably a good 2 to 2.5 hrs after application. I just started dozing off while playing rock band which is rare and I never do. Then she left and I immediately went to bed. I did notice that I had a very vivid dream that was odd. I have read some instances where meo-est can give you interesting dreams. I used meo-est with 2 sprays of AMMO, the next day, but I honestly don’t remember what happened that day. If I remember I’ll post more…😕 ---
**Author:** ![apexi1100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@apexi1100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/apexi1100)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 1:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/crashing-a-few-hours-after-100-to-150-mcg-of-meo-est-anyone-else/38262/3 "2010-05-04T01:16:21Z")
Ok, for some reason, I just couldn’t remember the next day, but I just did. Must be the recovery from the crashes I experienced. Here it is: **The 2nd Experience:** **Products:** 2 sprays of AMMO (World Edition) 150mcgs of Meo-Est **Self Effects:** I noticed that i felt like the man. I felt like everyone just gave me respect. I felt relaxed as well, as in I didn’t really care much about getting started on time. **Effects on Others:** The venue was my boss’ house. She was having a house warming party and I was asked to play a gig there. I sprayed on about 10 minutes before I arrive. I first notice that the [World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/) AMMO is pretty strong smelling. Kind of floral maybe?😕 Well, I arrive at the house and her husband and 3 boys help me to unload the equipment. We get all of it out and I start to set up. I couldn’t help but notice that they all kept asking if I needed any help. Even after I told them that I was ok. The husband is prob mid to late 30’s African American and the boys ages ranged from 12-15. Well, I start to play and people are coming in. Nothing noticed at this point. So my boss, around 36, African American, calls everyone for prayer to bless the house. She can’t seem to stop edifying me for playing there that day. So i go eat then start to play again. Well, by this time people are sitting listening to me instead of mingling and looking at the house. Well I take several breaks because of what happened the day before, I was kind of tired, and having a hard time playing. I have played for 4-6 hour gigs before and this one was only 3. And I had to break in the first hour. During the break, I see all my co-workers. I didn’t really notice much, but I might have been focused on playing. Most of the people that came were older though, between mid 30’s and up. I did notice though, that anyone that came around me had a smile on their face and seemed to feel relaxed. I sat down next to a co-worker and started talking to her. She is my age, I think 28, also African American. She seemed a little more relaxed while talking to me and was keeping good eye contact, not something that I have noticed with her before. We started talking a little about music and the conversation just flowed really well. S calls and she is lost. So I am trying to give her directions and she drives into a ditch. So I am talking to her and she is really flustered. Well, she arrives, and as soon as she is around me, she is relaxed, like nothing happened. Well I play some more and see some more co-workers. I didn’t really notice any more hits. However, there are hits that I didn’t notice. More on that later. Well, I go home for awhile and relax. I was supposed to meet my parents but they cancel so I call S to hang out. She arrives at my place; I refreshed with 50 mcgs of meo-est and 1 AMMO (WE). This was about 4 hours after the event had ended. So it was about 8 hours after the first application. Well, we order pizza while we wait for another friend B, but B is a male, most likely gay. I wonder if the meo-est had the crashing effect on S because while waiting for pizza and playing video games, we both just knock out on my couch until my phone rings. Well, we go out to do some hookah when B arrives. I did not refresh before we leave. We arrive at the the hookah bar and I get up to use the restroom. There was a new waitress there. Probably early to mid 20’s. Really couldn’t tell what her ethnicity was, but its a Mediterranean joint so she might have been from there. Well, I walk past her and get a DIHL. I mean it is a straight up stare. That’s about the extent of the rest of the night other than the fact that I think our waiter slipped some “other stuff” in the hookah and things got interesting. Well those are my experiences with meo-est thus far. I will be posting more on testing, but not till the weekend so I can get a break from mones for the week. I’m just glad I remembered what happened. The temporary loss of memory could have been because of the “extra stuff” in the hookah 😛 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/crashing-a-few-hours-after-100-to-150-mcg-of-meo-est-anyone-else/38262/4 "2010-05-04T03:33:04Z")
MEO-EST is pretty pricey from what I see, is it only effective in such high doses? I’ve been looking for a female mood lifter/relaxant along the lines of A1 and what I’ve read about MEO-EST sounds like it’s the next best thing but at that price I’d hope it be effective in lower 5-15 mcg doses. ---
**Author:** ![apexi1100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e68b1a/32.png) [@apexi1100](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/apexi1100)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/crashing-a-few-hours-after-100-to-150-mcg-of-meo-est-anyone-else/38262/5 "2010-05-05T03:35:39Z")
Not sure. What I have read though is that it is very effective at the higher doses. Now that I kind of know the effects, I will be testing lower doses. I only got it because I had a lot of reward points in the store. Looks like it will have been worth using the points. I’ll chime back in here during the weekend when the testing will commence.